endlessmonotony posted:Organized religion has this whole problem with being unaccountable. I'm confused, are you for or against inherited wealth?
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sebzilla posted:Hot take: earnest wholehearted belief in a supernatural religion in 2020 is p. bonkers and lowers my opinion of the critical thinking abilities of anyone who announces their beliefs to me. Well, a wise man once told me I need to have faith, and I guess I do. In something supernatural? Eh, you figure it out. I won't bother. Can't agree with the way organized religion treats people who just want to be honest about themselves though. It's just easier to be who you are and not give half a poo poo if people disagree.
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sebzilla posted:Hot take: earnest wholehearted belief in a supernatural religion in 2020 is p. bonkers and lowers my opinion of the critical thinking abilities of anyone who announces their beliefs to me. Doesn't have to be a creator-god (I assume that's what you mean by actual God stuff, God in the monotheistic Abrahamic sense, that is omniscient yet also cares about the daily thoughts of adherents), it could also be belief in a way of life, like Stoicism or Confucianism, or belief in some unit greater than the self like society or the nation or the emperor. But everyone has to be on the same page about it for it to work, and anything that is bigger than the self starts sounding a bit supernatural, even some of the descriptions of what the worker should strive for as a communist. The polar opposite would be that town run by It all seems ridiculous to the secular liberal individualistic society, but then again liberalism ish alsho a ridiculous ideology.
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Gambrinus posted:Johnson and Hancock should be afraid to ever set foot in public again. Hope they get their food spat in. Hope someone takes a baseball bat to them. Cunts. I kind of get the weird admiration that certain people have for Boris given his image and his stunts, but Matt Hancock? Matt loving Hancock. The man who immediately exudes the most "I am a tedious and incompetent middle manager" energy of anyone on the planet? Any time anyone says anything flattering about him, even going back as far as the last election where it was plainly obvious who he is, deserves to be ridiculed, and more importantly, have their wallet inspected.
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Dec 31, 2020 20:41
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Goodbye 2020, a loving terrible year it has been. I moved for a new job right as this all kicked off, so I've spent 9 months alone stuck in an empty flat unable to get to know anyone and only seeimg new colleaguesrarely on video. And becausing of this loving governments incompetence I've got months of this this ahead.
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isabelle oakshot nuking the lib dem’s and then coming out as a right wing nutter is pretty funny
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Dec 31, 2020 20:46
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https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1344701745130254343 Email has now been published.
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Dec 31, 2020 20:51
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Can we assume it is more probable now that if you get infected, at least one or more of the chain of people that infected you just didn't give a gently caress and knew they had it but still went outside?
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happyhippy posted:Can we assume it is more probable now that if you get infected, at least one or more of the chain of people that infected you just didn't give a gently caress and knew they had it but still went outside? No? Remember, a significant proportion of infected are asymptomatic, some are presymtomatic, and others are economically unable to not leave their house due to employment. You're just channelling your hatred at the public over the government.
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Dec 31, 2020 21:30
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It would just seem sarcastic to wish anyone a happy new year atm imo but um... keep on truckin' everyone 
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Dec 31, 2020 21:35
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Good luck for 2021 goons. You’re some of the best people out there and this thread has always been a source of information, different perspectives, discussion, education and when it’s needed encouragement. Let’s try to keep hope. Under the prison, the beach!
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Dec 31, 2020 21:49
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a Happy Neutrally-Reported Brexmas to all
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Dec 31, 2020 21:50
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Oh is this that freedom yanks are always going on about. i don't like it
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At the start of 2020 I planned to get much more involved in local campaigns, volunteering etc. Ok, that didn't turn out so hot this year but in 2021...
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Jel Shaker posted:isabelle oakshot nuking the lib dem’s and then coming out as a right wing nutter is pretty funny Have you got the right witch? She's always been a right wing nutter. https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/mrc-gida/2020-12-31-COVID19-Report-42-Preprint-VOC.pdf Interest paper on the new variant: more transmissible and impacting the under 20s much more.
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Regarde Aduck posted:I can't actually listen to these dickheads anymore. I mean the scientists and experts. They are at best weak willed and unable to convince the people that matter and at worse actively stupid. Every crisis point, such as this, has just as many 'experts' argueing the exact opposite. Which means half of them are lying or wrong. There's been no consensus on anything. It's all hosed. This is not usually due to a lack of scientific consensus so much as most scientists not having a bigger public platform than their Twitter. See a much larger issue than covid - anthropogenic climate change. There has been a scientific consensus on the broad strokes of that for decades. If you read a paper on, for instance, Arctic ecology the opening paragraphs where they describe the context will be full of hair-raising, literal end-of-the-world facts that are completely established and accepted by the relevant scientific community. Yet even now when you get a distinguished professor on TV saying how hosed we are there has to be opposing them some crank paid to claim that Shell is a green company and everything is fine, for balance. No surprise then that people think there is ongoing uncertainty on the issue. I don't know much about virology or epidemiology, but I imagine that the public discourse is no less enthusiastically muddied there. Plus, unlike climate change, it is actually a pretty new phenomenon so there would inevitably be some disagreement even if everyone were acting in complete good faith. big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Dec 31, 2020 |
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Dec 31, 2020 22:19
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97 minutes until there needs to be someone who understands the deal and can implement it competently!
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Also an early happy new year to all you UKMT folk. Haven't been keeping up with the thread so much of late, but I hope you are all having a good one tonight despite the restrictions and wish you the very best in 2021.
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This will likely be the first of many complaints into the ether as the country falls apart but my hoover bag order got cancelled by the seller on eBay because she didn't know what would be happening with NI orders so I had to hoak out all the dust and cat hair from the used one into the bin in the wet and cold this afternoon getting all lungfulls of dust* going "arararagaghahh... uuuuugggghghghhhh" like that, with my eyes as closed as possible  still i'm sure 2021 is going to be great *i did put on a dust mask but still
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Apraxin posted:a Happy Neutrally-Reported Brexmas to all hehehehehe it's all just a bit of a laugh really https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55348994 
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Happy new year to all of you folks, and as vain as it might be, hoping that 2021 turns out better. In the same spirit as Eel Man from a few pages back, I had a hearty chuckle reading this news article from people in Kent who are utterly shocked that all the things "Project Fear" warned would happen, are in fact happening. https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/living-in-the-shadow-of-brexits-customs-clearance-sites-239412/ quote:Lorries will still be held on the Sevington plot if there is disruption at the ports Kent could get hit by a nuke and people would still be concerned about their house prices.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Kent could get hit by a nuke and people would still be concerned about their house prices. Yeah if The Way The Wind Blows came out today that couple would spend 95% of their time doomscrolling on Zoopla
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I'm all for Kent in particular getting hosed by brexit after voting for it lol
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Jose posted:I'm all for Kent in particular getting hosed by brexit after voting for it lol Britain's strategic piss reserve
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I’m worried the Kermit will spread and you’ll have to get a SUXMIT and a HAMMIT to move between counties.
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Brexit! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoKfjtNxjn0 But it's filled with bottles of piss instead.
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sebzilla posted:Hot take: earnest wholehearted belief in a supernatural religion in 2020 is p. bonkers and lowers my opinion of the critical thinking abilities of anyone who announces their beliefs to me. Hot take, anything that gives people some loving solace in our cruel late capitalist world is an entirely understandable thing to seek. I put my faith in the global victory of communism of some sort at some indeterminate time in the future because you loving need something more or it just gets too drat bleak
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Jose posted:I'm all for Kent in particular getting hosed by brexit after voting for it lol only benefit imo
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Feeling a bit more sovereign to be honest. Edit: Wait, that was gas.
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forkboy84 posted:Hot take, anything that gives people some loving solace in our cruel late capitalist world is an entirely understandable thing to seek. I put my faith in the global victory of communism of some sort at some indeterminate time in the future because you loving need something more or it just gets too drat bleak I just never understood how it’s any solace at all. “Ooh, I hope there’s a cosmic overlord who randomly kills people on a whim (and in our own mythology once literally murdered every human on Earth bar a single family he liked) and constantly watches and judges us under penalty of infinite torment if we don’t please him enough! It makes me feel so warm to think about it!”
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Good luck everyone, I wish you all a lovely new year
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Because it's not about the god, it's about the community. People feel good getting together and doing some ritual or other that makes them feel part of the same group. The worst people are the ones that take it either way too seriously, like those that demand that the earth must be 6,000 years old and flat, otherwise their god can't be real, but somehow ignore the bits about no public prayer and give all your poo poo to the poor, or the people that take it way too seriously in the other direction and say it's irrational. Oh also the people that use it as an excuse to nonce kids or do sectarian violence, they're terrible but just in general, not specifically because they're using cover of religion. It's made up, but so are nations and languages (and the people who take those far too seriously are usually bad too). We as a thing are defined by symbolism and nonsense, like this bunch of symbols that I just hammered out that only makes any loving sense because a bunch of us all agreed on what they mean. I have a little statue of Hestia on my mantel, any Greek or Roman of a certain era would recognize that instantly as something to protect the home and hearth, do I believe it stops the house from catching fire? No, but I know that's where statues of Hestia go, because people know that, even if it's there for a very different reason, to stop the Pope from entering my house through the chimney. Not happened once since I put it there.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1344781682537361417 are any of you feeling any different in the last 17 minutes? More sovereign perhaps?
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PawParole posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1344781682537361417 I feel very tired, whereas normally this time of night I'm wide awake and doing tweaky stuff on websites or spreadsheets. Still, I've managed to get to credit card debt zero for the start of the new year.
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It's funny to me that we can't even Brexit on UK time. It shows how much we're taking back control.
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My brother managed to get his eldest (adult) son's residency thing for France in with an hour to spare. (His younger kids have got French passports).
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Happy New Year UK goons. Thanks for being a good bunch and combining political education with crisps and other various chats. The Dutch ban on fireworks is going very well - the kitten's first experience and she's very confused and running around trying to find the source of the noise (hint - it's everywhere).
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Jose posted:I'm all for Kent in particular getting hosed by brexit after voting for it lol Kent gets even better https://twitter.com/kent_online/status/1344714952528039936?s=21
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The 'carry on trucking' movie writes itself at this point and is very on brand.
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If it grows exponentially, doubling in area every minute, Brexit could be done in just over half an hour.
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