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CBJSprague24 posted:I'm picturing some of Trump's worst cronies being forced to bow on one knee and grovel before Trump before he decides whether or not he gets them off. King obama! King obama!
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CBJSprague24 posted:I'm picturing some of Trump's worst cronies being forced to bow on one knee and grovel before Trump before he decides whether or not he gets them off. Honestly I’d be surprised if he doesn’t go, “hey I got this idea from Vince” as he turns around and starts pulling his pants down.
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Dec 2, 2020 02:46
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shame on an IGA posted:please, Donald John Trump has never gotten anyone off Well he got Herman Cain off this planet.
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Dec 2, 2020 02:47
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Well he got Herman Cain off this planet. 
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Dec 2, 2020 02:57
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Trump’s considering pardoning his three fuckup kids and Jared Kushner, totally cool and not at all suspicious at all https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/us/politics/rudy-giuliani-pardon.html
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Dec 2, 2020 03:00
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Well he got Herman Cain off this planet. 
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Dec 2, 2020 03:02
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Trump’s considering pardoning his three fuckup kids and Jared Kushner, totally cool and not at all suspicious at all I can't wait to see what the chuds say if he pardons himself. If he does, it's effectively an admission of guilt, which would mean he broke the law. If he doesn't, he can continue to claim innocence, but open himself to prosecution.
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Dec 2, 2020 03:03
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CBJSprague24 posted:I can't wait to see what the chuds say if he pardons himself. They will not care in the slightest. Rule of law is a cudgel for use against minorities and poor people.
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Dec 2, 2020 03:06
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CBJSprague24 posted:I can't wait to see what the chuds say if he pardons himself. "He's just being smart because the obviously biased FBI and Biden DOJ would not give him a fair shake anyway" Although I don't know if you can grant a blanket "I pardon myself for crimes that may or may not have taken place during the years 2016-2020", problems with pardoning himself aside, like do you have to be specific about what crime your pardoning a dude for?
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Dec 2, 2020 03:11
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Dec 2, 2020 03:13
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I think they gave Nixon a blanket one didn't they?
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Dec 2, 2020 03:17
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https://twitter.com/eaton/status/1333930318726914052?s=20 That whole hearing was just crazy pants-on-head energy
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Dec 2, 2020 03:18
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I think they gave Nixon a blanket one didn't they? Yes but it probably wouldn't have held up if it was ever tested in court. And it still contributed to Ford losing the election.
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Dec 2, 2020 03:29
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CBJSprague24 posted:I can't wait to see what the chuds say if he pardons himself. Anything that involves a self pardon only applies at the federal level. State of NY is rumored to be sitting on 60+ indictments and just waiting till 12:01 Jan 20th to file charges. Trump is either going to jail or will lose everything the banks owns trying to stay out of it. Comrade Blyatlov posted:I think they gave Nixon a blanket one didn't they? Basically. The language of it was something like any crimes associated with his time as president or some poo poo. Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/eaton/status/1333930318726914052?s=20 Was it an actual hearing or another one of those Ramada Inn conference room sessions where they get a bunch of hacks to sit around and say "elections are bad"? Because if its the latter, everyone needs to stop calling them hearings and start calling them group therapy sessions or "meetings".
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Dec 2, 2020 03:32
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Genocide Tendency posted:State of NY is rumored to be sitting on 60+ indictments 
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Dec 2, 2020 03:37
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Smdftb you stupid piece of poo poo. You deserve everything Trump gives you.
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Dec 2, 2020 03:41
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What are they realistically going to do? A small show of force (and no I’m not trying to excuse service members who got traumatic brain injuries as not being a big deal) and that’s it? They clearly designed it to look big, but to avoid American casualties. Honestly if that was the trade off for making Qassim part of the pavement at Baghdad international it’s , arguably, wasn’t a bad deal. Also they immediately own goaled themselves with shooting down a civilian plane...that took off from their own country. If they or more likely the IRGC (which I’d love to see a comparison analysis between it and the Kwantung Army in the 1930s) try anything big the Islamic state is going to have some very bad times. I do think it’s unfortunate that the IRGC constantly sabotages attempt by the reform minded members of the Iranian Government and people...because I belief the IRGC acts parallel to the government conducting its own foreign policy and military operations. The realities have shifted. Iran has a lot of enemies who would love nothing more then to end the Islamic Republic of Iran. Also Trump seems to not want to avoid conflict as he did previously (missile attack and the Saudi refinery) They going to try and close Hormuz? That’s going to make Praying Mantis look like a goddamn picnic by comparison (also if I recall the Iranian Navy is not in good shape anyway compared to their other branches). Trump would love to have a Ronnie moment. Launch a large scale missile attack on Israel? Yeah that will absolutely end well for them. Terrorist attack abroad (similar to Argentina), perhaps, but not the United States, because goddamn Bernie would have even clapped back at them with the military for a domestic terrorist attack on US soil. Move ahead in the nuclear program? Fine but all it does is confirm all the claims against them. They’re going to continue doing the same poo poo they always do. Deniable ops from Yemen, the Shiite Militias in Iraq, destabilizing Lebanese and supporting Assad. They wait till Biden takes office...I don’t think he’ll be able to or even will tolerate the things Trump did (not that Trump did out of strong moral strength or strategic though) without a response. I just feel they have no response that is any different from the past that doesn’t end very badly for them. Look I don’t want a bunch of dead Iranians or anyone else, but I don’t see what they can do beyond previous actions that doesn’t end badly for them. I’m not trying to be a jackass, I just don’t know what they can realistically do. Then again unlike North Korean threats I don’t view Iranian ones as idle bitching. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Dec 2, 2020 |
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Dec 2, 2020 03:45
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I don't even want to try to find the twitter thread, but that was the rumor. Someone with the credibility to make it sound legit or at least partially legit broke down the various threads. All centered around Trump org, foundation and some of the other entities under Trump's umbrella of bullshit. Most of it related to tax and wire fraud. Basically the state proved he was using dual books and defrauding everyone from the tax man to the banks funding his business failures. You can google a dozen stories from major news groups and get the same general outline, just not the "pending indictment" part.
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Dec 2, 2020 03:47
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Honestly surprised they didn't scrap it as soon as Trump broke the deal.
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Dec 2, 2020 03:49
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Genocide Tendency posted:I don't even want to try to find the twitter thread, but that was the rumor. Honestly I think inauguration Cyrus Vance needs to indict and attempt to extricate or at the least prevent them from traveling outside the country and surrendering their passports (although I’m not sure what the mechanics for that are or if it’s possible just based on an investigation). That said I could see Trump just hanging out in Florida and DeSantis refusing to extradite him. Would be amusing to have Florida be his Ecuadorian embassy prison.
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Dec 2, 2020 03:50
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trump has threatened to veto the NDAA if they do not add a rider that strikes down section 230 because he's so mad at twitter flagging his lies as lies.
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Dec 2, 2020 04:01
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Mr. Nice! posted:trump has threatened to veto the NDAA if they do not add a rider that strikes down section 230 because he's so mad at twitter flagging his lies as lies. But doesn't the GOP want less government interference of private companies?
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Dec 2, 2020 04:02
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i hope they do it so social media can die
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Dec 2, 2020 04:03
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Mr. Nice! posted:trump has threatened to veto the NDAA if they do not add a rider that strikes down section 230 because he's so mad at twitter flagging his lies as lies. Don’t forget his need for rear end sucking up to traitors. That said I doubt he’ll do it. It’s the NDAA when is the last time any President actually vetoed one?
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Dec 2, 2020 04:03
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Don’t forget his need for rear end sucking up to traitors. What does it matter to the president at this point? Even if it fucks things up it doesn’t cost him anything to be completely intransigent if his whims aren’t met, that’s something for McConnell, Pelosi, and Biden to worry about.
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Dec 2, 2020 04:14
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Woofer posted:Step 1: read some of the letters the kids wrote A moral society has no need for charity. This seems like a worthy cause to spend the money I'm saving by not buying presents for or even talking to the family members who went full QAnon chud this year.
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Dec 2, 2020 04:14
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Midjack posted:What does it matter to the president at this point? Even if it fucks things up it doesn’t cost him anything to be completely intransigent if his whims aren’t met, that’s something for McConnell, Pelosi, and Biden to worry about. Probably nothing, especially since Congress probably override it. Oh and to answer my own question. https://twitter.com/steventdennis/status/1333973311815102465?s=21
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Dec 2, 2020 04:23
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That margin wouldn’t necessarily hold up if legislators were forced to consider an override but otoh 90% of Congress is a tomahawk missile in a suit
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Dec 2, 2020 04:28
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Y’all should brush up on Budget Resolution -> NDAA -> Appropriation
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Dec 2, 2020 04:29
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1333975991518187521 You get what you deserve when you get in bed with trump
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Dec 2, 2020 04:39
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Woofer posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1333975991518187521 Last I checked that was worth about 130k
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Dec 2, 2020 04:44
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Dec 2, 2020 04:55
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Genocide Tendency posted:Anything that involves a self pardon only applies at the federal level. State of NY is rumored to be sitting on 60+ indictments and just waiting till 12:01 Jan 20th to file charges. Can you imagine being the poor bastard Secret Service agent who has to be with him in prison? I mean they aren't putting him in gen pop but having to listen to him rant all loving day about how it was all an Obama led conspiracy....
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Dec 2, 2020 05:01
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Thomamelas posted:Can you imagine being the poor bastard Secret Service agent who has to be with him in prison? I mean they aren't putting him in gen pop but having to listen to him rant all loving day about how it was all an Obama led conspiracy.... Let’s be honest if your draw that job, you probably made some very poor decisions. Alternatively it’s easy as poo poo, because he can’t override the normal rules of being in prison, and you can just gently caress around and play switch all day.
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Dec 2, 2020 05:03
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Trump’s considering pardoning his three fuckup kids and Jared Kushner, totally cool and not at all suspicious at all He’ll pardon Barron for completeness. Not Tiffany.
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Dec 2, 2020 05:09
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Let’s be honest if your draw that job, you probably made some very poor decisions. Now when you say playing switch...
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Dec 2, 2020 05:13
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Milo and POTUS posted:Now when you say playing switch... with a long, flexible piece of wood.
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Dec 2, 2020 05:14
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Let’s be honest if your draw that job, you probably made some very poor decisions. I do feel like drawing that duty is a sign the agency would like you to quit, yes.
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Dec 2, 2020 05:17
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Lol at the idea that trump will ever face a single consequence.
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In honor of 2020 I am going to make people extra strong eggnog. But instead of "extra strong" as in extra booze, it means I triple the eggs.
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