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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Arecibo fell :(

https://twitter.com/PlanetTreky/status/1333746729603182593?s=19

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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https://twitter.com/BrendanKeefe/status/1333884246277189633?s=20

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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https://twitter.com/nuclearkatie/status/1333956929866117123?s=20

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Comrade Blyatlov posted:

I think they gave Nixon a blanket one didn't they?

Yes but it probably wouldn't have held up if it was ever tested in court. And it still contributed to Ford losing the election.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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I mean, we all already knew this, but guess who the primary PPP loan beneficiaries were:

https://twitter.com/CommieGIR/status/1334134582778753025?s=20

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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If only someone had told them what a Faraday cage was :thunk:

Oh well, better than the Quantum Shield woo stuff that has actual Thorium Dioxide in it. Nothing like fighting the Five Gees with Ionization Radiation (granted, mostly Alpha).

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Nephzinho posted:

You'd have to charge at least $200 for such a wonderful product. Maybe 2 for $500, make sure to get one on each speaker.

Just stick vacuum tubes on it, they'll pay more than $200 for that.

They don't have to function, no.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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CainFortea posted:

"Georgia has a history of going into battle (as traitors who are fighting for the right of the rich to own slaves)"

Georgia also has an odd history with Fire and Uncle Billy.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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facialimpediment posted:

Here's something more substantive. I noticed this on emails, but wondering if there was more to it. There is!

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1334304138373574659

2024.

Lmao, of all the people who will be a damp towel, Pence is a nothing without Trump, he'll never make it to the primaries.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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This hurts Pence

https://twitter.com/CollinFisher/status/1334315302109151234?s=20

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Sacrist65 posted:

However, when 30% of the country believes you are their divinely appointed savior, you will have an endless supply of marks to grift off. His net worth will likely increase while "running" in 2024.

Unlikely. Right now, NY is waiting him with open arms because of the Real Estate Tax fraud stuff, he has massive debts coming due that he cannot rid himself of in bankruptcy because he PERSONALLY backed them.

Trump is unlikely to be financially or mentally fit for a 2024 run, and any campaigning around such is just to grift people to settle his ongoing re-election debts

CainFortea posted:

Ya'all know they're gonna get state level pardons too to "further the healing of the divide in america" right?

I don't see State pardons as likely, and while Trump himself will never be likely to face jail, Kushner and Trump kids may actually see some repercussions.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Sacrist65 posted:

Maybe. Also this post could have been written in 2015

No, because he was in better financial shape in 2015. He has nearly a billion dollars in debt coming due in 2021, and didn't have pending cases waiting for his Org.

Being in public office was the worst thing that could've happened to the Trump Org, because suddenly they came under tighter scrutiny and, surprise surprise, its a fraudulent mess.
All the details necessary to know this were not known in 2015, most of this stuff didn't become public till 2020.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Sacrist65 posted:



Same energy

K then.

facialimpediment posted:

Yeah this is the common thing when it comes to high-profile people and investigations. At one time, they weren't so high-profile, the state really didn't give a poo poo if he lied on his federal tax returns, and he wasn't in charge of an openly-corrupt government. Just the fact that a new Secretary of Treasury will immediately hand over Donnie's tax returns to NYState and Congress (unless stopped by courts) to prove the poo poo in the NYT series is quite a lot. Probably doesn't lead to an Actual Thing, but it enables the Actual Thing to happen.

Also, if Donnie does somehow manage to either pardon himself (sketchy) or others, my long-term bet is that he uses campaign / leadership PAC money to pay down his personal debts. I'm almost positive that's a severe legal no-no, and pardons can't cover future activity. I doubt he has the self-control to avoid tapping into the "no touchy" pots of money.

Yeah, nobody is pretending he isn't the only one doing it.

One thing Trump did clearly while president was skip out on bills for his rallies. He's not going to be able to do that as easily out of office, not to mention lack of access to, basically, free cross country transport.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Technically the rules of the road is bikes have as much right to be in the primary lane of travel as cars in most states.

And let's be honest: most Pedestrian laws favor cars for a reason....because Auto companies lobbies to ensure it favored cars.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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not caring here posted:

I think it was about 1990, and Trump decided he wanted to open a casino in Sydney. It took the federales about 2 weeks to figure out that all his money was dirty money from all over the world.

30. loving. Years. Ago.

He was considered ridiculous all over the world back then, just some rich idiot who did stupid things with his money. Yet here we are.

In the 1980s Trump was WIDELY portrayed as a Bad Guy for good reason almost universally.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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lightpole posted:

Calling them pigs is about as clearly dehumanizing as it gets how is this misunderstood? Admonishing others for doing it while doing it yourself in almost the same sentence comes off as a little hypocritical.

I mean... *waves hand at thousands of pictures of police brutality and abuse from BLM marches*

gently caress em.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Coal rolling at least is a self-correcting problem

Kinda. It'll seize up their piston rings eventually through carbon buildup.

But it also contributes heavily to childhood asthma :smith:

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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https://twitter.com/GeoRebekah/status/1336065787900145665?s=20

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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BIG HEADLINE posted:

Reminder that the only reason the VC-25s got fast tracked in the first place is because Trump was embarrassed that his 747 was shorter than the Qatari and Kuwaiti 7478i VIPs he saw before the now notorious ORB meeting. Before that he was all "spendy Obama and his new planes! :sad:"

And he won't even get to enjoy his selfishness.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Chuck Yeager passed away

https://twitter.com/GenChuckYeager/status/1336150145369444352?s=19

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Dec 8, 2020

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Shockingly good move, hopefully the follow up is to do a large investigation of the reported assaults.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Chris Krebs is suing Trump's lawyer and Newsmax over the death threat:

https://twitter.com/MalwareJake/status/1336346972551262209?s=20

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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RFC2324 posted:

I feel like, due to the wording about "Party loyalty" that this could be a huge thing against both parties and the bullshit tribal politics of today.

I think his point is Trump has largely been using threats, up to and including riling up his base with masked death/jail threats. in this case: a DIRECT death threat.

That's not something the Dems have been doing.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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stackofflapjacks posted:

Let's burn this mother down.

In other current news, looks like Javanka are planning their exit and staying close to daddy and Mar-A-Lago:
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/529194-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-buying-30m-lot-in-florida?amp

They are hoping for an exit plan when New York comes a callin'.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Woofer posted:

I’m convinced we have a better chance of a second Trump term than of anyone facing state charges in NY. Why not charge Jared and Ivanka now? They aren’t the president, and trump is a lame duck with just a few weeks left in office.

For the exact reason that: They are not president, they openly committed fraud and corruption, and Jared is likely wanted for massive tax fraud for how he managed Trump properties in New York. Ivanka is likely going to face some sort of legal challenge from her writing off her taxes as a "contractor" while she was actively employed as a Trump Org employee.

Trump and Co jilted New York out of millions in taxes, the bill is coming due, and New York and Deutsche Bank want their money.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Woofer posted:

what are they waiting for?

Good question, I don't know. But we already know New York is investigating Trump Org, they've taken statements, and Ivanka is openly worried about her tax fraud and isn't really hiding it.

Trump himself will never face any real legal repercussions outside of maybe losing a large chunk of his empire to debt proceedings, but I suspect Trump kids and others won't be as lucky.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Woofer posted:

Seems more plausible that nothing will happen rather than them just waiting in the wings for the right time to take them down. The fundamentally broken justice system isn’t going to fix itself to get into a legal battle with a former president’s kids.

Yes, but our fundamentally broken justice system loves money, and tax fraud is full of money.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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bulletsponge13 posted:

It'd be hysterical and 100% on Brand for Trump to roll on his kids as soon as he realizes he can get ahead slightly.

He totally will, if he's told he can save any amount of his empire/name brand he'll do it in a heartbeat.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Woofer posted:

NY has more billionaires than anywhere on earth and they don’t seem to care about the tax fraud that all of them are probably committing.

Because most Billionaires don't say the quiet part out loud nor have their tax fraud openly leaked.

Plenty of Tax Fraud in New York, but Trump Org is probably ones of the stupidest of the frauds.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Cythereal posted:

Deutsche Bank is also after them, probably due to the PR. Anyone who takes down the Trumps, or does significant damage to them, is going to be famous at least for a little while. Have to imagine that's a part of it.

I think its largely a race to see who can get their hands on the goods first, Deutsche wants Trump property to pay off the loans that they know Trump can't liquidate, and New York wants them for the back taxes and fraud.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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BIG HEADLINE posted:

Douchey Bank relies heavily on being the The Bank of Choice for Evil Motherfuckers so I don't have a lot of faith in their "investigation" being any more than lip service for fear of scaring their clientele.

Yeah, I think that's what he means: Trump is ruining their image as Evil Lender Inc, so they are unlikely to sit back and let him continue. And the easiest way to do that is to seize his assets to pay off the debt.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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M_Gargantua posted:

Yeah, this is the key point. Billionaires and politicians are both well known for good reason for being corrupt and using their money as a bludgeon. However most of them are also rich enough and smart enough to have the bare minimum of legal overhead to keep their tax evasion and graft within the letter of the law. Contrary to House of Cards there isn't a shadowy cabal doing actual hard crime on the regular. Its cheap and easy to shuffle legal money through offshore holdings to evade taxes it just takes a few % off the top. Trump meanwhile just does all the financial crime in the open because he's too broke and stupid to just pay the way to keep it legal.

Plus all the real crime ontop of the regular stuff.

Its worth noting that he used to have some decent financial people: He chased them off in the 80s and 90s because he did what he always does and tries to pull the rug out from under them when payment comes due. Cohen was probably his last bag man who he used as a legal and financial bludgeon, and even Cohen got burned.

I mean, Cohen's already explained how they worked: Refuse to pay the bill and tie people up in court while sending threatening legal letters to drag them out until they either give up and take what Trump offers or simply forgot and assumed it was a lost cause.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Dec 8, 2020

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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https://twitter.com/NarangVipin/status/1336718201552453633?s=20

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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MazelTovCocktail posted:

Last I checked how was the Iraqi and Syrian program going?

I don't mean to sound as ungodly snarky as it comes off as, but with quotes I've seen from arms control experts (ie Jeffery Lewis) they seem to not want to be able to admit that it does delay the program. I understand they have a vested interest in promoting negotiated non proliferation, but I feel like they could be a little more honest about it. Say this will slow it down, but this is bad for these reasons. I mean someone pointed out that after previous Iranian assassinations that Iran stepped up police protection and surveillance of all the scientists...which made their lives living hell (which I can't imagine is good for work).

Okay I've made my peace about it.

Ask the MIT professor, but its worth noting that Israel's and the US's violent attempts have done nothing more than provide minor delays versus the Iran Negotiations which had measurable and fast acting effects.

https://twitter.com/NarangVipin/status/1336669117424799745?s=20

What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? That's pretty much the US and Israeli strategy at this point. The reality is, while the delay effect is visible, in reality is just strengthens their resolve no matter the delay.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Dec 9, 2020

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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mlmp08 posted:

Well, here's how the Iraqi program went: The US government said that actually Iraq was building weapons of mass destruction and had to be stopped, and then the US launched a ground invasion and toppled the regime 30 years after the Osiraq strike. So according to the US at the time, the strikes did not ultimately work and only an escalation to full war and occupation would suffice. The US would later acknowledge that this was complete bullshit.

Even better they did so while the Inspectors were going "Uhhhhhh, no they are not" by letting the CIA basically fabricate evidence.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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MazelTovCocktail posted:

That said we can all agree it does actually delay the program, right? I mean that's fine and good about the resolve, but if you just keep delaying it, then the resolve means nothing.

But I appreciate that we can admit it does delay things.

Not by enough to actually make the delay worthwhile, no. Its a strategy made by people who don't understand how to actually get things done and thinking flexing military might makes you a geopolitical genius.

Again, if you think otherwise, go correct the MIT Professor whose entire job is studying Nuclear Proliferation, he doesn't think it works.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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MazelTovCocktail posted:

Depending on what we do, some actions are better then others no doubt. But I also feel like we take the Iranians at their face value (not saying conversely you take the other side at face value either).

None of the hardline actions of Israel or the US have achieved any real results other than minor delays. Its the same people that think if they ignore climate change it won't affect them.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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17 states have filed in favor of the lawsuit challenging the election results:

https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1336763665580765187?s=20

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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MA-Horus posted:

Thank you stupid air force for forcing polar orbit captures and basically doubling the size of the orbiter.

We could have had a fleet of shuttles if it hadn't been for that stupid, never used requirement.

And they used it for DOD like....what, twice, and nearly destroyed the shuttle during one of those instances?

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Wasabi the J posted:

Tbh I would almost breathe a sigh of relief if Kessler syndrome forced humanity to give up on running from it's loving problems and maybe a billionaire could maybe pretend to give a poo poo about the air or something the people with no money can benefit from.

Like I'm really willing to give up everything in leo. It's all spy poo poo and gps. Who cares I got a compass.

Most of the information we get to help fight climate change comes from satellites, and most of our advanced weather tracking stuff is orbital.

Its not exaggeration that Kessler Syndrome would likely result in hundreds, if not thousands of excess deaths from sudden lack of weather tracking and meteorology systems, not to mention rescue tracking.

Please don't wish for it, because you know those fucks will still be selfish even if locked to Earth.

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