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STAC Goat posted:In the name of balance if Spielberg has Jurassic Park he probably get gets Lost World too, no? Spielberg also has Something Evil, which is largely overlooked. I don't have time to make full submissions at this minute but here was my list of directors who were completely excluded from the 64-person bracket last time: Andrzej Żuławski, Eli Roth, William Friedkin, Lloyd Kaufman, M. Night Shyamalan, Gore Verbinski, Jesus Franco, Jean Rollin, Ruggero Deodato, Jen & Sylvia Soska, Ben Wheatley, Charles Band, Herbert L. Strock, Fred Olen Ray, Richard Stanley, Shinya Tsukamoto, Joe D'Amato, Hideo Nakata, Takashi Shimizu, Sergio Martino, Tom Holland, Roy Ward Baker, Andy Milligan, Uwe Boll, Richard Franklin, Anthony C. Ferrante, Joe Begos, Amando de Ossorio, Norman J. Warren, Al Adamson, Robert Fuest, Steven Spielberg, Ted Nicolaou, Mark Jones, Nigel Bach, Adam Green, Stephen Sommers, Freddie Francis, Hélène Cattet and Bruno Forzani, Jan Svankmajer, Robert Harmonl José Mojica Marins, Freddie Frances Personally I find the Teams function a little weird and unwieldy but if everyone else wants it then who am I to argue. My pitch was to choose 32 newcomers and 32 Second Chance directors who were eliminated in the first or second rounds last time, but this works too.
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Ok, choosing a few weirdos to toss in here for some true Anything Can Happen action: Al Adamson Blood of Dracula's Castle Horror of the Blood Monsters Dracula vs. Frankenstein Brain of Blood Blood of Ghastly Horror Doctor Dracula Andy Milligan The Ghastly Ones (aka Blood Rites) Bloodthirsty Butchers The Rats Are Coming! The Werewolves Are Here! The Man with Two Heads Legacy of Blood House of Seven Belles Carnage The Weirdo Surgikill Shinya Tsukamoto Tetsuo, the Iron Man Tetsuo II: Body Hammer Tetsuo, the Bullet Man Hiruko the Goblin Gemini Haze Nightmare Detective Freddie Francis Paranoiac The Evil of Frankenstein Nightmare Dr. Terror's House of Horrors The Skull The Deadly Bees Torture Garden Dracula Has Risen from the Grave Trog Mumsy, Nanny, Sonny and Girly Tales from the Crypt (1972) The Creeping Flesh Son of Dracula The Ghoul Legend of the Werewolf The Doctor and the Devils Dark Tower Fred Olen Ray Demented Death Farm Massacre The Brain Leeches Alien Dead Scalps Biohazard Deep Space Beverly Hills Vamp Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers Billy Frankenstein Tomb of the Werewolf Uwe Boll Amoklauf Sanctimony House of the Dead Alone in the Dark BloodRayne BloodRayne II: Deliverance Seed BloodRayne: The Third Reich Jan Svankmajer Alice Faust Conspirators of Pleasure Little Otik Lunacy Insects José Mojica Marins At Midnight I'll Take Your Soul This Night I'll Possess Your Corpse The Strange World of Coffin Joe Awakening of the Beast The Bloody Exorcism of Coffin Joe Hellish Flesh Hallucinations of a Deranged Mind Embodiment of Evil M. Night Shyamalan The Sixth Sense Signs The Village The Happening The Visit Split TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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Tarnop posted:You beautiful, beautiful goon We gotta spice it up for the sequel!
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Amando de Ossorio Malenka, the Vampire's Niece Tombs of the Blind Dead Return of the Blind Dead The Ghost Galleon Demon Witch Child Night of the Seagulls Jesus Franco The Diabolical Dr. Z Necronomicon (aka Succubus) The Bloody Judge Count Dracula Vampyros Lesbos A Virgin Among the Living Dead Female Vampire Jack the Ripper Devil Hunter Oasis of the Zombies TEAM: Andrzej Żuławski & Other Poles The Third Part of the Night The Devil Possession On the Silver Globe Mother Joan of the Angels (directed by Jerzy Kawalerowicz) The Beast (directed by Walerian Borowczyk)
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:Team: Deb Tricks You Into Watching Porn Along with Jean Rollin and Jesus Franco I feel like this is gonna be a horror-softcore heavy tournament this time around. I know there's a lot of heavy hitters who got eliminated early last time (Carpenter, Craven, Argento, etc.) who need another chance but I'd be down to exclude directors who made it to the third round or higher entirely (Cronenberg, Lynch, etc.) just to give more space to weirdos and obscurities. edit: For reference, that would be Takashi Miike, Stuart Gordon, George Romero, Ishiro Honda, Bong Joon-ho, Chuck Russell, Ari Aster, Brian Yuzna, Ridley Scott, David Lynch, Sam Raimi, David Cronenberg, Alfred Hitchcock, Peter Jackson, Guillermo del Toro, Ken Russell and Larry Cohen. Not sure how people feel about that, but it would certainly ensure this tournament has a different feel with an emphasis on new or underexplored names. TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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As much as I have an aversion to anime I'm all for getting some more in here. Part of the reason I'm lobbying for excluding directors who made it to at least the third round is I don't want us to be pitching all these obscure and offbeat directors only for them to get tossed in seed voting for a bracket that more or less looks the same as last time but with different movies. Like, I love a lot of those directors and there's a lot of good stuff they didn't get to play, but since this is also functioning as a gamified Film Club I think it's more fun to emphasize new and weird poo poo. Plus, we'll definitely still have folks like Carpenter and Craven around to balance things out.
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Dec 8, 2020 17:53
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Since The Beast got added to my Zuwalski's list and Debbie's porn list, maybe swap it out on mine for Zuwalski's Cosmos which I haven't seen but is more of a surreal thriller. I've read the book, which certainly has some grim imagery in it.
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Dec 9, 2020 17:41
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All good. Yeah, Zuwalski with five + a guest film, and then The Beast stays on Debbie's team is best outcome. For what it's worth, I did not check the availability of those early Zuwalskis before submitting.
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Dec 9, 2020 18:10
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When do we begin winnowing down these submissions into a final bracket?
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Dec 9, 2020 19:23
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An awkward pairing but I'm assuming the natural partner for Reitman, John Landis, is gonna be persona non grata again. Spoof Comedy Ivan Reitman Cannibal Girls Ghostbusters Ghostbusters II Mel Brooks Young Frankenstein High Anxiety Dracula: Dead and Loving It
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Dec 10, 2020 15:09
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As much as John Landis sucks, his crime was more criminal negligence. It's not like he wanted or meant to kill those people, but it was a result of his actions. That is in no way an excuse, he should have faced a much steeper punishment. But like, I can still watch American Werewolf without feeling queasy. Polanski, well that's a bit different. He knew what he was doing. gently caress him, Rosemary's Baby ain't worth it.
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Dec 10, 2020 17:58
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Jeepers Creepers ain't worth it.
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:I think with Landis and Polanski they're also already recognisable names, with filmographies full of well-worn classics. They don't need this thread to highlight their work. So for me they're not only lovely people, they're also taking up a spot that would be better used to explore a less well-known director/team. This is the correct take.
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For my pick, since this will ensure they're included in the bracket, I'll go with the Japanese body horror master Shinya Tsukamoto. edit: I misread the instructions
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Dec 14, 2020 19:05
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Looks like we've got a nice geographical setup again for the divisions: America: Carpenter/Craven Japan: Miike/Tsukamoto Italy: Argento/Bava (again!)
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Dec 14, 2020 20:47
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I mean, is there much doubt who Burkion will choose?
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Dec 15, 2020 15:59
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I favored directors over teams but minimized directors who appeared in the previous tournament, although there's a few who I feel didn't get a fair shake last time who I'd like to see come back for another chance (Kiyoshi Kurosawa for one).
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Oddly enough I've been thinking of rewatching Salo for awhile. Something something the rising tide of fascism. Also I got a Pitch. STAC Goat -- What if, assuming there are any a the end of voting, one or two of the directors that received exactly Zero votes gets a slot in the play-ins? For a total wildcard we choose at random one of the directors nobody wanted. Alternatively, the director with the least amount of votes. The "Hey, Why Don't We Give 'em A Chance" competitor. TrixRabbi fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Dec 16, 2020 |
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It's been a long time since I've seen it but I never got that sense from it. Honestly, the gross stuff wasn't what got to me, I have a strong enough stomach. I just find it an overwhelmingly sad film that exemplifies the powerlessness the victims of fascism endure.
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Dec 16, 2020 18:54
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Goddamn that is a good av
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Dec 17, 2020 18:53
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Oh yeah, I can vouch for Attack of the Crab Monsters. Good poo poo, vote for Corman and maybe it will get to duke it out in this tournament.
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Dec 18, 2020 16:37
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Miike won his division! He's a champion.
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STAC Goat posted:... Isn't this also just the same movie cut differently as the Half Human we watched?
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Jan 3, 2021 00:43
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I feel like Baghead should be on that team.
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Jan 5, 2021 03:14
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I'm sorry Shrecknet but that is a godawful take. I mean, it is a conceptual mood piece but it's one that is so overwhelming in its eerieness and sadness. I haven't seen it since it was in theaters -- good god almost seven years ago now. That one "POP" (if you've seen the movie you know what I mean) is maybe one of the scariest things I've ever seen in a film. And then I just recently watched Corona Zombies. Look, it's almost certainly not gonna win but I will say it got a few actual laughs out of me and some day that thing is going to be a weird rear end time capsule of a very specific month in history. Like if you ever want to reflect on the immediate days of the pandemic before we knew we were supposed to wear masks but after toilet paper had gone out of stock that's the movie. It's the only Charles Band film I've ever seen lmao.
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Shrecknet posted:I don't begrudge a movie being slow - Lake Mungo is absolutely glacial and it's one of my all-time favorites - but a movie being boring I cannot abide. Once we get the concept (alien come to earth to steal all our men's precious fluids) it's another hour of aimless driving and mumblecore dialog until something interesting happens again. I will say the way you're talking about Under the Skin it makes it sound like you wanted something plot oriented when this is very much not what the film is about. Like, you're talking about padding as if this is a film about getting from point A to point B and not an allegory about feeling like an alien in your own skin and failure to connect with others.
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Shrecknet posted:yes this is what films are 
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Jan 9, 2021 17:12
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Still gotta say it, even if you hate everything else Noe has done, Climax is legit great even if not entirely free of his problematic poo poo. But there's no animal slaughter.
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Jan 11, 2021 16:20
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Yeah, its most grueling moment happens off screen and most of the time it's just an immensely fun movie. Oops, Noe made a crowd pleaser.
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Jan 11, 2021 16:28
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I mean, Lars von Trier made a workplace comedy once.
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Jan 11, 2021 22:37
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The Von Trier I'd suggest for people who don't like Von Trier is Europa. It's a Kafkaesque story dealing with the aftermath of WWII but its sensibilities are closer to something like Terry Gilliam's Brazil. Plus it's got a great cast of Euro-favorite character actors like Max Von Sydow, Barbara Sukowa, Udo Kier and Eddie Constantine. The Five Obstructions is also a fun watch.
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Jan 12, 2021 15:04
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The thing about Antichrist is that it is at least a legit good film with great performances. Like, I don't think it'd be talked about in nearly the same way if it didn't have substance. However, it's been closing in on a decade since I watched it so I may need to refresh myself at some point.
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Jan 12, 2021 16:34
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There's a tendency to want to dismiss them as primitive provocateurs but they're both very talented artists who succeed in making you feel like poo poo because they actually are hitting at dark truths about humanity and life. But also, both can be incredibly funny at the same time. I'd argue a good number of Von Trier's films in particular are comedies.
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Jan 12, 2021 17:06
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I've definitely been too busy to watch stuff, and thus will be defaulting to Under the Skin and I Stand Alone. Unless there's a silent majority seems like that's the trend. I wish Shyamalan had gotten a better shot.
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Jan 15, 2021 05:02
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I haven’t seen Mother Joan of the Angels, though gotta admit its a little annoying that the point of that team was to get Zuwalski in the tournament and now he’s riding on the one add-on. Fingers crossed.
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Jan 15, 2021 15:23
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With Mother Joan squeaking by the rest of that team is just Zuwalski, who really should have been in the first tournament on his own but got forgotten.
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Jan 22, 2021 16:42
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Really weird seeing everyone dunk on Zombie when it's a pretty solid movie. Like, is it great? No. But it's good! It's gooey and violent and a zombie fights a shark and it ends with a fantastic fire setpiece.
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Jan 25, 2021 20:07
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STAC Goat posted:"French directors love killing horses" is like the last theme I expected to develop from this. Haneke's Austrian but maybe working in French is what drove him to do it.
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Jan 28, 2021 14:10
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Gonna make some enemies today: Ghostbusters is just eh and Ghostbuster II is bad. I realize this is my team I submitted, and I do think they have a role in this tournament and deserve to compete. But, like, 2 in particular is fairly dull, unfunny and poorly paced.
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Ghostwatch is a fuckin' masterpiece. I need to watch Audrey Rose, but Ghostwatch is a truly terrifying, amazing work.
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