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Even though I've never got anywhere past level 65, this server is pretty cool. I'll probably hop on this and maybe actually experience some of the content. As someone mentioned earlier the "gulf" between 65 and raiding is not a gulf, its a planet sized ocean.
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blatman posted:what's this server like these days if I don't really enjoy raiding? Any 65 exp zone is going to be tuned for 6 man groups of varying tier levels, though many drop BoEs which are meant to be sold (players who can obtain them typically already have better gear). Here is a list of specific 6 man content. Both Cmal 1-3 and Hate are specifically designed for new 65s and reward gear for most slots (tier 3-4 from cmal, and tier 5-6 from hate). Both cmal and hate can require steady farming to fill all your slots, but they are good exp zones and I enjoyed playing in them. After that there are a few options for advancement. Emberflow and Windstone would be a bit difficult in pure Hate gear, but could probably have some of their easier areas tackled. There is also Bounty Hunting which rewards time gated currency at 3 levels. The hardest (third rank) can be challenging, but the difficulty varies widely, and some would definitely be in the range of Hate geared groups, possibly even a duo. With rank 3 tokens you can build tier 7ish gear, but it can take 100 days or so of doing rank 3s every day to build gear for every slot available. Bounty gear is usually made to fill in missing worn effects and especially missing focus effects. You can peruse the previously linked 6 man content list for more after that; there are encounters at every tier but the highest. Tier 8 and above will start to be difficult without raid gear or 1,000+ AAs.
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Dec 11, 2020 19:51
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I love the idea of seasons for long term MMORPG health, I've been a big proponent of it for UO servers that I've played on. For UO servers though I advocated for complete annual server wipes. That probably doesn't work for Everquest, but also no one is going to want to convert into playing non-season characters with people who have been raiding for 15 years. It just wouldn't be fun to play with the established raid scene as a fresh 65. I honestly feel like it would be better if this was just a server wipe instead of the seasons system. I'd still join if season 1 didn't start the same day that I go out of town for a week and a half. Ah well, maybe season 2.
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There are quite a few players who have argued for wipes over the years. The administration has not really shown an indication it was part of the plan, but then again they don't communicate plans much beyond current changes. A week or two isn't that far behind if you are really interested. Yes some people will already be 65, but that's the shortest part of the journey. A fresh 65 will be able to contribute to groups of 65s with at most a couple hundred AA easily, and people have estimated making it to tier 7-8 raiding by the end of the season. Having a character or duo at tier 7 or 8 allows you to advance your character quite a bit on your own (more options for money gain, experience gain, and getting far in the main quests and faction quests). Tier 10-11 content is regularly cleared, and a tier 7 character that invested time into progressing AAs and their charm shouldn't have too hard a time finding a guild to play with. Edit - started FAQ on first post. First subject is the amount of grind in SoD. Stonewalljack fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Dec 12, 2020 |
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Stonewalljack posted:There are quite a few players who have argued for wipes over the years. The administration has not really shown an indication it was part of the plan, but then again they don't communicate plans much beyond current changes. A week or two isn't that far behind if you are really interested. Yes some people will already be 65, but that's the shortest part of the journey. A fresh 65 will be able to contribute to groups of 65s with at most a couple hundred AA easily, and people have estimated making it to tier 7-8 raiding by the end of the season. Having a character or duo at tier 7 or 8 allows you to advance your character quite a bit on your own (more options for money gain, experience gain, and getting far in the main quests and faction quests). Tier 10-11 content is regularly cleared, and a tier 7 character that invested time into progressing AAs and their charm shouldn't have too hard a time finding a guild to play with. Any guild recommendations for people who manage to make it to 65?
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Dragonkin has always been welcoming to new people. Pretentious was recruiting every new player for the beginning of the year, but I don’t know if they have backed off as they have been advancing tiers. I’ve raided with both and they were both pleasant groups of people.
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Cool, thanks. Probably spending the first day gathering my herd and getting everyone through a few of their starter quests. I'll see you guys in-game!
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Dec 14, 2020 02:18
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Sounds like a decent amount of Goon Squad people are coming back/rolling season characters, not sure what that translates to long term, but I'll be rolling a duo and we'll have folks active/online in Goon Squad again.
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I'm going to check this out. I've played a bit of P99 (and an even smaller bit of live EQ back in the 20th century), but not enough to be a veteran.
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Just something to note for people who haven't touched this game - there have been a *lot* of improvements over the years. The low level content and early-tier raiding, notably, is in a far better state today. However, a lot of that updating is disabled for this race-specific event. If you're more interested in seeing more of the game, I wouldn't make a season-specific character because adepts and the new requiem zones are pretty huge. The item quality obtained in adepts and the requiem zones beat out most T1-6 raiding gear. With that said, if you plan on going hard with the people who have no-lifed this game for years (who will undoubtedly be going hard on this season for fame rewards and item skins), you might get more mileage riding their coat tails through raiding. T7/8 content, which isn't unreasonable to think people pushing content in the season can get to, has gear that beats out anything you can get in the requiem zones or adept gear.
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Dec 17, 2020 21:54
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I'm interested in giving this a go since my experience with a TLP server has been pretty disappointing. Any word on what the population is like during off-peak? I'm from Australia, I'm not after a huge player base just a good crew of people to play with. Nowher fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Dec 18, 2020 |
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Null1fy posted:If you're more interested in seeing more of the game, I wouldn't make a season-specific character because adepts and the new requiem zones are pretty huge. Adept gear has been nerfed some with the intention of making them a fun diversion, but no longer vastly superior to quest or dungeon gear. Adepts are typically only duoable into the 20s. If you are making a character during seasons, I feel the loss of interaction with the rest of the leveling player base to not be worth level 1-20 nerfed adept gear. If you are hooked on the game enough to reach level 65 a month or two into seasons, I feel there is little lost to making a season character. While you will be unable to do requiem of hate for a couple of months, it will be a great time to find fresh 65 groups and possibly raids otherwise.
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Dec 18, 2020 02:04
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Nowher posted:I'm interested in giving this a go since my experience with a TLP server has been pretty disappointing. Population off-peak can drop into the low teens currently (with max peak around 100). I'll take a look this weekend and report back on what happens when season 1 starts.
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Dec 18, 2020 02:07
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I played on this server eight or nine years ago, and it's really two games in one: there's the nostalgic kick-around that you can do easily, and remember the good and bad things about a twenty-year old MMORPG. Leveling on SoD is not nearly as painful as it was on Verant/SOE's servers back in the day, and although some of the names are different, there's a lot you'll recognize. The other game is the raiding, "beat the game" style, and that is also possible but will take a truly monumental time effort, numbering many thousands of hours. If you want to make it work, you can make it work, but there's no casual way to get to the endgame.
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Made a seasonal character, can't hit anything that moves, then stopped being able to swing at anything at all. Pretty weird, I don't remember having any major issues when I briefly played years ago
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Dec 18, 2020 23:02
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PriNGLeS posted:Made a seasonal character, can't hit anything that moves, then stopped being able to swing at anything at all. Pretty weird, I don't remember having any major issues when I briefly played years ago That was a bug shortly after launch but it's fixed now. You can hit stuff again, huzzah
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Dec 19, 2020 01:09
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I just found out about SoD, and I know that there's a ton of new content but how much (if any) of the vanilla questing/story crud is around? I was mainly toying with the idea of rolling a new guy to screw around with stuff I never had time for when EQ was popular, and can't decide between the vanilla official f2p guy or this, which apparently has QoL and updates through the roof.
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I'm picking up SoD for basically the first time--I created a couple accounts years ago, but never got past level 4, so I think that still counts as starting from scratch. There is so much stuff even in just the UI that I am having to learn about, since SoD uses so much more stuff than was available in Velious era (the last expansion I really played for any appreciable amount of time). Even just setting up a UI was a massive pain in the rear end, and I still haven't really gotten it sorted. I hated loving with a UI in World of Warcraft and I hate it here too.
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Omi no Kami posted:I just found out about SoD, and I know that there's a ton of new content but how much (if any) of the vanilla questing/story crud is around? I was mainly toying with the idea of rolling a new guy to screw around with stuff I never had time for when EQ was popular, and can't decide between the vanilla official f2p guy or this, which apparently has QoL and updates through the roof. Very little of the content is original EQ. Many zones, especially early and leveling zones are setup similarly to their orginal EQ format, but names, gear drops mob levels and abilities can differ.
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Dick Burglar posted:I'm picking up SoD for basically the first time--I created a couple accounts years ago, but never got past level 4, so I think that still counts as starting from scratch. There is so much stuff even in just the UI that I am having to learn about, since SoD uses so much more stuff than was available in Velious era (the last expansion I really played for any appreciable amount of time). Even just setting up a UI was a massive pain in the rear end, and I still haven't really gotten it sorted. I hated loving with a UI in World of Warcraft and I hate it here too. Yeah I'm with you, setting up and then rearranging a UI as I gain access to more abilities is one of the larger barriers to entry for me when playing new MMOs, and the original UI on EQ/SoD is crap. Once you get a UI set up the way you like, you can copy it to other characters using the 'Copy Char' button on the SoD launcher. It copies the Charname_sod.ini and UI_Charname_sod.ini from one character to another, copying the layout. Make sure you close out of the client all the way for this to work. On the SoD forums, one of the players has put a lot of work into a custom UI called ClickSwap. In the google drive download there is even a template UI_Charname_sod.ini to copy from to save a lot of the work moving UI pieces around.
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Stonewalljack posted:Very little of the content is original EQ. Many zones, especially early and leveling zones are setup similarly to their orginal EQ format, but names, gear drops mob levels and abilities can differ. Hmkay cool, thanks for the clarification!
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Stonewalljack posted:Yeah I'm with you, setting up and then rearranging a UI as I gain access to more abilities is one of the larger barriers to entry for me when playing new MMOs, and the original UI on EQ/SoD is crap. Once you get a UI set up the way you like, you can copy it to other characters using the 'Copy Char' button on the SoD launcher. It copies the Charname_sod.ini and UI_Charname_sod.ini from one character to another, copying the layout. Make sure you close out of the client all the way for this to work. On the SoD forums, one of the players has put a lot of work into a custom UI called ClickSwap. In the google drive download there is even a template UI_Charname_sod.ini to copy from to save a lot of the work moving UI pieces around. I don’t want to go full custom, since I like the look of the classic EQ minimalist UI, but it’s gonna take me some time to figure out an arrangement for all the five million bars that suits me. Speaking of the minimalist UI, I can’t seem to figure out a way to get the old plain transparent black UI (like P99 has) in this client. Is it not available, or am I just missing it? The only UI skins I found just seem to change the icons, rather than the appearance of the windows. I don’t like the gold embellishments on the edges of the windows. Thanks for the tip about the Copy Character button. That will save me a little trouble.
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Have you tried copying the P99 UI into the SoD folder? Might work, though more likely to break.
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I remember checking out SoD back in the day when Wiz was working on it. Looks like it's changed a lot. As someone who doesn't like dualboxing in MMOs much, what classes are decent at soloing but still welcome in groups?
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Dec 21, 2020 08:03
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Pretty much anyone is welcome in a group honestly. Casters are generally going to be able to solo the best, necro/mage are probably the best.
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Kenlon posted:I remember checking out SoD back in the day when Wiz was working on it. Looks like it's changed a lot. Monk is nice because you can feign death anytime, but soloing champs are necros and magicians from what I’ve seen on the server so far Honorable mention to druids and shaman
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messing around in this on a necro, is there a place i can ask a bunch of noob questions... the discord seems kinda slow and i dont wanna bug everyone with a million questions there
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ZionestLord posted:messing around in this on a necro, is there a place i can ask a bunch of noob questions... the discord seems kinda slow and i dont wanna bug everyone with a million questions there Don’t feel shy about asking in discord, that is one of the main reasons it’s around. You can ask here, in /ooc, or the newbie guild <Dalayan’s Beginners> as well.
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well if anyone wants to run around with a complete noob sometime im level 5ish on my necro edit: made it to level 9 almost 10 : ) ZionestLord fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Dec 22, 2020 |
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Kenlon posted:I remember checking out SoD back in the day when Wiz was working on it. Looks like it's changed a lot. necro, mage, cleric (to an extent), bard, paladin if you stick to undead zones Tabletops fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Dec 22, 2020 |
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i'm also leveling a necromancer, and it seems fun even if i barely have any idea what i'm doing. i'm enjoying that quests seem to mostly give rewards that make it worth bothering to do them, too. and the community has been nice to my clueless self asking questions, so that's always good. i just got level 13, soloing pulls in this froglok place (mielech?) is cool and kinda scary
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necromancer is probably my favorite caster. I went warrior/druid because I love warrioring, but I think if I had to pick a single character instead of a duo I would go necro all the way.
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trucking along on my necro at level 13, found some random friendly people to group with along the way. If anyone wants to add me and do some grouping my guys name is Kiwogrou (lets hear it for the random name generator!)
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Stonewalljack posted:Population off-peak can drop into the low teens currently (with max peak around 100). I'll take a look this weekend and report back on what happens when season 1 starts. To follow up on this, the peak population I have seen is in the 140s and the lowest I have seen is in the 40s since season started.
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I hit 41 today with my duo and I’m slowly leveling alchemy on my druid, mainly just so my warrior gets more haste. SoD is so much fun
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Hit 20 on my necro, wheres a good place to go to make use of my ability charm undead and blast them
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I believe the mielech tomb guardians turn into mummified frogloks at night
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If you’re soloing yeah but it’s the only spot that comes to mind for me
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