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/pants, closes door Finally here! Should we talk about drunken waves, tank destroyers or vikings? 
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Polyakov posted:Rising sun and tumbling bear by Richard Connaughton Sounds like a wuxia movie
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Dec 30, 2020 12:16
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That's reminds me of a good example of how tonedeaf the Soviet puppet state during the Winter War was: They immediately set about instituting a 40-hour work week and land reform - two things that the Finnish government, while not exactly a socialist paradise, had legislated into being over a decade prior  VVVVV d'oh  fixed! VVVVV
Tias fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Jan 1, 2021 |
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Jan 1, 2021 14:59
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That widow called up a bunch of other widows and harassed the army a fair bit about it, too, at least according to We Were Soldiers..
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Jan 1, 2021 15:55
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FMguru posted:Yeah. Every German tank given to Italy is a German tank not fighting in the Soviet Union. I guess that explains why Romania, Finland and others were actually furnished with German tanks and planes - they had the right enemy?
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Jan 18, 2021 07:25
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Doing some brief research looking it up on wikipedia Germany did send some tanks to Italy, but comically low amounts. The Panzer IV for instance was apparently their most-exported tank, and Italy managed to get a whopping twelve out just under 300 that were sent out to Germany's allies. Raenir Salazar posted:Italy did send something like 250,000 troops to fight in Russia. Good points. That has me thinking, did they receive the short end of the stick because the Germans looked down on them? We have ample evidence of this attitude, after all.
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Jan 18, 2021 10:31
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Just played Steel Panthers where I could purchase a stand-alone "Anti-Tank platoon" of 8 pairs of anti-tank men with PTRD rifles, and it had me wondering, how did the Red Army in WW2 organize their anti-tank groups? I know the rifles were supplemented with men hurling molotovs, but how and where were these units organized in relation to the normal infantry squads and platoons?
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Jan 19, 2021 15:12
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Ensign Expendable posted:Tank destroyer teams with Molotov cocktails were separate from antitank rifle squads. I did a video on the former some time ago, Military History Visualized had one on antitank rifles that I was involved with. This is awesome, thanks a lot!
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Jan 19, 2021 20:23
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I committed a.. thing. It's more a romp through battle RPG than an exercise in historical authenticity, so I can't promise you won't hate it.
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Jan 20, 2021 17:14
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Seconding and thirding Poilu. I got it for christmas and finally chewed my way through it. Great, great stuff.
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Jan 26, 2021 17:52
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Also roman dictators were elected, at least at some point in time. I'm sure others here can fill in more about that.
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Jan 29, 2021 10:50
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Nessus posted:I believe the Germans' policy for recuperations were to send the injured guy home or at least into the right area while he grew back the flesh the Bolsheviks shot off, so it would probably be straightforward to get a pragmatic estimation of how much of that was happening, even if they all kept mum. Which I doubt they would have. feedmegin posted:Also your average German citizen had a family member out on the Eastern front or knew a neighbour that did. Yes censorship existed of course but that's not watertight and anyway doesn't help when someone is home on leave. Before Stalingrad it's actually a bit more complex. Brutalization of the frontsoldats mindset on the eastern front was so extensive, that a lot of them thought they would win at some point. The nazi tropes of "weak soldiers fearing their jew commissars, rotten structure with a firm door" etc. were so well disseminated that a great deal thought they were having temporary setbacks instead of fighting a losing war. After Stalingrad, this changed completely, of course. Fish of hemp posted:Would the german people be willing to suffer drawn out trench warfare with France again? Yes. Tias fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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Feb 4, 2021 09:33
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Xiahou Dun posted:Is that a real word? I've never seen it before. Cessna posted:It appears a lot in contemporary accounts. What Cessna says. As often happens, I had lazy brain and just used my native Danish grammer instead of the German, which would be frontsoldat/e/en. White Coke posted:So were the Germans making their tank crews sit around until their particular one was repaired? Depends on when we're talking. Germany had a working reassignment structure at first, but as the war heated up you couldn't be sure you got a new tank, and tank crews being pressed into other functions was pretty common.
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Feb 5, 2021 11:39
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They were batallions under the regular Heer and SS structure. Here are a list of known pioniere unit types, and a couple of unit names: Panzer-Pionier-Bataillon (armoured pioneer battalion performing engineering tasks during an assault from manoeuvre) Sturmpionierbataillon (assault pioneer battalion performing engineering tasks during an infantry assault) Gebirgs-Pionier-Bataillon 95, a pioneer unit trained for the mountain terrain Pionier-Bataillon 233 (divisional pioneer unit) Heeres-Pionier-Bataillon 73 (Corps pioneer unit) Pioneer Battalion, Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler, Waffen-SS Pioneer Battalions, Estonian Auxiliary Police
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Feb 5, 2021 13:08
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BlueBull posted:Thanks Tias, much appreciated. Do you have any recommendations on books for example that focus on these units? No idea, I'm afraid, I just compiled what I could google. However, given the fact that Austria is super mountainous, their soldier core would probably include more experienced mountaineers than elsewhere. I found this, but I don't know how much it focuses on organization, and how much on training and equipment: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7997147-german-pionier-1939-45
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Feb 6, 2021 12:02
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Timmy Age 6 posted:Thinking about the early days of NATO, when they integrated the West Germans, how was that received? My only knowledge of the topic comes from Tom Lehrer's bit about the Multilateral Force plan for nuclear sharing which is hardly, um, the most contextualized source. If an exercise slotted a German unit in next to a British or an American one, was there a lot of side-eying in case of Dr. Strangelove-like saluting reflexes, or did those exercises take place enough years after the fact that there weren't as many worries about grudges coming into play? Unbelievable amounts - well, any amount would be unbelievable in a sane world, but huge amounts - of resources were allocated to rehabilitating the Wehrmact by allied governments because they needed to court the west German bundeswehr during the cold war, to the point where Eisenhower himself signed a declaration saying that the German soldier did not lose his honour in WW2. Conveniently, blame for the massive war crimes were diverted to either the SS or sometimes nowhere at all, and the willful revisionism of (among others) US army historicans of the Wehrmact plays a large part in the 'clean wehrmact' mythos still perpetuated today.
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Feb 8, 2021 08:50
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Milhist Thread: that combination worked out very well. For the monsters, that is.
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Feb 8, 2021 10:14
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We're already learning that the formerly mythic state of "too much kimchi" really exists :o Fascinating! What was the best about being there, and what was the worst? Recognizing that he might not want to answer the latter, of course.
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Feb 8, 2021 10:31
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Tulip posted:2. Similar to a real world threat but with a significant twist. Mostly I'm thinking about things like Ogres that are both large and intelligent - I'd call this a fairly significant twist because a lot of the anti-elephant tactics rest on the fact that elephants are much worse behaved in combat than even horses, and my fantasy intuition is that it's not really reasonable that an ogre can be defeated by basically scaring it into either running off the field or back through its own forces. Not super interesting? Depends on the ogre, doesn't it? 40K Ogryns are hilarious for the fact that they are both super religious, afraid of the dark and also realle dense. Your classic dim but courageous giant would be a terrifying opponent for sure. zoux posted:Well at least people aren't directly purchasing commissions or raising regiments and proclaiming themselves colonels anymore. I don't know about the service academies, but in Europe it's a problem. Higher leadership in the Brit army is still very much a class thing today, as you're expected to buy very expensive dress poo poo like the correct sword or membership of a given mess to be in the in group.
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Feb 9, 2021 09:08
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Can we talk about Finnish uniforms 1939-1945? I'm about to paint some war dolls and I can't really work out the right shade of gray/blue for Finnish winter uniforms - so any kind of contemporary colour documentation would be neat. Thanks!
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Feb 15, 2021 14:53
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Loezi posted:oodles of awesome This is great, thanks a lot!
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Feb 15, 2021 16:17
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SerthVarnee posted:Oh I forgot to ask this: Hej danerøv! Se: Tejning, Hængerøv, Døgenigt, Skruebrækker osv. bare i en militær kontekst. Folk der opfattes som, via dovenskab, kujonagtighed eller rang, har lov at bruge tid bag frontlinjen og lave ingenting. Det er lidt et paradoks, siden hver frontsoldat har brug for 5-10 guys bag linjen der sørger for mad, ammo, ildstøtte osv. men nu finder menneskets lyst til at skyde skylden på andre jo altid en vej 
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Feb 16, 2021 10:41
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Cessna posted:Yeah - I have no experience with them, but that should make my list. Isn't there a case where the Luftwaffe equips their best fighter ace with the newest iteration of the Me (or maybe 190) and he is clowned on by a P-51 and writes a super angry review where he says German planes are inferiour? It's in Soldaten I think.
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Feb 18, 2021 14:20
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MILHIST QUIZ TIME: MY GIRLFRIEND gets the engineers union periodical, which had this find in it:    Dude got it from his dad who was at the Danish school of naval artillery, and they figure it's from at least the 1900 hundreds. A later editorial found out what it was and what it was used for, but can you tell? 
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Feb 20, 2021 10:51
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SubG posted:It's definitely not a slide rule--in order to be a slide rule you need at least two of: stator, slide, cursor (and what we classically think of as a slide rule has all three). Well done! It's a 'measuring block/stave' for cannon loads! L is for 'ladning' or charge, and the rest are weight/caliber and type of cannon 
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Feb 21, 2021 09:22
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Anarchists Cookbook had advice on filing bullets to increase damage, which always seemed risky to me, and I know nothing about guns.
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Feb 22, 2021 12:45
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Gort posted:Likewise, but I'd assume that if doing stuff like that was actually worthwhile, they'd do it at the factory instead of leaving it to Joe Schmoe and his screwdriver. The assumption given was that the state probably did it already with their own goons, and you'd just level the playing field.
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Feb 22, 2021 13:07
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Yeah, the Danish military has everything like that, for example tube, 150mil shell, for the firing of, my favourite being: Knife, killing 
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Feb 23, 2021 15:33
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White Coke posted:Can you elaborate? Not an American, and someone else can probably elaborate but afaik the Ordnance dept was in charge of arming and equipping the army until at least WW1 but probably later. It figures that it'd be on a piece of army kit.
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Feb 25, 2021 12:08
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When? During the continuation war it had T-34s and KV-1s.
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Mar 5, 2021 14:49
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A lot of the stuff portrayed in generation kill is also mentioned in Nate Fick's biography One Bullet Away, as it portrays his platoon. It's a good read, he's a kind of goony guy who really just wants to be the best he can be and find out what war is like.
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Mar 22, 2021 09:18
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Another thing to keep in mind with regards to Desert Storm is that certain soviet equipment either didn't have trained operators needed to work, or wasn't engaged for some other reason. For example, we know that the Iraqi forces on paper had access to decent soviet jammers, but these weren't put into play. All that, though, is kinda moot with the amount of allied firepower coming in, as Cessna says.
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Mar 30, 2021 19:16
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Scratch Monkey posted:I think the name commonly used is "the Gulf War" Here (northern europe) the 'First Gulf War' is commonly used to distinguish it from the latter invasion of Iraq.
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Mar 31, 2021 11:49
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Bremer was an ideological hothead who thought you could open liberal art colleges and give every Iraqi a credit card (in a nation where he couldn't secure electricity). He never got around to comparing historicities, and wouldn't have learned anything if he did.
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Mar 31, 2021 19:57
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Imperial Life in the Emerald city by P. Chandrasekaran, who saw a lot of this poo poo from inside the green zone, is very much worth a look as well.
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Mar 31, 2021 22:32
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Siivola posted:Couching also means the butt of the spear is somewhere between the dudes behind you, and you can’t tell if you're about to jab someone in the nads. Those guys!? They have primary period sources. Regards and qq, A viking reenactor   But no seriously, we have very little idea of how folks from a almost exclusively oral historian tradition fought, and experimental archeology is almost as good as the real deal to us. It really doesn't make any sense to make certain claims about how the vikings fought because how the gently caress would we know, really. E: I realize litterate cultures have fought the vikings and given some accounts, but I shouldn't have to tell anyone with historical training how little that is to go by.
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Apr 2, 2021 13:59
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As someone who reenacted and who may or may not have rioted, don't charge a shieldwall. Best case you're repulsed and may get targeted while you rel - Worst case they let you in and cripple you with clubs.
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Apr 2, 2021 17:35
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Some uncomfortable self-awareness going on with the size of the reservation..
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Apr 7, 2021 07:07
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No fair, their country is bigger  (and also they didn't send all their officers in hiding in a neighbouring country.. and also probably would commit all their forces intead of a speedbump of conscript kids, so they could save face and say they fought)
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zoux posted:Here's one, what's the stupidest way a head-of-state or monarch has died in combat Sweyn III of Denmark was murdered by peasants when his horse was sucked into a bog, which sounds stupid to you but is just tuesday in Denmark.
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Apr 21, 2021 13:28
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