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GyroNinja posted:The real "winner" is probably the 1976 Buccaneers, who were shut out 5 times, had only 3 games within a single score, and lost 9 games by three or more scores. They still hold the record for the worst point differential in league history at -287, which means they lost each game by an average of 20.5 points. Sure, they only went 0-14 instead of 0-16, but they did lose the first 10 games of their next season, which makes for the longest losing streak in NFL history that can't be blamed on WW2. also when they finally won a game it was so embarrassing for the saints that heads rolled e: quote:The Saints were 11-point favorites before the game,[5] and fans booed as the Buccaneers scored. "Eleven years I've supported this franchise!" one shouted, adding, "With all this money I've spent on this lousy team I could have bought some land in Colombia and raised pot". Losing to a team with a 0-26 losing streak was so humiliating that safety Tom Myers said, "We've been made the laughingstocks of the business ... I'm too embarrassed to say that I play for the team that got beat by Tampa Bay". Said head coach Hank Stram, "We're all very ashamed of what happened today. Ashamed for our people, for our fans, the organization, everybody. It is my worst coaching experience". Team owner John Mecom said during the loss that the Saints "is a poorly coached team",[6] and Stram was fired January 28, 1978. quote:Before the game, John McKay had read the team an article in which Saints’ quarterback Archie Manning stated that it would be disgraceful to lose to Tampa Bay. Inspired by the statements, the Buccaneer defense yelled, "It's disgraceful! It's disgraceful!" at him as the clock wound down.[107] Saints coach Hank Stram was so outraged at the defeat he allegedly ordered the game film burned. Vertical Lime fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Dec 14, 2020 |
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wandler20 posted:I think that game yesterday broke my step dad's brain (Vikings fan so probably already broke, poor guy). He said he'd still take Bailey over the Bucs kicker who has missed 2 FGs all year. Something about the 6th best kicker in NFL history. Nah, because at least this way he knows what he’s getting, why bother with hope? Lol j/k, doesn’t matter who we get they’ll always miss, it is the Way
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NattyBo posted:Football Team Defense could be a bad matchup if we make the playoffs. Will be interesting to see what we can do vs Seattle this weekend. He's going to line up across from a backup right tackle. Russ is going to experience the "victory wine" dril tweet.
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shirts and skins posted:He's going to line up across from a backup right tackle. Russ is going to experience the "victory wine" dril tweet. Wait, are you talking about Cedric O. vs Chase Young? *tuggs collar theatrically* hoo boy
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I was pretty happy about the Dolphins being competitive against the Chiefs but god loving dammit: https://twitter.com/GhostOfAdamGase/status/1338551216327045121 I knew they got hosed on some of the non-calls but I didn't realize it was that bad.
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SalTheBard posted:Broncos - 5-8 The Pats have as many wins against teams over 500 as the Steelers do lol Of course they also got shithoused by SF and didn't even show up to the stadium to play Denver 
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Catfish Noodlin posted:I was pretty happy about the Dolphins being competitive against the Chiefs but god loving dammit: This is the kind of thing that's been happening all season to every team.
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Catfish Noodlin posted:I was pretty happy about the Dolphins being competitive against the Chiefs but god loving dammit: I've said it before, but the NFL has either let refereeing quality slip to the point that it feels like teams are getting hosed constantly or they are using refs to put thumbs on the scale in some games to try to drive various goals and narratives. I know the most likely and reasonable explanation is the former by a long shot, but I would be absolutely unsurprised if someone came out with evidence of the latter.
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Yeah, there were almost 23 offensive holding calls per team last year and we're currently at 12.3. The Chiefs lead the league with 20 this year, to the Jaguars 37 last year. The Chiefs are going ham because they know it's not being called. wilderthanmild posted:I've said it before, but the NFL has either let refereeing quality slip to the point that it feels like teams are getting hosed constantly or they are using refs to put thumbs on the scale in some games to try to drive various goals and narratives. This is what the NFL wants. The refs could call as much offensive holding as you want, but don't because teams didn't have training camps this year, and offense is way more popular to watch then defense.
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Kalli posted:The Chiefs lead the league with 20 this year, to the Jaguars 37 last year. The Chiefs are going ham because they know it's not being called. Also because they can't pass block for poo poo and no one wants to be responsible for getting Mahomes killed. e: On the bright side they are also pretty terrible at run blocking! To be fair they're missing 2 of their better guys due to a Covid opt out and injury. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Dec 14, 2020 |
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I get that you need to let some holding happen to keep games watchable but they should be calling the choke hold poo poo every time.
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The nfl told the refs to stop calling holding so much, so they did. Which means when holding gets called is now as subjective as when pass interference gets called. Which means fans get to get angry when it inevitably benefits the good/media favorites and harms the opposite. Its the same story as always, nfl just sucking rear end.
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Hil has had 200 yards and 4 touchdowns called back on holds.
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If o-line holding isn't going to be called, then neither should defensive holding on route runners be called.
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Figures Cowboys starting tackles and QB all die in the season where holding is legalized. Tyron Smith has never committed an illegitmate act of holding, and I will die on this hill.
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Finger Prince posted:If o-line holding isn't going to be called, then neither should defensive holding on route runners be called. Holding/PI should legitimately be redefined in the off-season because it is ridiculous how such gigantic calls (kills or saves drives respectively) are so subjective that even fans and commentators can be utterly confused when they get called. At least ticky tack roughing calls have a purpose - to prevent injury. A ticky tack holding call doesn't do that and just tips game balances in one teams favor. And while I'm adding to my wishlist of things that won't happen, offsetting penalties are dumb and they should just chip the ball so they know where to spot it.
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really queer Christmas posted:Holding/PI should legitimately be redefined in the off-season because it is ridiculous how such gigantic calls (kills or saves drives respectively) are so subjective that even fans and commentators can be utterly confused when they get called. yeah at least change it to 5 yards instead of 10 for offensive holding . you might even see it called more that way, but maybe thats another problem
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The problem with chipping the ball is unless you also chip every part of the player's body that contacts the turf, then you still don't know where to spot the ball. That said, yeah, PI should be a 15 yard penalty, and defensive holding shouldn't be an automatic first down. *Maybe* keep an egregious PI penalty for when defensive players get completely owned and just plow into a dude in the endzone.
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Kalli posted:That said, yeah, PI should be a 15 yard penalty, and defensive holding shouldn't be an automatic first down. Defensive holding = 10 yards but no automatic first down is an idea I've seen that I could get behind. Do the same for illegal contact.
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Grittybeard posted:Defensive holding = 10 yards but no automatic first down is an idea I've seen that I could get behind. Do the same for illegal contact. Eliminate illegal contact entirely, keep defensive holding as a 5 yard penalty that only results in a first down if the 5 yards are enough for a first down. Made offensive holding also 5 yards
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The automatic first down on defensive holding is a loving killer. Get rid of it and make it a spot foul with a max of 10 yards.
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Kalli posted:The problem with chipping the ball is unless you also chip every part of the player's body that contacts the turf, then you still don't know where to spot the ball. Chip the ball and sync the data stream with the same canonical time source as the replay cameras so you can match up the ball position with video where it might be obscured.
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Catfish Noodlin posted:I was pretty happy about the Dolphins being competitive against the Chiefs but god loving dammit: I don’t know the exact definition of holding (and tbf I’m not sure the NFL does either) but beside the 3rd where the Dolphin defender very clearly has an O-lineman draped around his neck I don’t see how these are as egregious as the tweet wants to portray them. Make it a gif or something that actually shows the action instead of a grainy screenshot of flailing limbs at least.
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Nodoze posted:Get rid of OPI as a penalty Terrible idea.
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fsif posted:Pass rushers should have to count to three before they start rushing, or at least yell "BLITZ" if they do so sooner. What counting system? (number)-apple, or (number)-Mississippi?
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