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Probably Magic posted:How many NFL owners would get Donald Sterling'd if the NFL had an actually strong players' union? Jerry Jones routines has pictures of him come out with strippers and the like and he's been known to keep notorious porn stars or whores on the payroll to help sign free agents. But I don't think he's out dropping hard rs.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2021 01:50 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 17:45 |
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AsInHowe posted:excuse me, what
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2021 03:36 |
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Good for Watson.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2021 21:15 |
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pasaluki posted:That account has got to be fake/troll It's caserio's burner.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2021 21:50 |
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molestrios posted:Well that and he actually wants to play football and not use it as his own personal platform for hyperwoke bullshit. Huge difference. is this an rg3 rereg or lordwafflebeard?
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2021 22:42 |
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FizFashizzle posted:Kaep gets like all of the blame for a team imploding around him due mostly to an owner getting into a dick measuring contest with the head coach. wasn't he hurt in his last year as well?
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2021 23:06 |
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Ehud posted:all this Kaep talk made me look up that playoff game against the packers The Crabtree receptions in this reminded me that Aqib Talib stole his chain multiple times and all Crabs could do about it was pout.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2021 23:07 |
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the texans FO is loving toxic as fuuuuuuuuuck.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2021 21:51 |
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The reason they’re trickling cases is to pressure for settlement. The prayer for the minimum amount in controversy is immediately countered when they say “although only asking for the minimum, victims have also suffered emotional distress damages.” It looks like Watson did some things AND it looks like buzbee is trying to force Watson to settle. Also, note that none of the allegations have been tested. I can put whatever I want in a complaint. I would have attached screenshots of the texts/IG DMs to the complaint, personally.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 12:28 |
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I don’t recall if the suit asked for attorney’s fees and don’t know if they’re available in Texas for civil assault, however costs (such as filing fees) are almost always recoverable by the winning party. The second complaint is mostly copy/paste job and, unless there’s something I’m not seeing, also has no attached evidence in support. We need to get some someone familiar with TX law in here to see if these complaints would stand up to a motion to dismiss. I don’t know how strict Texas is on the matter. Note, I’m not saying you must attach all of your evidence to a complaint, but if you have something already, it makes it much easier to withstand a motion to dismiss to have it attached. A motion to dismiss is not supposed to look outside the complaint for information. They might have trouble using the texts/DMs at that stage to avoid dismissal.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 12:43 |
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I don't think Buzbee is getting people to make stuff up. He does seem like he's trying to pressure Watson into settling, though. I also don't know Texas rules on pseudonymous filing so it's weird to me that the plaintiff is listed as Jane Doe instead of named, but that may not be an oddity in Texas for this particular cause of action.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 13:01 |
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Eifert Posting posted:We need this elicit a Texas civil attorney from another message board to come in here and break it down. I just can't get over how much this dude is acting like it's some spectacle or stunt. Like I know that a ton of people think that's how lawyers always behave but you very rarely interact with one professionally that actually does that sort of stuff. Like some weird amalgam of Saul Goodman and Rudy Giuliani. There are a handful of TFF goons that are TX lawyers and will probably poke their head in at some point. I'm also probably wrong about everything because I don't know TX law or procedure.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 13:18 |
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I can't say if they should or should not have been attached to the complaint in Texas. Texas seems to have some restrictions on what can be attached to a pleading, so there may be nothing untoward on that front. I wouldn't draw an inference from the lack of attached evidence because I don't really know the scope of Texas rule 59.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 14:50 |
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I doubt these lawsuits are unfounded. There is some bit of truth in what has occurred. I would not be surprised at all if Watson or any other athlete routinely hit up people on instagram looking for a hookup. I'm sure there is actual prostitution on instagram as well. We'll just have to wait and see for more info.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 14:52 |
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FizFashizzle posted:How do you think Jerry found Throatzilla? After looking into TX procedure a bit more, the texts not being attached is routine. The complaints should stand up to a motion to dismiss, and we'll see the full amount of evidence whenever they get to summary judgment proceedings in six months to a year.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 14:57 |
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fsif posted:I guess I'm asking what specifically Buzbee could falsely allege in a complaint without facing serious repercussions (disbarment, libel suit, whatever). Does he at least have to prove to anyone that the accusers exist, or can he just Jane Doe out a dozen more accusers from his imagination? I don't think Buzbee is falsifying anything. The more I think about this, the more I think that Watson probably solicits people via instagram on a routine basis and generally gets what he expects. This is probably not all that uncommon for NFL players or other celebrities. I'm curious to see what was actually said in the conversations and how heavily implied the prostitution aspect is implied by Watson.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 15:01 |
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Get hosed, Deshaun!
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 15:13 |
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dirty shrimp money posted:Waiting on that "Texans release embattled QB Deshaun Watson" tweet I wonder if he has a conduct clause in his contract that would allow them to void guaranteed money.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 22:39 |
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FizFashizzle posted:This was the source of the problem.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2021 01:15 |
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Diva Cupcake posted:I believe one of the complaints specifically mentions the woman isn’t yet licensed so maybe it’s an issue of requiring a license to be called a massage therapist. I dunno. It’s more likely that there is a circle of prostitution that we are unaware of generally on instagram and there were some crossed wires.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2021 12:08 |
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Ehud posted:Escorts on social media has been a thing for a while, my friend. I know that. I mean that Watson is not alone in this, and if he’s doing it, others are as well.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2021 12:47 |
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:At what point here does law enforcement consider opening a criminal investigation? Do they need one of the victims to press charges or can they just unilaterally do that? Buzbee said he has been contacted by law enforcement.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2021 17:34 |
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tarbrush posted:I think the worry at this point is that his scuminess might comprise the case? By not invoking the police correctly or some such? Police don’t need anything from buzbee except the names of his clients. Everything from 2020 is still well within the statute of limitations for prosecution. I dunno if there is an SOL for sexual battery in Texas.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2021 13:34 |
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FizFashizzle posted:Has Watson put these allegations to rest today yet? I'm a little shocked he hasn't settled with everyone. There's no defense to this. Watson should not play another snap and should face just ice for his heinous crimes. He should have been put on the commissioner's exempt list last week.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 18:15 |
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wyoak posted:They eventually got Weinstein on criminal charges, this looks kinda similar at this point We have seen only the complaint and a couple of messages. There is likely a hell of a lot more evidence that we won't see for some time. There may be more than enough for criminal charges. We just don't know right now.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 18:16 |
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Intruder posted:I'm glad he didn't settle. if he had then none of this would have become public Technically the only thing that is public is a couple dozen anonymous accusations. None of them have been challenged, and no evidence has been presented. If Watson settled with them all today, this all basically disappears behind a pile of NDAs. I hope more evidence comes to light and that criminal charges follow.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 18:19 |
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FizFashizzle posted:I think it makes more sense he wasn’t offered a settlement, and just lied to try to look good for a second longer. It's very possible that he got a few hundred thousand per victim offer when the number was 4. That would be common, and we might even see some of the settlement documents if they were issued pursuant to whatever Texas' version of an offer of judgment is. In Florida, for example, I send a settlement offer pursuant to certain statute and rules of procedure. If the other party accepts, the case is done. If they reject the offer and I beat the settlement offer via some future settlement or judgment by 25% or more, I get to collect attorney's fees on top of the final amount.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 18:23 |
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Intruder posted:Even if he settles now and it all gets hushed up everyone has heard about it now even if we don't get all the details Absolutely, but he also has a defense that these were just anonymous unchallenged accusations. The NFL won't have a problem with him playing, and criminal charges will be hard to bring if the witnesses are bound by NDA from complaining to police. I hope he faces charges and the victims are made whole.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 18:26 |
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Intruder posted:Going back to the idea that the Texans org is scum, this whole thing makes me think more about how they fired their head of HR who was by many accounts one of the best if not the best in the league at her job. A sign they knew something and needed someone who would be more willing to try to spin this? I don't think the Texans had any idea this was coming. If they did, they would have traded him so that he was someone else's problem.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 18:27 |
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really queer Christmas posted:gently caress you Agreed. Don't be McMagic. No one should be blaming anyone here but Watson. He's a monster and serial sexual-abuser.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 18:28 |
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wyoak posted:it sorta seems like he was offered a settlement when there were 'only' a few accusers, his camp rejected it, but the fact that it went public gave more victims the impetus to come forward and now there's no putting the cat back in the bag I agree - he likely doesn't have the money to settle right now even if he wanted to.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 18:30 |
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Intruder posted:If this is true then he's an idiot or his reps are idiots because there's no way he could have really believed that no additional accusers would come forward once it became public if he's done it so many times He probably still doesn't see what he did as wrong. He's likely been abusing women since he was a teenager without consequence. because: Intruder posted:Attitudes toward sexual abuse definitely haven't changed in the years since Roethlisberger's accusations Yeah. This is tragically true. Powerful men are are still monsters with impunity.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 18:33 |
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Nodoze posted:It depends how bad the compensation per person is, but isn't it plausible to set up a per month settlement payment(s) vs one lump sum Settlements can be whatever they can agree to them being. Even with payments I don't think Watson could afford to pay out seven figures per.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 18:35 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Yeah there needs to be a deep dive into what he was up to pre Covid and having to seek out women online. He's almost certainly been pressuring girls into handies since he was in high school.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 20:55 |
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Why isn't Watson on the commissioner's exempt list yet?
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2021 03:26 |
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wooger posted:Anyone else wondering if Watsons deciding he wanted out of Houston was affected by his own knowledge of these incidents, fears about potential legal trouble or discussion/rumours about these issues within the Texans front office? Watson had absolutely no idea this was a big deal or unlawful behavior as recently as last week. One of his victims said the incident occurred less than three weeks ago. This poo poo has absolutely nothing to do with trading or anything. The Texans aren't involved, and Watson couldn't have imagined that this could be a bad thing for him. He's done this hundreds of times in his life.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2021 18:17 |
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Him taking steps to keep them quiet indicates that he knew it was potentially unlawful. Doubt it had anything to do with trade demands though yeah. Nah. He just said "don't tell anyone about this." That's standard celebrity stuff. They're going to ask everyone they interact with to say nothing. He did this with a woman in Atlanta, Georgia on March 3. Someone doesn't behave in this fashion if they think they may actually face consequences. Diva Cupcake posted:Charles Robinson also said that the women are from multiple states and not just Houston area. That's correct. He assaults people in this fashion wherever he's at or flies them into Houston.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2021 18:32 |
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:I can now picture a situation where Watson doesn't ever play in the NFL again and the Texans get nothing lol. Inshallah.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2021 19:23 |
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sweet thursday posted:Waiting the better part of a week for Rusty to come up with this: He’s probably paying $600-800/hr.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2021 00:12 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 17:45 |
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Grittybeard posted:Yeah I knew about discovery, I just didn't know if that happened immediately or if it was common to wait for a judge to tell you to do it. There's a schedule that they'll have to follow. Right now Watson has to answer the complaint first. It is also rare for cases to be filed in pseudonymous fashion. Typically it's only when minors are involved. When I asked some TX lawyers, they said that it isn't prohibited but is not favored by the texas rules of procedure.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2021 15:04 |