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deadseedinside
Jul 6, 2018

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Thank you Tofu for returning thread to the rightful tark goons

join the discord

get tk'd by people you know

loving cultists better be in this wipe with woods expansion

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deadseedinside
Jul 6, 2018

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Stux posted:

one thing to note with rushing tech in interchange as a new player: everyone else does too and most of them know the map and how to kill you. its worthwhile learning some stash runs (interchange, customs and especially shoreline are all really good for this) for a more relaxed pace, and with the multiple buffs to safe loot tables safe runs as well once youre a bit more comfortable with the game. now that hatchet running doesnt exist and FIR is a thing running interchange as a new player is going to be pretty brutal because that map is lethal.

running interchange is probably least lethal map to get rich on

deadseedinside
Jul 6, 2018

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Stux posted:

interchange is a very vertical map and on eu at least is squad central, and the tech stores in particular see a lot of foot traffic. its def a lot quieter to run around outside or around the outskirts on customs or even shoreline and its probably a better choice for new players to get their bearings on while building up a bank. if you're going in with other people then sure, but a new player running solo, thats a really deadly map.

exactly. squads don't move anywhere near as fast as 1 man with a pistol. You will always beat them to the goods. Interchange is one of the best places for a solo to wipe a 5man too.

not sure what the vertical part affects when you're just sprinting for the gold. Looting stashes is profitable but a slower (and significantly more boring way to make bank). Shoreline is easily best money map, but that really only shines once you get some keys on you. Even just for straight loot running, the interchange garage is a non-stop 10min runthrough that will consistently net you 500k per raid and often more.


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theres a pretty big gap between starting the game fresh and getting to the bitcoin machine though, including a lot of hideout upgrades that can cost a decent amount of money. with the FIR changes stashes and safes are a lot more reliable for actual spendable resources early on, especially for newer players, and you can often do them while doing the earliest quests. you dont want to be running interchange at level 1 when your tasks are customs focused, but you still need to make money.

doing the initial power grind to BTC miner will net you forever income and float you for the rest of the game so you don't have to skulk around the edges of maps just hitting stashes and avoiding the fun parts of the game.

deadseedinside
Jul 6, 2018

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sum posted:

What's your route for Interchange garages? I almost always just stay out of them.

you're missing out. there are like 20~ weapons crates and other spawns all through there and it doesn't matter which side you spawn from the route is pretty much the same. Oli -> Idea or Idea -> Oli. I think we have maps on the discord but it's easiest to just do a runthrough with someone to point them out to you.

You also hardly ever run into anyone when you're doing it so it's just spawn in, walk straight through picking up all the good and then walking out the other side to extract.

deadseedinside
Jul 6, 2018

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Stux posted:

and then they pop you on the way out and we live in FIR times. we're talking new players theyre not going to wipe anything.


its an extra thing to be aware of at a time when a new player is learning the basics of how the game works. removing that until youre more comfortable with simply moving around and looting and dealing with scavs helps with the huge learning curve. looting stashes is very safe and can be done in conjunction with the early game tasks, it keeps you on the map for longer so you can get more acclimatised to it and learn the flow of the game, and it keeps your combat situations more manageable. youll meet people far less often and it'll usually just be another solo player, who probably isnt extremely good at the game because theyre also avoiding the players rushing for the pvp hot spots. straight loot running isnt really something new players should be doing if they can avoid it, loot running alongside tasks and scav hunting is where you want to find your feet with the game.


again for a new player attempting a power grind to a btc miner is going to make you hate the game probably. its much better to start slow as theres a lot to take in in the game. tech running for brand new players was a lot more viable when that gpu you found was cash no matter what, when its "you can use it in the miner eventually" which is itself locked behind multiple trader levels and a lot of expensive hideout upgrades that are going to take a new player far longer to hit its not as useful, especially when money is a common concern for people starting out. in comparison running stashes lets you leave raid alive more often, and safes give a much more reliable income from stuff that doesnt need fir to get you cash and doesnt need your hideout already setup to the point you can use gpus.

have to consider what new players not being chaperoned are going to come up against and how much there is to take in at first.

lol

tbh these sound like maybe "you" problems and not universal issues. We've done sherpa for many a goon for many a year now and you make it sound harder than it is.

There is absolutely a vertical learning curve for tarkov and the people that tend to enjoy and stick with the game are the ones that got into it for that exact reason.

Extract camping is VERY largely exaggerated and is literally like a 1-2% of your raids occurrence and even those you don't know if they were just arriving there at the same time or heard you so stopped to ambush. Either way.

Getting good at the game requires playing the game and just skulking around the edges of the map is a way to get bored and stop playing because it's boring. The best way to learn the game aspects are to throw yourself into the meat grinder and get over gear fear right off the hop. Literally none of it matters and it's almost impossible to actually go broke in tarkov even if you're are terrible at the game (which everyone is). Running stashes IS just loot running and will not actually help you progress through the lovely early stages of PMC evolution. Getting your hands dirty and not worrying about dying will elevate you 100 times faster and get you farther than ratting around the peripherals by yourself endlessly. Fwiw, i prefer to do most of my questing and whatnot solo simply because i find it easier to actually get poo poo done and not get your poo poo pushed in by 5mans. Solo you are always in control of when to go, when to wait, when to shoot and when to run. Solo play and Squad play are very different beasts in tarkov but either way or a combination can make you better, faster, stronger and richer quicker.

ATTN NEW PLAYERS: Join the discord community and you will have unlimited knowledge and sperginess at your fingertips to benefit from and no matter your playstyle we can help you to know what is worth doing and not doing and the best way to do whatever it is you're trying to do. Barring that, we will also all happily rain loot, weapons, armor, quest items down on you just to give you a leg up (to then piss all over pubbies and assert your dominance)


and this is all excellent advice:

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

Tips for new folks, from a guy who has only been playing since mid-August:

1) Think you heard something? You did. Don't ever assume it was nothing. It wasn't.
2) Not worried about that noise because it's just a scav? It's not.
3) He's always got a buddy, no matter who "he" is.
4) Even if he doesn't have a buddy, somebody else heard your gunshots and they are coming.

With these 4 simple rules committed to memory you will avoid a large percentage of the kinds of deaths I repeatedly experienced when I was new.

there is always someone watching from a bush and waiting an extra few seconds before looting will save your life more often than not. GREED is the #1 biggest killer in Tarkov. Get over gear fear and resist the loot tunnel vision and you will already be above the average player (and always use the best ammo you can afford. It seems expensive, but it is an investment that will always pay off in the long run)

deadseedinside
Jul 6, 2018

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LGD posted:


also doesn't look like you can use the holiday 2020 gift, but I'd assume there will be something forthcoming in the next few days

yeah it's always been a new year's gift so speculating we didn't get it with the new one a week away. Can't have us getting double gear now....

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deadseedinside
Jul 6, 2018

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hakimashou posted:

Some of you guys seem to have your finger right on the pulse of this stuff wonder if you'd share your experiences:

What do you think made this game, which I believe has been the number 1 game on "twitch" "TTV" so attractive to the extremist/gamer "twitch" community, the vital financial lifeline for those people?

The un-PC russian developers with their unwavering commitment against representing women and people of color? The no-holds-barred obsessive fetishized enthusiasm for gun minutia? Pandering to the community with 'memes' like "kek"? Widespread use of "incel" jargon like "chad"? The big role for "crypto" in the game?

The developers even feature links to "twitch" "TTV" stuff on the launcher for the game, they are clearly cultivating this poo poo!

i'm with this guy. preach it.

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