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# ¿ May 21, 2024 00:26 |
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Harry Lloyd! He's really good, he also played a villain in the first season of Game of Thrones and was very good in that too.
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2020 08:01 |
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I've said it before but I love that the Simms Master is SUCH a dick that he literally murdered a later incarnation of himself simply so he could win an argument.... with himself. I used to joke for years that there should be a story where two Masters end up scheming against each other and somehow the earlier version wins... and then Moffat only went and did it, the madman.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2020 02:17 |
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Delgado Master: Possibly killed by Daleks? Beevers Master: Possessed a Trakenite body Tipple Master: Killed by Daleks, turned into a loving snake Snake Master: Possessed a human body Roberts Master: Shoved into the Eye of Harmony (then did some Big Finish) Macqueen Master: ???? Jacobi Master: Shot by his apprentice with her Chan and her Tho, driving him INSANE! Simm Master: Stabbed to death by a future incarnation Gomez Master: Shot to death by a prior incarnation Dhawan Master: Last seen at ground zero exposure to a device that kills all life (and thus he is presumed alive and well). There are some Big Finish Masters in there too but I'm not caught up on those yet. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Dec 30, 2020 |
# ¿ Dec 30, 2020 03:19 |
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Davros1 posted:HOW DARE YOU FORGET JACOBI MASTER I am a wretch and a fool
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2020 03:21 |
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Edward Mass posted:Hey! I freaked out over the time difference a few hours ago and thought,"Oh poo poo is there a new Doctor Who on in a couple hours!?! " and then it turned out no, I would have to wait a whole extra day, which I am confident is the LONGEST anybody has ever had to wait for a new Doctor Who ever
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 00:23 |
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Davros1 posted:2021 will be the 25th anniversary of the TV movie. Stupid goddamn linear passage of time!
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 05:10 |
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Open Source Idiom posted:Also there are a bunch of amnesia episodes. Well yes, they are 8th Doctor stories after all! Anyway, goddamn FINALLY some new Doctor Who
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 19:41 |
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SiKboy posted:I almost totally forgot this was on tonight! And I'm really struggling to remember how the last series ended. The Master told the Doctor some lies, then got killed forever (he'll be back soon). Edit: That's a good explanation for why they're the same design as Resolution! Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Jan 1, 2021 |
# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 19:49 |
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SiKboy posted:Is that the first non-moffat appearance of a weeping angel? (meaning not an episode he wrote or was show runner for) I think so, yes. Still determined that those tally marks on the wall are for the number of minutes she's been locked up
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 19:57 |
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"I forgot you were here"
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 20:01 |
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Haha, even the evil billionaire knows this was a terrible idea.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 20:05 |
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The TARDIS could have redecorated in the meantime
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 20:09 |
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SiKboy posted:Who is an expert on weapons technology AND cloning? And we're back with the backpack DALEK I see. I liked how that worked in Resolution, and this is basically a sequel so I'm okay with that. Just hope it doesn't become the default thing now.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 20:10 |
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I'm a little confused on the timeline here, did the Dalek start up the Osaka facility BEFORE the guy revealed it to Robertson and was told to destroy it?
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 20:19 |
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SiKboy posted:He said something about connecting it to something and it recognised systems, so maybe it did it online then? I guess? Yeah, unless I missed something specifically referencing it I'm assuming this must have been what happened. I do like the idea that it was already pulling some bullshit well before anybody else even knew it existed. Ironically the episode has been slow paced and then the "Security Drones" get spread out across the country in like 10 seconds of being introduced to the public.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 20:22 |
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The_Doctor posted:So the Doctor just sat in prison for 7 thousand years without doing anything about it? I missed the 7000 year line, earlier she said it had been a few decades? Regardless, I don't like that it was Jack who broke her out, she was way too passive about being imprisoned and I don't buy for a second she wouldn't have been able to figure out a way to escape (or at least caused some problems for her captors). Edit: Oh yeah, there's the explanation for how the facility got built.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 20:27 |
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"The Daleks can never know I, the Doctor, am here.... so let's land on the top of the bridge where the Daleks are having their family squabble!"
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 20:36 |
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SiKboy posted:I feel like the Doctor wouldnt kill a TARDIS. Yeah that felt really odd. Also I'm trying to remember, that was Ruth's TARDIS right? I thought that was just the Doctor's TARDIS from an earlier period in her life, not an entirely different one? Or have I just completely forgotten where she got the spare from? Edit: Ryan and Graham leaving feels completely off, like it should be the culmination of an entirely different episode. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jan 2, 2021 |
# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 20:49 |
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Strom Cuzewon posted:It was a pretty good scene, and Ryan growing up and finding his place in the world seems like a decent end point for the character. But it's come completely out of left-field. Yeah, I liked that last scene between Ryan and Graham but where the hell did it come from? That whole episode felt weirdly put together, like we're just doing giant public alien invasions and mass deaths and then everything going back to normal stories again? The tone of the thing was all over the place. And somebody called John Bishop is gonna be the new companion, I have no idea who that is but looking him up he's a footballer/comedian?
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 20:59 |
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PriorMarcus posted:It disguised itself as a semi-detached house. They met in it this episode at the start. Yeah I saw all that part, I just couldn't remember where it actually came from until I read this... PriorMarcus posted:Its the Tardis she used to drop the fam off last episode. ...and remembered they were on Gallifrey in the last episode and that's where they got it from. It's been waaaaay too long between seasons.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 21:02 |
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What a weird episode, it felt like Chibnall trying to ape RTD like he used to do when he was just a writer for the show. Similar to those efforts, he still doesn't seem to quite get why RTD could make stuff like that work (in the moment at least). There were a lot of cool ideas that taken in isolation might work or you could build an episode around, but chained together it was just a jumbled mess. The Doctor was waaaaay too passive, and as a follow-up to the cliffhanger from last season it really fell flat.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2021 21:05 |
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Raccoonboy posted:silly question: dont humans know about daleks by this point?? I forget the exactly specifics but it was one of those things that got wiped from the collective memory of humankind, which makes the fact the show did a public alien invasion and mass death thing including killing the Prime Minister (again!) and then just promptly moved on so weird. Chibnall is really not at his best when he's trying to emulate RTD's big, mad, glorious exercises in excess. OldMemes posted:I was hoping from the promos that the prison break was going to be a bigger part of the episode. I have a soft spot for prison break stories, and there's a lot of things that could have been done with 13 in a prison setting aside. If she wasn't just escaping immediately, I was really hoping she was going to be a thorn in the administration's side, constantly getting out of her cell and investigating things, helping out other prisoners, playing cards with some of the guards etc. Kind of a less smug, happier version of River Song, only staying in prison so she can work out some stuff before just escaping whenever she felt like. I mean hell, look at Missy when she was 12's "prisoner". It was the most advanced and supremely inescapable cage they could make, and both of them agreed that if Missy had wanted to she could have escaped at any time. The Doctor seemingly being legitimately trapped inside felt so off.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2021 02:26 |
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Mooseontheloose posted:I kinda like Chris Noth as a 13 exclusive villan who is just a rich American prick. On paper it's a fun idea to have him as a recurring guy (plus Chris Noth is pretty cool), but the writing for how he got out of this one felt bizarre.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2021 02:28 |
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:I'm weirdly bummed that the Doctor was in prison and never broke out to go on an adventure with River. Big Finish: Oh we'll just see about that!
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2021 04:04 |
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Narsham posted:The Dalek responds that even one Dalek has sufficient neural strength to process signals from such an insignificant planet. The Doctor agrees, but says that she doubts the cut-rate electronic equipment Robertson purchased can manage the same. We zoom out to see that she and Yaz are back in GCHQ. The Doctor flips some switches, the control room equipment starts sparking, as do the drones. We see the electronic systems in the drones start shorting. The Fam and Robertson take cover, as we see the Dalek electrocuted and the equipment in the drones starts exploding. I really enjoyed your breakdown of a potentially different version of the script, but this last part in particular I loved. The Earth being saved because a rich dude was cheap and cut costs to put out a shoddy product on a ridiculously tight deadline would be kinda perfect.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2021 13:54 |
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PriorMarcus posted:It was ridiculous. I absolutely could not get over that. They look directly into the sun and then it cuts to a low angle of them standing beneath the sun.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2021 14:49 |
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OldMemes posted:I didn't think it was half as bad as some people did, and Jodie Whittaker is really good as the Doctor. The casting for the show is really, really good, and Jodie Whittaker is fantastic. The writing is what is letting everything down, and I really wish Chibnall would realize that just because he's the showrunner doesn't meant he has to write 60+ percent of every season, because with rare exceptions his writing for Who has usually been mediocre at best. Give me more episodes like It Takes You Away please. That was loving awesome.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2021 23:58 |
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And the Doctor's reaction to everybody she and her former selves so beautifully saved? Just kind of miffed and then immediately moves on to listen to more of the obvious lies the Master is telling.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2021 01:56 |
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"Who loving knows, eh? Who. loving. knows? " Oh wait, sorry that's what Tom actually said in the first take.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2021 11:59 |
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Cerv posted:https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...ntre-of-a-drama Plus all those Axos masks he has for some reason!
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 00:03 |
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Well that sucks, she's certainly not the issue with the current show. Hopefully it is just a rumor and nothing more.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 00:23 |
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Yeah, remove Chibnall, keep Jodie
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 00:47 |
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Xelkelvos posted:The biggest issue ends up being the legacy of Jodie's characterization under Chinball and how that's retained under another showrunner. Imagine her Doctor getting one last series, under a platonically good showrunner. What parts of her characterization would be considered worth keeping under their new, temporary tenure? I think her natural enthusiasm/participation in new experiences is one of her better defining traits - she's very accepting of new (to her) cultures/traditions. I also like that when she's wrong about something and realizes it, she doesn't fight or question the new information but takes it onboard. They're good characteristics for the Doctor to have and make her a good role model, and I'd be keen to see that explored by a writer/showrunner who can use them to best effect. What I would be happy to see go from her characterization is the passivity that is too often present in her stories, she needs to be more of a driving force for the show, and that's purely a writing issue and not anything to do with her performance.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 01:09 |
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I pick up my dust covered knife and fork and begin banging it on the table, as the words,"TILDA SWINTON!" again echo down the empty corridors of my "Who I want to be the new Doctor" mansion.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 01:58 |
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happyhippy posted:Easier to type I would assume. Yeah, I always have to second guess if I'm spelling Whittaker right (like right now, I double checked just to be on the safe side). Ironically, even though Baker is an incredibly easy name to remember I always called him Tom even before Colin Baker came along, and I always refer to Eccleston as such rather than Chris even though that's another surname I always find myself doublechecking. In conclusion, how I refer to various Doctors is a land of contrasts, and I am no closer to understanding why I do or don't call any of them by a specific name (or sometimes just number). I hope this helped!
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 05:32 |
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Also come on, the writers clearly have stuff like It Takes You Away in their arsenal, more of that! Hire Jamie Mathieson to write some more bonkers poo poo!
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 05:34 |
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Mooseontheloose posted:I am the only person in this thread who thinks Rosa is a good episode. That's one of the episodes that gets frequently praised!
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 06:35 |
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Man that Space Amazon episode... watching it live I was really enjoying it and then it ended and it took like 2 seconds before I went,"Wait... so it actually DID just murder that completely innocent girl and nothing happens about that/there was no twist where it only pretended?" and then I thought 2 seconds more and realized that the terrorist completely achieved his goals and then I realized the moral of the story was both,"Trust the giant corporation and it's algorithm-run management" and "You can achieve your goals through terrorism" and what the gently caress how the gently caress did that episode get made?
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2021 11:30 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 00:26 |
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This is EXACTLY how the producer/script editor dynamic ran in the latter days of Classic Who. Verbatim.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2021 01:50 |