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Silver Alicorn posted:as a species and a society we agree that life has meaning towards certain goals or ethics/morality, but meaning is a human concept and the universe mostly gets along fine without us. it's weird but I like to think about how aliens would think and it likely be very very strange i’m intrigued by those stories I suppose what i’m trying to get at isn’t from a grand meaning point of view but a very pragmatic point of view, that suffering sucks, and that I think putting life effort toward minimising it for yourself and also others benefits yourself and others and that it can lead to a better life for everyone, and in absence of meaning and purpose, striving for less suffering makes more sense than not 🤷♂️ the rest of the universe will be fine regardless but it’s us that matters to us gently caress the rest of the universe 
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Dec 31, 2020 04:25
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its true that certain beliefs whether explicitly religious or spiritual place a special significance on the human role in the world but then again a lot of them stress humility to a world that humans cant possibly understand in any context so 
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Dec 31, 2020 05:34
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Born to die / World is a gently caress
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Dec 31, 2020 07:40
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agnosticism: saying gently caress it and just coding everything in javascript
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Dec 31, 2020 08:29
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daoism: the computer that can be programmed is not the True Computer
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Dec 31, 2020 10:08
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Bored Online posted:its true that certain beliefs whether explicitly religious or spiritual place a special significance on the human role in the world but then again a lot of them stress humility to a world that humans cant possibly understand in any context so by and large the world we consider significant is entirely defined by human subjectivity though (if we assume no god etc.). if we're to understand the world in some objective way then particle physics is all that really counts, given the initial position X at time T, say something about T+1. the peak of "understanding" being to have tables of records for the movements of particles in the fusion soup of the sun, every attempt to lump this knowledge up into something being human subjectivity. we are on a pedestal in our own understanding of the universe as the only meaning possible for us to have is the one we force upon the world. it is hard to tell whether that is humble or not.
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Dec 31, 2020 11:09
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Silver Alicorn posted:at best some nugget of humanity spreads out into the stars and lives on a galactic scale for some hundred thousand years until ascending to a new existence we today cannot understand. at worst some other intelligent species might find a planet of which the inhabitants, bizarrely, decided to turn it into a second Venus. this, except the best case scenario also relies on us not finding that the cellular chemistry of life on the first extrasolar rock we can breathe on is severely toxic or electroplates your organs or something
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Dec 31, 2020 11:48
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colonizing a planet with alien life would be highly unethical. by the time we can ship people to other planets we could just live in spaceships/habitats anyway
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Dec 31, 2020 15:07
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Your Brain is not for thinking Five hundred million years ago, a tiny sea creature changed the course of history: It became the first predator. It somehow sensed the presence of another creature nearby, propelled or wiggled its way over, and deliberately ate it. This new activity of hunting started an evolutionary arms race. Over millions of years, both predators and prey evolved more complex bodies that could sense and move more effectively to catch or elude other creatures. Eventually, some creatures evolved a command center to run those complex bodies. We call it a brain. This story of how brains evolved, while admittedly just a sketch, draws attention to a key insight about human beings that is too often overlooked. Your brain’s most important job isn’t thinking; it’s running the systems of your body to keep you alive and well. According to recent findings in neuroscience, even when your brain does produce conscious thoughts and feelings, they are more in service to the needs of managing your body than you realize. And in stressful times like right now, this curious perspective on your mental life may actually help to lessen your anxieties. Much of your brain’s activity happens outside your awareness. In every moment, your brain must figure out your body’s needs for the next moment and execute a plan to fill those needs in advance. For example, each morning as you wake, your brain anticipates the energy you’ll need to drag your sorry body out of bed and start your day. It proactively floods your bloodstream with the hormone cortisol, which helps make glucose available for quick energy. Your brain runs your body using something like a budget. A financial budget tracks money as it’s earned and spent. The budget for your body tracks resources like water, salt and glucose as you gain and lose them. Each action that spends resources, such as standing up, running, and learning, is like a withdrawal from your account. Actions that replenish your resources, such as eating and sleeping, are like deposits. The scientific name for body budgeting is allostasis. It means automatically predicting and preparing to meet the body’s needs before they arise. Consider what happens when you’re thirsty and drink a glass of water. The water takes about 20 minutes to reach your bloodstream, but you feel less thirsty within mere seconds. What relieves your thirst so quickly? Your brain does. It has learned from past experience that water is a deposit to your body budget that will hydrate you, so your brain quenches your thirst long before the water has any direct effect on your blood. This budgetary account of how the brain works may seem plausible when it comes to your bodily functions. It may seem less natural to view your mental life as a series of deposits and withdrawals. But your own experience is rarely a guide to your brain’s inner workings. Every thought you have, every feeling of happiness or anger or awe you experience, every kindness you extend and every insult you bear or sling is part of your brain’s calculations as it anticipates and budgets your metabolic needs. This view of the brain has many implications for understanding human beings. So often, for example, we conceive of ourselves in mental terms, separate from the physical. A bad stomach ache that follows an indulgent meal may send us to the gastroenterologist, but if we experience that same ache during a messy divorce, we may head to a psychotherapist instead. At the gastroenterologist’s office, we experience our discomfort as an underlying physical problem; at the therapist’s office, we experience the same discomfort as anxiety — a psychological disturbance, physically manifested. In body-budgeting terms, however, this distinction between mental and physical is not meaningful. Anxiety does not cause stomach aches; rather, feelings of anxiety and stomach aches are both ways that human brains make sense of physical discomfort. There is no such thing as a purely mental cause, because every mental experience has roots in the physical budgeting of your body. This is one reason physical actions like taking a deep breath, or getting more sleep, can be surprisingly helpful in addressing problems we traditionally view as psychological. We’re all living in challenging times, and we’re all at high risk for disrupted body budgets. If you feel weary from the pandemic and you’re battling a lack of motivation, consider your situation from a body-budgeting perspective. Your burden may feel lighter if you understand your discomfort as something physical. When an unpleasant thought pops into your head, like “I can’t take this craziness anymore,” ask yourself body-budgeting questions. “Did I get enough sleep last night? Am I dehydrated? Should I take a walk? Call a friend? Because I could use a deposit or two in my body budget.” This is not a semantic game. It’s about making new meaning from your physical sensations to guide your actions. I’m not saying you can snap your fingers and dissolve deep misery, or sweep away depression with a change of perspective. I’m suggesting that it’s possible to acknowledge what your brain is actually doing and take some comfort from it. Your brain is not for thinking. Everything that it conjures, from thoughts to emotions to dreams, is in the service of body budgeting. This perspective, adopted judiciously, can be a source of resilience in challenging times. Lisa Feldman Barrett (@LFeldmanBarrett) is a professor of psychology at Northeastern University and the author of “Seven and a Half Lessons About the Brain,” from which this essay is adapted.
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echinopsis posted:Your Brain is not for thinking didn’t read
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didn’t, or couldn’t?
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it’s actually good. it’s helpful for those who are grieving or are general grievous
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“You see this goblet?” asks Achaan Chaa, the Thai meditation master. “For me this glass is already broken. I enjoy it; I drink out of it. It holds my water admirably, sometimes even reflecting the sun in beautiful patterns. If I should tap it, it has a lovely ring to it. But when I put this glass on the shelf and the wind knocks it over or my elbow brushes it off the table and it falls to the ground and shatters, I say, ‘Of course.’ When I understand that the glass is already broken, every moment with it is precious.”
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Jan 9, 2021 02:58
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Bored Online posted:
there are 5 computer programming guides
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Jan 9, 2021 06:16
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the brain?? hmm makes u think
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Jan 9, 2021 07:29
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we should establish the cult of the computer 
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echinopsis posted:it’s actually good nope
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Jan 9, 2021 18:28
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computer toucher's take on psychologists opinion on how the brain works: "she doesnt know poo poo"
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jordan peterson is also a phd in clinical psychology does that mean everything he said is indisputably correct
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Jan 9, 2021 23:53
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if he said those same things that I posted then yes (on that topic alone)
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Jan 10, 2021 01:36
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computer nerds don’t hold the secret key to the magic portal of how the mind really works
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is anyone even claiming that lol
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*lowers hand, tugs at collar nervously*
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pram posted:is anyone even claiming that lol at least I don't want to gently caress jordan peterson
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lol not very zen of you my guy
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 drat do I have gently caress him now? my mother won’t be pleased
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will you two nerds stop squabbling and clean your rooms for chrissake
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Jan 10, 2021 05:40
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pram started it
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Jan 10, 2021 05:53
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if you have never read the bible before i recommend it even divorced from any religious context cause this book is funny as hell sometimes like god appearing before abraham in the desert to give him a page worth of dick regulations
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Bored Online posted:will you two nerds stop squabbling and clean your rooms for chrissake they should just gently caress already and get it over with
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Jan 10, 2021 07:12
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the brain is an unfathomably complex system and anything that purports to explain “how the brain works” is guaranteed to be wrong. we don’t know how it works. we know how bits an pieces operate but you absolutely cannot explain the behavior of a complex system by looking at how its parts work separately
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Jan 10, 2021 07:25
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that said, if a particular narrative about the brain is useful to someone then by all means believe it. refusing to believe anything doesn’t make you more right
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Jan 10, 2021 07:27
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Bored Online posted:if you have never read the bible before i recommend it even divorced from any religious context cause this book is funny as hell sometimes ecclesiastes is an extremely pro read no matter your opinion on the bible
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musings on meditation as mentioned before, when i meditate i predominately try to maintain a clear mind as opposed to tantric techniques. this can be pretty challenging without using a meditation guide as it turns out, but it leads down some interesting avenues. the psychological benefit i chase after is quieting the mind from ocd related issues so there is often a desire to optimize and make sure i am getting efficient use of my time, kind of like a person at the gym that logs everything in their smart watch. this leads to the discussion of what is a thought really. after only weeks of practice you can start really sussing out the different levels of ideation and how the tiers swell up and below each other like ocean currents. overt thoughts are pretty clear. everyone has an internal monologue that should be silenced from time to time. how about recognition of a physical sensation? how much of that is a signal and how much of it is my brain mulling it over? sometimes i perceive what is essentially the inner monologue without noise. these are all things we know and understand about ourselves, but it is interesting to study it in this fashion. how about imagery and music? how would i grade the beat from talking heads - psycho killer popping into my mind against the mindfullness score card? the answer really is that there is no score to take. no optimization that should be made. it is just a practice you may benefit from and analyzing it in this fashion is almost certainly against the point. what can be appreciated though is finding greater perception of your own thoughts overall and a quieter environment to have them in as you go about the rest of your day. you can perhaps find yourself improving your ability to be surrounded by outside stimuli during meditation (like when my catte eventually starts making noise) without having to acknowledge it on your highest level of consciousness.
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thanks for that. I feel you on a lot of your points, although you talk about being able to quieten the mind in a way I’m not familiar with. there is an awful lot to notice about consciousness when you pay attention to consciousness rather than just ride the thought train. it sounds like you’re witnessing things in greater detail than me. it’s kind of inspirational. I find it very interesting to hear, thanks.
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once the management posted something about having a bbq on the weekend and I was like yeah that’s the poo poo just wondering about the purpose in life. or rather, how do I give mine purpose see sometimes I feel inspired by an idea and during that time i’m happy and excited. it often never lasts, especially when I try to make the idea meet reality because then we’ll reality smacks me one and the excitement dies off but i’ve been wondering about, can I embrace it? it’s opposed to buddhist principles of not-wanting, but it truly gives me a sense of happiness, not just contentment. maybe I need an endless series of exciting dreams to chase for a while each
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echinopsis posted:see sometimes I feel inspired by an idea and during that time i’m happy and excited. it often never lasts, especially when I try to make the idea meet reality because then we’ll reality smacks me one and the excitement dies off life is about burning through a bunch of failed hobbies until you find one that actually works. i started playing drums recently and got more feelings of accomplishment by learning my first challenging beat than graduating college. stick with it imo and eventually you find a thing that works 4 u. echinopsis posted:but i’ve been wondering about, can I embrace it? it’s opposed to buddhist principles of not-wanting, but it truly gives me a sense of happiness, not just contentment. i think this is a common misconception. yeah life is suffering and joy is fleeting regardless of what your spiritual / religious beliefs are. some famous tibetan monks say buddhism is about appreciating joy in the moment when you get it so maybe you just gotta let yourself have one every now and again
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Bored Online posted:
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