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Yeah Nah 122 53.51%
Nah Yeah 64 28.07%
Nah Yee 18 7.89%
No Yes 9 3.95%
Yes No 15 6.58%
Total: 228 votes
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TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
I hope that Dan mines the border

TammyHEH fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Dec 30, 2020

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TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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Pikehead posted:

Both of them? Surely the South Australians can be trusted?

Only if they mine their border with NSW as well.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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Hope you have a happy 2021 Mr scribe!

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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Imagine how cool it would be if they enclosed Sydney in a dome.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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Eediot Jedi posted:

shut up tommunist

wait you're not tommunist

shut up tommunist

Your missing out on doorknobb licking

(Join the discord)

TammyHEH fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Dec 31, 2020

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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Im ok with this as long as it stops covid

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

crepeface posted:

why would wa need to lockdown again? we haven't had any surge in cases, have we? the border might go up again, but i don't think we'd do another lockdown with local cases.

Most people talking about lockdown are Victorian and are talking about that state.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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CelestialScribe posted:

So offer a solution. What do you want to happen now?

Lol

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

The Artificial Kid posted:

Mandatory masks for everyone in Sydney, going on for weeks (it can't stop the day we hit zero cases, because we don't know if the next day will have 20 cases) could potentially cost millions and millions of dollars for every case prevented

How do you figure

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

The Artificial Kid posted:

Well, if it cost everyone an average of 10c per day (which I think is a very conservative estimate), and went on for six weeks, that would be $22 million. How many cases will it prevent? That's very hard to estimate, but if we imagine that the current test-and-trace program is on track to eliminate the outbreak after another 100 cases, and the masks bring it down to 50 cases, then that's $500,000 per case.

But how much does masking actually cost? The first information available on google suggests that that a decent reusable mask will cost around $20 https://www.finder.com.au/reusable-face-mask-cost-analysis + shipping (which might be shared). I don't have any better information to hand (I've only used disposable masks because that's what I'm used to).

So that brings our cost over 6 weeks up to about 50c/day, or $2.5 million per case avoided in the above scenario.

Now the true number of cases avoided might be higher or lower, the actual cost of masks might be higher or lower, but there are very realistic scenarios where universal masking might be a poor use of money.



Is this a troll

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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realbez posted:

That is a Concern Troll: Finance

Thanks I have made a note on my spreadsheet

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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Can we get the blood thirsty Dutch dude back I liked him

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
The insidious stage 4 the thread collectively is pushing for

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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RichardA posted:

It becomes a troll when you only consider the costs of one side and not the other. Where is your accounting for the cost of the 50 extra cases? The estimate for the amount of close contacts they would cause to go into isolation for weeks? The cost of keeping the restrictions up for longer because there are more cases for longer? Potential costs of long term effects from the virus?

Its also a 10 dollar piece of fabric that most people on the east should have at picked up at some point this year.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

hambeet posted:

I use yours and tommunists posts

Distilling the essence of terrible posters leads to only worse posting tbh

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw-put-rest-of-country-at-risk-by-playing-the-odds-on-masks-ama-says-20210101-p56r91.html

"Australia’s peak medical group says the NSW government has put the rest of the country at risk by its decision not to go “hard and early” in its response to the outbreak on Sydney's northern beaches, which is suspected to have seeded cases in Victoria. "

Lmao

"AMA president Dr Omar Khorshid said he believed Victoria should have closed its borders to NSW sooner, saying the significant period of time between the transmission event at the Thai restaurant on December 21 and when cases were first detected on Wednesday afternoon, nine days later, was a concern.
“Maybe this can be jumped on, but there is so much prospect of it being back out there, it’s really scary,” Dr Khorshid said.
The AMA has called for the NSW government to make masks mandatory indoors and have criticised a decision to allow about 20,000 people to attend the Sydney cricket Test"

A brave move for the AMA to support compulsory masks indoors when this would hurt both bus drivers and the economy

TammyHEH fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jan 2, 2021

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

The Artificial Kid posted:



On the other hand, I wouldn’t say NSW needs to weld people into their houses right now, would you?



Would this stop you from posting?

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

The Artificial Kid posted:

What factors do you want to specifically introduce into the analysis to shatter my [sarcasm]rock solid conclusion[/sarcasm] that masks may or may not be a cost-efficient intervention? Are there amazing benefits to masks other than preventing the spread of respiratory illnesses? Do they put a spring in every step and a song in every heart? Do they prevent osteoarthritis or lower infant mortality? What are the non-financial factors that you think are desperately missing from my internet forum comment that universal masking might or might not be a financially expensive way to prevent cases in a low-case environment where effective contact tracing is in play?

Look u got owned by gladys its time to stop

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

I dont think u get the posting of brother hawk

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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crepeface posted:

wait, you guys read reports from this thread?

Anidav loves it

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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hooman posted:

Revised Auspol Verboten Topics List 2021:
Premium chicken establishments
Bus decorations
Illegal/Unlawful
Water Bottles
Bike Helmets
Desert Trash City
Economic Impact of Pandemic Mask wearing

Julvin Rulhop has spoken.


Forgetting the dreaded K word

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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SHALASHASKA HAWKE posted:

Second-best. Deranged posting is the best.

Finally hambeet is useful

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

realbez posted:

gently caress u!!!!

No, gently caress you.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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perepelki posted:

seriously though, what is the dreaded k-word?

ketamine? knesset? krampus? k-rudd?

K'hambeet

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

Seemlar posted:

If you don't lock down now and demand people wear masks 24/7, it'll soon turn into a mismanaged disaster like NSW, with it's zero new cases

Should just lock off NSW from other states permanently. The posting coming from it is dire.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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freebooter posted:

I've tried it at two different places and it's unresponsive

Fwiw I've had no problems either

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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SHALASHASKA HAWKE posted:

You haven’t gone anywhere.

Oh...

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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Its a good game Mr CS

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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Eediot Jedi posted:

Imo CS is going low effort post dumb poo poo tee hee you got mad I'm a genius puppet master trolling, so the less you engage the happier we can all be huffing apocalyptic farts.

No!!!!

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

CelestialScribe posted:

You don't even know what my views on COVID are. No one here does. The only thing people know is that during the end of the lockdown, I took my son to a park that was slightly further away than the 5km travel limit.

If you want an audit of my views for the sake of it, here you go:

- I agree with everything the Vic state government has done except:
- The curfew was completely wrong and should never have been implemented as it wasn't recommended by health experts
- Specialist schools should have remained open during lockdown
- The 5km travel bubble should have been 10km to accommodate people at the edge of metropolitan areas
- The state government should have provided more financial assistance when announcing the harshest lockdowns in the country
- Daniel Andrews should step down for failing to run a competent hotel quarantine program that led to the second wave
- There should have been more exceptions to travel restrictions, like L platers wanting to practice in their car, or whatever
- They should have implemented lockdown plans during the end of the first wave, rather than scrambling around like fools during the second - they had months to prepare roadmaps and they didn't

That's it. I vote Greens, before you say anything.
A tree Tory I see

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

bowmore posted:

I'm not sure what 3 days is supposed to do

allows them to get ahead on tracing and cuts down on possible community transmission before they can contain it for an apparently especially virulent strain of covid i think?

If its really out there in the community they can extend the lock down but its not like 3 days is a massive amount of time to be sure you've got it under control.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

I, Butthole posted:

I'm at work and had to move around about 400 boxes of drinks to do stocking in a shipping container to take back to the store. I am an unfit fat motherfucker and was sweaty as hell and the mask was fine. I even wore my glasses

Shut the gently caress up and wear the drat mask

But I might get sweaty

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

dr_rat posted:

Not quite sure if your joking or not, but just in case your not, 1 in 18 high schoolers in London probably had covid over Christmas:

https://www.mylondon.news/news/health/london-covid-latest-figures-show-19591605

"Children in the 12 to 16 age group had the highest percentage of infection of any age group in the capital during the period."


It's as we've always known, kids are fundamentally just huge plague rats and should not be kept inside city walls. :colbert:

Hambeet is not kidding btw

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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Mans on a roll

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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But he cares about protecting English cooking show hosts more

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
Wasnt an abortion really hard to get in Queensland for the longest time?

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

bell jar posted:

Has Frydenberg ever engaged in anti-semitism or Holocaust denial? Does the Liberal party do this?

Frydenberg is well within his rights to talk about anti-semitism lol

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
The liberal party sucks rear end but frydenberg is entirely within his rights as a Jewish person from a family that survived the holocaust to talk about anti semitism on a day dedicated to it.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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Sulla Faex posted:

didnt frydenberg take 10 million dollars away from palestinian refugees last year

is this a "my genocide is the only moral genocide" thing?

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TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

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This isnt about Palestine at all, no one was suggesting that only one genocide was sacred.

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