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Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

jarofpiss posted:

i think they levitated the pentagon and it ended the vietnam war

Nice, I'd like to do something to that effect.

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henkman
Oct 8, 2008

Finicums Wake posted:

turns out one can get into marxism around the 2008 financial crisis, read about it for more than a decade, vote and advocate for bernie, vote and advocate for third party candidates, AND support the medicare for all floor vote that taintrunner keeps melting down about, yet end up a lib wrecker who needs to go to D&D. what a joke. much like witch craft, imo, but to each their own

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

The hotter, the wetter, the better

Grevling posted:

Nice, I'd like to do something to that effect.

the vietnam war is already over, dumbass

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

clockwork chaos
Sep 15, 2009




hello cspam, good morning good morning, it's time for

C-Spam's Daily Reading for 12/31



Inverted 2 of Cups: uncommunicated thoughts. Today is a day of evaluating relationships and discussion. Misheard or misconstrued situations are common, take the time to clarify words before commiting to any one thing lest you pay for it in the future.

Inverted 4 of Cups: disassociated feelings. Today is a day of assessing neglected emotional needs and opportunities lost. Focusing too much on one thing has led you to ignore your other desires, and you've become disillusioned, bored, unbalanced. Try finding something that sparks your interest anew, however brief.

4 of Pentacles: frugal actions. Today is a day of celebration and gratitude for what you have earned. Value is measured in enjoyment, ensure the things you have placed value in are appreciated, and not just taking up space.

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

lumpentroll posted:

the vietnam war is already over, dumbass

There are other wars now, don't know if u heard

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

The hotter, the wetter, the better

Grevling posted:

There are other wars now, don't know if u heard

that doesn't sound true

tiberion02
Mar 26, 2007

People tend to make the common mistake of believing that a situation will last forever.

Finicums Wake posted:

turns out one can get into marxism around the 2008 financial crisis, read about it for more than a decade, vote and advocate for bernie, vote and advocate for third party candidates, AND support the medicare for all floor vote that taintrunner keeps melting down about, yet end up a lib wrecker who needs to go to D&D. what a joke. much like witch craft, imo, but to each their own

Fluoride Jones
Aug 24, 2009

toot toot
Anyone know where I can get eye of newt?

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


Fluoride Jones posted:

Anyone know where I can get eye of newt?

when i googled on bing "eye of newt aliexpress" it gave me fog lights for pickup trucks so maybe try substituting those

Badactura
Feb 14, 2019

My wish lives in the future.
I'm a technomage bc I store my magic spells on a hard drive.

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



https://twitter.com/dril/status/549003213891203072?lang=en

clockwork chaos
Sep 15, 2009




Apoplexy posted:

Can we invoke death curses and hexes in this thread, or is that verboten as well
that's pretty heavy, and not usually worth the time and energy invested imo, talk like that tends to get the pyres burning. I recommend inconvenience hexes and annoyance poxes, light easy curses that you can safely blame on coincidence - but deep down you'll know. Forgetting your bus pass, forgetting the words to your speech, misplacing your keys muhuhahaha

perepelki posted:

i can talk to animals
neat! do they have anything to say back?

Grevling posted:

Has anyone tried to use magick to affect politics? I want to get really into bending the universe to my will using magick in 2021.
yes. most definitely - the tafttub in particular.

Fluoride Jones posted:

Anyone know where I can get eye of newt?
eye of newt is colloquially called mustard seeds, they're pretty common so i imagine a lot of places have 'em

Badactura posted:

I'm a technomage bc I store my magic spells on a hard drive.
always good to keep backups, consider a zipdrive for spells on the go, or a hexapp to add to your repitoire

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Grevling posted:

Has anyone tried to use magick to affect politics? I want to get really into bending the universe to my will using magick in 2021.

magick got us in this mess to begin with!

quote:

SCP-5004-B is United States President Donald John Trump. SCP-5004-B is a powerful reality sink, negating the anomalous effects of supernatural entities or artifacts near it by altering the way those entities or artifacts interact with the fabric of spacetime. This ability appears to be innate to SCP-5004-B's existence as a whole, as individual pieces of SCP-5004-B or parts of SCP-5004-B disconnected from the rest of the entity do not carry the same negating properties.

quote:

Ginsburg: Quite. And all the while Gorman has been stewing down there, growing big and strong and increasingly annoying! I have spoken to him in his dreams on several occasions, yes. He has a foul mouth and is very perturbed to have been given the run-around by Charles Hughes all those years ago. Make no mistake, white coat - Gorman is coming, and on that day he will rise up from beneath the Earth in such great and terrible fury this country, nay, the world itself will never be the same again. But! In that dark hour, who will rise to oppose him but me, the Grand Arcanist of Brooklyn, the Witch of Washington, the Arch-Arcanist of Jurisprudence!

http://www.scpwiki.com/scp-5004

CC, in the actual spirit of the thread, would you pull a reading for me at your leisure? I've just applied for a job that I would put in the "dream job, if i dreamed of labor" category and am curious if the cards have anything to say.

Lib and let die has issued a correction as of 17:56 on Dec 31, 2020

clockwork chaos
Sep 15, 2009




Lib and let die posted:

CC, in the actual spirit of the thread, would you pull a reading for me at your leisure?

for you I've drawn



Inverted Hanged Man: needless sacrifice. You hesitate, sometimes you worry it's been for naught, that your actions haven't had the desired outcome. Take time to step back and reassess your path; is this where you really wish to go? There's still time to change your mind.

- - - - -

Lib and let die posted:

CC, in the actual spirit of the thread, would you pull a reading for me at your leisure? I've just applied for a job that I would put in the "dream job, if i dreamed of labor" category and am curious if the cards have anything to say.

Situation / Outcome Read



8 of cups: disillusionment. Your old job im assuming, symbolizing walking away and/or leaving things behind. Perhaps not an amicable seperation, as this card has connotations of abandonment.

Ace of Swords: victory. the future looks bright if you get this job, but its definitely not without it's downsides. Either less time for yourself, or more responsibilities or something that'll make you feel a twinge of regret, but not too much. This card has connotations of power over others so keep that in check.

Fool: beginnings. Well obviously new job new start that's easy, but can also mean a return to simpler times. Ignorance and childlike exuberance are both connotated, so if things seem too good to be true, most times it is.

clockwork chaos has issued a correction as of 18:13 on Dec 31, 2020

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



youtube.com/watch?v=k1qACd0wHd0 posted:

“On my Fortieth Birthday, rather than merely bore my friends by having anything as mundane as a midlife crisis, I decided it might be more interesting to terrify them, by going completely mad, and declaring myself as a magician. This had been something that had been coming for a while. It seemed to be a logical end step in my career as a writer, and the problem is that with magic, being in many respects a science of language, you have to be very careful of what you say. Because if you suddenly declare yourself to be a magician, without any knowledge of what that entails, then one day you are likely to wake up and to discover that is exactly what you are.

There is some confusion as to what magic actually is. I think this can be cleared up if you just look at the very earliest descriptions of magic. Magic in its earliest form is often referred to as “the art”. I believe this is completely literal. I believe that magic IS art, and that art, whether it be writing, music, sculpture, or any other form, IS literally magic. Art is, like magic, the science of manipulating symbols, words, or images, to achieve changes in consciousness. The very language of magic seems to be talking as much about writing or art, as it about supernatural events. A “Grimoire” for example, “the book of spells”, is simply a fancy way of saying “grammar”. Indeed, to cast a spell, is simply “to spell”, to manipulate words, to change people’s consciousness. And I believe that this is why an artist or a writer is the closest thing, in the contemporary world, you are likely to see to a shaman.

I believe that all culture must have arisen from cult. Originally, all of the facets of our culture, whether they be in the arts or the sciences, were the providence of the shaman. The fact that in present times, this magical power has degenerated to the level of cheap entertainment and manipulation is, I think, a tragedy. At the moment, the people who are using shamanism and magic to shape our culture are advertisers. Rather than trying to wake people up, THEIR shamanism is used as an opiate, to tranquilize people, to make people more manipulable Their “magic box” of television, and by their “magic words”, their jingles, can cause everybody in the country to be thinking the same words, and have the same banal thoughts, all at exactly the same moment…

In all of magic, there is an incredibly large linguistic component. The “Bardic” tradition of magic would place a Bard as being much higher and more fearsome than a magician. A magician might curse you, That might make your hands lay funny, or you might have a child born with a clubbed food. If a bard were to place, not a curse upon you, but a satire, that could destroy you. If it was a clever satire, it might not just destroy you in the eyes of your associates, it would destroy you in the eyes of your family. It would destroy you in your own eyes. And if it was a (extremely) finely worded and clever satire, that might survive and be remembered for decades, even centuries, then years after you were dead, people still might be reading it, and laughing… at you, your wretchedness, and absurdity. Writers, and people who had command of words were respected and feared, (just) as people who manipulated magic.

In latter times, I think the artists and writers have allowed themselves to be ‘sold down the river’. They have ACCEPTED the prevailing belief that art, that writing, are merely forms of entertainment. They’re not seen as transformative forces… that can change a human being, that can change a society. They are seen as simple entertainment Things with which we can fill 20 minutes, half an hour, while we’re waiting to die…

It is not the job of the artist to give the audience what the audience WANTS.

If the audience knew what they needed, then they wouldn’t be the audience. They would be the artist.

It is the job of artists to give the audience what they NEED.

My career as a magician continues to evolve. Since I, to a certain degree, believe art and magic to be interchangeable, it has seemed only natural that art should be the means by which I express magical ideas. This has found its way into my prose writing, in works such as “Voice of the Fire”, and probably most visibly has found its way into the performance pieces that i’ve done in various locations over the past 8 years. Beautiful little psychedelic artifacts in their own right, which actually capture the kind of narrative journey that we’ve tried to take the readers on as part of these performances; to overwhelm the sensibilities of the audience; to tip them over into a kind of psychedelic state where we can hopefully actually change their consciousness and direct it to different places, different levels, hopefully into new and magical spaces.

When we are doing the will of our True Self, we are inevitably doing the Will of the Universe. In Magic these are seen as indistinguishable; that Every human soul is in fact One human soul. It is the soul of the Universe itself, and as long as you are doing the Will of the Universe, then it is impossible to do anything wrong.

The one place in which Gods and Demons inarguably exist is in the human mind, where they are real in all their grandeur and monstrosity. Much of magic, as I understand it in the Western occult tradition, is a search for the Self, with a capital ‘S’. This is understood as being the ‘Great Work’, as being the Gold the Alchemists sought, as being the Will, the Soul, the thing that we have inside us that is behind the intellect, the body, the dreams. The “inner dynamo of us” if you like.

Now this is the Single. Most. Important. Thing. that we can ever attain, the knowledge of our own Self. And yet, there are a frightening amount of people who seem to have the urge to, not just IGNORE the self, but actually seem to have the urge to OBLITERATE themselves. This is horrific… but you can almost understand the desire to simply “wipe out” that awareness, because it’s too much of a responsibility to actually POSSESS such a thing as a “soul”. Such a precious thing. ‘What if you break it? What if you lose it?’ Mightn’t it be best to anaesthetize it, to deaden it, to destroy it, to not have to live with the pain of struggling towards it and trying to keep it pure. I think that the way that people immerse themselves in alcohol, in drugs, in television, in any of the addictions that our culture throws up, can be seen as a deliberate attempt to destroy any connection between themselves and the responsibility of accepting and owning a higher Self, and then having to maintain it.

I’ve been looking at the history of magical thinking, and where it starts to go wrong. And, for my money, where it starts to go wrong is “monotheism”. I mean, if you look at the history of magic, you’ve got its origins in the caves, you’ve got its origins in shamanism, in animism, in a belief that everything around you (every tree, every rock, every animal) was inhabited by some sort of ‘essence’, some sort of spirit, that could perhaps be communicated with. You would have had some central shaman or visionary who would have been responsible for channeling ideas that were useful for survival. By the time you have reached the classical civilizations, you can see that this has formalized to a degree. The shaman was acting purely as an intermediary between the spirits and the people. He was, in his position in the village or community, I should imagine very much like a spiritual plumber. The people in the group would have had their own roles.. The person who was best at hunting would’ve been a hunter. The person who was best at talking to the spirits, perhaps because he or she was a bit crazy, a bit detached from our normal, material world, then they would have been the Shaman. They would not have been the masters of a ‘sacred craft’. They would have simply been dispensing their information throughout the community because it was believed to be helpful to the community.

When you get the actual classical cultures emerging, this has been formalized so that you’ve now got pantheons of gods, and each of those gods have a priest caste, that will act (to a certain degree) as intermediaries, who will instruct you in the worship of that god. So the relationship between ‘humans and their gods’, which could be seen a relationship between ‘humans & their highest Selves’, that was still a very direct one… When Christianity & monotheism comes in, then all of a sudden you’ve got a priest caste moving between the worshipper and the object of worship. You’ve got a priest caste becoming a kind of ‘spiritual middle management’ between humanity and the divine within itself that it is seeking. You no longer have a direct relationship with the godhead. The Priests don’t really necessarily have a direct relationship with the godhead. They’ve just got a book that tells you about some people who lived a long time ago who DID have a direct relationship with the godhead… and that’s alright. “You don’t need to have miraculous visions. You don’t need to have gods talking to you. In fact if you do have any of that stuff, you’re probably insane.” In the modern world, that stuff doesn’t happen. The only people who are allowed to talk to gods, and in a very kind of one-sided way, are priests…

Monotheism, to me, is a great simplification. I mean, the Kabbalah has a great mulitiplicity of gods, but at the very top of the Kabbalistic diagram —the tree of life—who have this one sphere that is absolute God. The Monad. Something that is indivisible, you know? And all of the other gods, and indeed everything else in the Universe, is a kind of emanation of that God. Now that’s fine, but it’s when you suggest that there is ‘only that one God’, at this kind of unreachable height above humanity, and there is nothing in between, you’re limiting and simplifying the thing… I mean I tend to think of Paganism as a kind of alphabet, as a language. It’s like all of the Gods are letters in this alphabet. They express nuances, shades of meaning, or certain subtleties of ideas. Whereas monotheism tends to be just one vowel, and it’s just something like “ooooh”. It’s like this monkey sound. You can almost imagine the Gods becoming frustrated, contemptuous.. that with all this richness of spiritual concepts that are available, why reduce it to one plaintive single note that the utterer does not even understand?

The alchemists had two components to their philosophy. These were the principles of “solve” and “coagula”. Solve was basically the equivalent of ‘analysis’. It was taking things apart to see how they worked. Coagula was basically ‘synthesis’. It was trying to put the disassembled pieces back together so that they worked more efficiently.

These are two very important principles which can be applied to almost anything in culture. Recently in literature, for example, there has been a wave of post-modernism, deconstructionism. This is Solve. Perhaps it’s time, in the arts, for a little more Coagula. Having deconstructed everything, perhaps we really should be starting to think about putting everything back together.

Spiritualism was the natural state of human thinking up until the Renaissance and the subsequent age of reason that grew out of it. Our original way of seeing the world, was as a place entirely inhabited by spirits, where everything had its indwelling essence, where everything was, in some sense, sacred, including ourselves. The age of reason changed all that. While it’s inarguable that Reason brought many great benefits, and was a necessary stage of our development, unfortunately this lead to materialism, where the physical material world was seen as the be-all and end-all of existence, where inevitably, we are seen as creatures that have no spiritual dimensions, that have no souls, in a soulless Universe of dead matter…

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

magic is fake. it doesn't actually do anything

clockwork chaos
Sep 15, 2009




an actual dog posted:

magic is fake. it doesn't actually do anything

that's nice, honey

Fluoride Jones
Aug 24, 2009

toot toot
My car's a piece of poo poo how do I get one of those flying brooms?

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

clockwork chaos posted:

for you I've drawn



Inverted Hanged Man: needless sacrifice. You hesitate, sometimes you worry it's been for naught, that your actions haven't had the desired outcome. Take time to step back and reassess your path; is this where you really wish to go? There's still time to change your mind.

- - - - -


Situation / Outcome Read



8 of cups: disillusionment. Your old job im assuming, symbolizing walking away and/or leaving things behind. Perhaps not an amicable seperation, as this card has connotations of abandonment.

Ace of Swords: victory. the future looks bright if you get this job, but its definitely not without it's downsides. Either less time for yourself, or more responsibilities or something that'll make you feel a twinge of regret, but not too much. This card has connotations of power over others so keep that in check.

Fool: beginnings. Well obviously new job new start that's easy, but can also mean a return to simpler times. Ignorance and childlike exuberance are both connotated, so if things seem too good to be true, most times it is.

Interesting. Just going to do some thinking out loud on this...

I was disillusioned with my current job before I took it, given it's with the same employer I was with ~3 years ago and left for various reasons - and while I conducted myself as though the split were amicable, I swallowed a lot of blood at my wife's urging and played nice. It's played heavily into my motivation to GTFO, but also raised some old skeletons that I'd thought I'd fully moved on from but still had a bit of life left in them w/r/t how I'm valued in the workplace. Suffice to say, while most business environments are toxic by nature, this company felt especially aggro and I had (and still have) to deal with a lot of very uncomfortable feelings here.

I don't like my job, or the company I work for, but I do like my boss: we're in the same age bracket, we'd hung out socially during my previous tenure, and she's been thrown into the position of fixing a business unit plagued by years of its previous manager pulling up the ladder behind him and think she's just a nice person in general and I am going to feel bad giving my notice to her. The team is already shorthanded and overworked and while I know it's not my problem that the company is understaffed, I am going to feel bad about leaving my work to my already overworked colleagues.

If I do get the job, it's going to be working with a proprietary platform, in a new-ish direction for me - a sort of halftime blanking of the slate.

Thanks clockwork - I needed something to spur some reflection. I hope you don't mind me diarreah-ing back my musings! :)

Lib and let die has issued a correction as of 19:20 on Dec 31, 2020

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



Fluoride Jones posted:

My car's a piece of poo poo how do I get one of those flying brooms?

try a roomba before committing to a broom or vacuum cleaner

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

I know a single spell and it’s simple but potent:

“Believing this sentence will make you happier”

Please meditate on this

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Pretty sure weed is magic

clockwork chaos
Sep 15, 2009




Kit Walker posted:

I know a single spell and it’s simple but potent:

“Believing this sentence will make you happier”

Please meditate on this
very powerful spell, i agree - belief can shape many things. look at the recent presidency for examples

Sextro posted:

Pretty sure weed is magic
no doubt in my mind, a potent herb with many uses - a staple in any witch's collection

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Grevling posted:

Has anyone tried to use magick to affect politics? I want to get really into bending the universe to my will using magick in 2021.

MAGA chaos magick practitioners made Hillary collapse at the 2016 9-11 memorial and also accidentally summoned an ancient Egyptian god.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

clockwork chaos posted:



welcome to Seer-Spam's center of witchcraft for Tarot readings, general spellcraft, and other esoteric miscellany! all types of the occult welcome and please no fighting.

i got a lot of positive feedback in the mod thread so i went ahead and made a space to continue readings and to let others do things as well.

i want this to be a place for sharing tales, asking guidance, teaching lost arts and there's no wrong way to go about it as long as you're not being an rear end in a top hat.

anyway it doesn't matter if you think it's real or not, the important thing is it makes you feel like you have some sort of control over your life, plus it's fun!

i personally accept questions in-thread (or as PMs if you want to be anonymized) to do situation readings, single card draws, as well as the daily reading - but feel free to contribute in your own way, i'm always excited to see new sides of the occult and witchcraft!

oh and if you plan on using the black arts, always keep your curses clean and simple as complex rituals can easily backfire - remember to always practice safe hex!

(OP art by snoo Scream & Scry)

Hey man, it's New Years eve

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

yew sure I got the Inverted Hanged Man, witch? that's a rough 'un it is. me gran pulled that t' last solstice and next think you know 'ad her caverns betwixt - er, by way of meanin' cunny if you're the sort with 'oles in yer pate - become a right rutfest of spectres, wraiths, and even a banshee that deafened young Gorm, the village a-neurotypicals. anyways t' local lordship in the DSA mentioned 'irin of witcha but neither I the coin nor the trust for those freaks on account of one takin a dump in the granary, stunk to heavens all year round it did, nasty bastards - the lot.

clockwork chaos
Sep 15, 2009





on mobile so i didnt notice this was different, holy poo poo that owns

clockwork chaos
Sep 15, 2009




C-Spam's Daily Reading for 1/1



2 of Swords: indecisive thoughts. Today is a day of evaluation and choice. Days of stalling have taken its toll, one must be chosen before progress can begin, but a blind guess is worse than not choosing at all.

High Priest: feelings of tradition. Today is a day of isolation and rest. Hollow calls for undeserved celebration, agnostic of the situation, reek of purposeful ignorance and toxic self-importance.

9 of Cups: actions of comfort. Today is a day of relaxation and stability. Earned treasures should be enjoyed lest they be taken for granted in the grand scheme of accumulating additional treasures. Give them a second chance

staticman
Sep 12, 2008

Be gay
Death to America
Suck my dick Israel
Mess with Texas
and remember to lmao
I got a witch for a mom, and thanks to DNA being a dick I got it passed down to me from birth. I gotta admit, one of my first real post-9/11 crack-pings was being in the last stages of my "Magic's not real, gently caress you mom" rebel phase while watching meme-magic literally send TUETNRO into the white house.

Message received and lesson loving learned :stonk:

staticman has issued a correction as of 20:20 on Jan 1, 2021

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

I just picked up a book about a kind of Jewish magic called qabalah from my local library. The book is mainly about personal development and turning yourself into a direct channel to God, not sure if it will help with politics.

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
what's the quickest route to learning some kind of kinesis? pyro, tele, osseo, i'm not picky.

clockwork chaos
Sep 15, 2009




staticman posted:

I got a witch for a mom, and thanks to DNA being a dick I got it passed down to me from birth. I gotta admit, one of my first real post-9/11 crack-pings was being in the last stages of my "Magic's not real, gently caress you mom" rebel phase while watching meme-magic literally send TUETNRO into the white house.

Message received and lesson loving learned :stonk:

the unbridled power of concentrated belief can do great and terrible things

Grevling posted:

I just picked up a book about a kind of Jewish magic called qabalah from my local library. The book is mainly about personal development and turning yourself into a direct channel to God, not sure if it will help with politics.

if you are willing, teach us of the Sephirot, the golems and other things, shared knowledge is useful

Eox posted:

what's the quickest route to learning some kind of kinesis? pyro, tele, osseo, i'm not picky.
the quickest one to learn is homosapikinesis, most are born with the spark atleast

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

clockwork chaos posted:

if you are willing, teach us of the Sephirot, the golems and other things, shared knowledge is useful

Alright, I'll post more on this magic later.

clockwork chaos
Sep 15, 2009




C-Spam's Daily Reading for 1/2



inverted High Priestess: repressed thoughts. Today is a day of re-centering and listening. The inner voice cries out unheard, denied subconsciously. Take the time to hearken its message for it is eternal in its diligence

5 of Pentacles: insecure feelings. Today is a day of charity and aid. Debts unpaid and favors owed, desperate times upon us all. Help, just out of arms reach, remains ignorant unless alerted

Temperance: patient actions. Today is a day of adaption and cooperation. To aid and be aided in turn, balance is key - extending too far will cause nothing but exhaustion

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
bold to post the 'too wealthy for life to have meaning' megathread op.

clockwork chaos
Sep 15, 2009




Larry Parrish posted:

bold to post the 'too wealthy for life to have meaning' megathread op.

witchcraft and the like is predominantly born of peasantry and commoners but go off i guess
life is all about finding meaning in everything from stars to cards to help you deal with this bitch of an earth

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Ansar Santa
Jul 12, 2012

As for me, whenever i eat a "wish chip" ( a chip which is folded over onto itself), or pull out an eyelash, I wish for global communism

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