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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > UKMT January 2021 - i have no chin and i must chitterwagger
 
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Nov 7, 2009

Answers Me posted:

https://twitter.com/DanielHewittITV/status/1346125089754984449

Why did melts ever think this guy was an attractive, suave sophisticat? He looks loving gross, and has that same uncanny lack of facial definition that Cameron has.

Yeah, the way that people talked about him- as this successful lawyer who can speak confidently with forensic (lol) detail, looks good in a suit and exudes competence. I can kind of see why that would appeal to people as a Labour leader in 2020. But then you watch a video of him and its like: Him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0IyaqurmGE

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Nov 7, 2009

Jose posted:

ffs

https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1348197873322749952?s=20

Of course after his government's massive gently caress up of the NHS IT modernisation, he should be the last person to take advice from on this.

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Nov 7, 2009

Pistol_Pete posted:

Re: the developing Zero-covid campaign - I've been struck to see the right-wing press already gearing up to attack it, which I think is really interesting:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/01/14/lockdown-sceptics-have-one-last-chance-lead-covid-debate/


What does the thread think about this? Once the vaccinations are well underway, should we end restrictions and learn to live with Covid, or should we concentrate on vigorously eliminating it?

My own feeling is that learning to live with Covid is a false argument: as long as we're continually needing lockdowns due to rampant Covid, the economy's never going to recover.
This all depends on how well the vacines prevent transmission. This is something we don't know at the moment as the big studies were all focused on whether it prevents symptoms. This is for the oxford vaccine:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32661-1/fulltext#tbl2

lancet posted:

Asymptomatic infections or those with unreported symptoms were detected in 69 participants (table 2). Vaccine efficacy in the 24 LD/SD recipients was 58·9% (95% CI 1·0 to 82·9), whereas it was 3·8% (−72·4 to 46·3) in the 45 participants receiving SD/SD (table 2).

If the 3.8% is accurate then zero covid isn't going to happen any time soon.

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Nov 7, 2009
 In case it wasn't obvious, here we have the rationale behind Sir Kier's brilliant tactics:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/31/the-bad-taste-question-about-covid-that-everyone-at-westminster-is-asking posted:


One Labour frontbencher tells me: “In our focus groups, the more we attack the government, the more people don’t like it.” The accusation that the government has been too slow to take measures to control the virus resonates with the public because they largely agree. “Anywhere else you attack them, you have people saying, ‘That’s not fair.’”
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