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Radical 90s Wizard posted:gently caress man, at least all agree that arguing between $1400 and $2000 is loving ridiculous and basically quibbling about what type of bandaid to put on a gaping wound https://twitter.com/PinkRangerLyra/status/1355972878953549832?s=19
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McNally posted:How the gently caress do you guys always have blow-ups on days I’m out of the house for extended periods and can only phonepost? It's sunday, this literally happens every sunday.
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fknlo posted:A 3 percenter bandana being worn as a mask by a federal employee while working in a federal building is completely not appropriate right? Its likely that, for your manager to do anything other than quietly take that person aside and say, 'hey, we've gotten some complaints, can you wear a more politically neutral mask?' They'd need to be ready to die on that hill and anybody who believes in either their people or the work they do will most likely avoid that in exchange for getting absolutely anything else done before they're sacked. There is unlikely enough evidence to show that as hate speech or as part of a criminal organization and dress code re: masks has not probably been addressed the same way you might be able to say, "fine, we're a dress shirts and slacks kind of place now because I'm tired of policing your t-shirts. Happy?" Basically, your manager can say something, and so saying something might be worth it, but they probably don't have the support to do anything about it, even if they wholeheartedly agree. Sorry.
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fknlo posted:A 3 percenter bandana being worn as a mask by a federal employee while working in a federal building is completely not appropriate right? You might be able to get them on a Hatch Act argument, depending on if you can convince your manager that it counts as a "partisan political item." https://osc.gov/Services/Pages/HatchAct-Federal.aspx#tabGroup12
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:gently caress man, at least all agree that arguing between $1400 and $2000 is loving ridiculous and basically quibbling about what type of bandaid to put on a gaping wound I don't think anyone here has argued against $2,000 payments or greater, which is why I'm really shocked at the aggression. The disagreement seems to be over what has changed with the Democrats' messaging and what position they started from vs. what they've lead people to expect since. If somebody interprets "Hey, the Democrats actually did say it this way back in December even if they lost control of the messaging since then" as "We should not get $2,000 checks" then I don't know what to say to them.
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Milo and POTUS posted:He looks like a C&C character The Rothschild Space Laser is a pretty big clue that we're living in the Red Alert timeline now.
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So which of the other legislative proposals do you think the Dems should jettison to get the 2k checks?
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piL posted:Its likely that, for your manager to do anything other than quietly take that person aside and say, 'hey, we've gotten some complaints, can you wear a more politically neutral mask?' They'd need to be ready to die on that hill and anybody who believes in either their people or the work they do will most likely avoid that in exchange for getting absolutely anything else done before they're sacked. This is kind of what I figured. It's not even worth me bringing up then. At least this person isn't one of my direct employees. One of the other people in Mr. Three percent's work area once told me that his hero is Dr. Ron Paul, so...
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Do you think that liberals are leftists? Why are you just trying to start arguments?
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They control the house and senate, they shouldn't jettison poo poo
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Grip it and rip it posted:So which of the other legislative proposals do you think the Dems should jettison to get the 2k checks? They don't need to jettison anything, and they especially don't need to talk to Republicans or even pretend that they give a poo poo about negotiating a bill they have 100% of the ability to pass on their own.
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Godholio posted:Why are you just trying to start arguments? I'm not. The poster seemed to miss the point of the original quoted post. quote:That's definitely not true. The greatest lie moderate liberals ever told themselves is that people to their left only disagree with them about tactics. They were pointing out the gulf that exists between modern Democrats that embrace neoliberalism and modern leftists
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200 posts in the CE thread... All of them poo poo, a steaming pile of garbage. Yall need to storm the capital again
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Grip it and rip it posted:So which of the other legislative proposals do you think the Dems should jettison to get the 2k checks? Nothing? Why should they? Republicans rammed poo poo through because they had a majority for four loving years. Unimpeded. So why should the dems not do the same? Bipartisanship can suck my rear end. They didn't use it, so why should we?
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Do you think that liberals are leftists? Youre trying to label spectrums that support multiple, similar ideas without either having an overriding focus. You might be assuming that liberals are the entire spectrum while leftists are just that portion on the end or something. Since there is no clear definition, the label is up to the individual, I would be wrong to provide one. If you just want to differentiate on the spectrum, it would be more helpful to enlarge the portion on the far left rather than cut off the entire spectrum at an arbitrary point. The labels used here generally only apply to the context of the people here. In the US noone here is close to a moderate by any means.
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Abongination posted:Yall need to storm the capital again Oh gently caress right off with that
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lightpole posted:Youre trying to label spectrums that support multiple, similar ideas without either having an overriding focus. You might be assuming that liberals are the entire spectrum while leftists are just that portion on the end or something. Since there is no clear definition, the label is up to the individual, I would be wrong to provide one. Whole lotta words without saying anything dude.
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lightpole posted:Youre trying to label spectrums that support multiple, similar ideas without either having an overriding focus. You might be assuming that liberals are the entire spectrum while leftists are just that portion on the end or something. Since there is no clear definition, the label is up to the individual, I would be wrong to provide one. Nice of you to make that assumption about me eta: I do believe capitalism is a nice separator between libs and leftists UP THE BUM NO BABY fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jan 31, 2021 |
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boop the snoot posted:Whole lotta words without saying anything dude. Leftists believe in full space communism now or bust, liberals believe in eating brunch off the backs of BIPOC. This isn't difficult.
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boop the snoot posted:Whole lotta words without saying anything dude. I think he's saying it's a stupid loving derail and he's right.
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Godholio posted:I think he's saying it's a stupid loving derail and he's right. No that's a big brain post that diminishes the anti-capitalist sentiments of leftism
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the defining traits of leftism are of course the desire to diminish and ultimately abolish private property, worker solidarity, and a burning hatred of anyone with even minor ideological or even tactical disagreements on how to achieve the above goals
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Acebuckeye13 posted:the defining traits of leftism are of course the desire to diminish and ultimately abolish private property, worker solidarity, and a burning hatred of anyone with even minor ideological or even tactical disagreements on how to achieve the above goals That’s what happens when capitalism steamrolls your entire generation.
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The revolution is literally right around the corner guys and your dumbshit derail about who THE REAL LEFTISTS ARE is super important. There is no meaningful left in American politics, we barely have class consciousness in the US. Stop acting like the other people in this thread are the reason you are politically powerless. Venting that frustration on people here is accomplishing gently caress all. Maybe go on a walk or log off or take it to Twitter and offer up some hot takes on leftist charcuterie board discourse. Because holy poo poo it is insufferable to read through this same poo poo over and over again. You are getting so spun up, like your posting here matters, & is not being scrolled past as fast as possible by like the 100 people that read this thread.
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boop the snoot posted:That’s what happens when capitalism steamrolls your entire generation. Nah, that's what happens when everyone keeps slapping one another on the back for creating a toxic community.
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boop the snoot posted:That’s what happens when capitalism steamrolls your entire generation.
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boop the snoot posted:That’s what happens when capitalism steamrolls your entire generation. these traits predate the French Revolution Jean-Paul Marat was a C-SPAM poster born two hundred and fifty years early
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Acebuckeye13 posted:these traits predate the French Revolution Ok but I’m telling you why these traits are around in 2021 They don’t exist out of thin air
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these idiot dems need to buck up and do exactly what was done to them and ram through everything they can during the 2 years they are going to be able to do it but they wont
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ded posted:these idiot dems need to buck up and do exactly what was done to them and ram through everything they can during the 2 years they are going to be able to do it We're going to find out what they actually want to do, because they do in fact have the power to do what they want to do. Case in point: they do not want to cut checks greater than $1400
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Godholio posted:I think he's saying it's a stupid loving derail and he's right. It was 50% effort cause the absurdity tripped me up but I can't keep up with the diminishing the anti capitalist sentiment thing
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the secret of teslas profit : selling credits to car makers  https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/31/investing/tesla-profitability/index.html quote:New York (CNN Business)Tesla posted its first full year of net income in 2020 -- but not because of sales to its customers.
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Isn't she the one who orchestrated a genocide? That's ongoing?
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People are literally dying from lack of covid relief checks because they are forced to run the gauntlet at retail stores or starve to death. Other countries have monthly covid checks but keep acting as if we don't know how to count to 2000 all while ignoring the fact that there is a huge difference between getting 2k all at once and getting 600 and then months later the remaining 1400.
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IIRC she’s the leader who got a Nobel Peace Prize and also defended the Rohingya Genocide.
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Nystral posted:IIRC she’s the leader who got a Nobel Peace Prize and also defended the Rohingya Genocide. This is my memory as well, but with gladhanding from Barry O.
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