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sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





Gripweed posted:

I always come down to “did this character talk like a regular person in the original?” If so, then they should talk like a regular person in the translation. If accuracy to the dialogue requires weird or stilted dialogue, it should be changed to reflect accuracy to the character.

no, they should all have texas accented english so that we know that we’re watching real dubbed anime and not something hollywood produced like avatar

tokin opposition posted:

I think all localization should make simple, innocent crossdressers into woke lib transsexuals

:yeah:

Kit Walker posted:

As someone for whom English isn’t their first language, and who has tried (unsuccessfully) to learn half a dozen other languages, I’m going to take the bold stance that English is actually stupid easy and the only hard part is the numerous weird exceptions to rules

The fact that it’s not a gendered language alone makes it way easier than every language that is

I am a native english speaker and I find myself lucky that there is so much english content

I have wanted to learn Korean but I haven’t found anything much that I want to read or watch except dubbed american shows and movies, unfortunately

I could probably make it a lifelong pursuit to learn Japanese because anime provides endless opportunities for listening practice. Of course, being able to speak (or write) is equally (or more) important than just listening, but I’ve yet to find a compelling creative output in that regard.

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sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





Popy posted:

just watch dubs ez

dunno how often it’s been said but the dungeon meshi dub is very good

It’s on par with the cowboy bebop dub although the energy for both anime is completely different

Casey Finnigan
Apr 30, 2009

Dumb ✔
So goddamn crazy ✔
tbqh I don't even watch that much anime or read that much manga all told but being able to play all the old second-rate RPGs that never got translated and released overseas has been a good motivator to learn Japanese

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
its me the guy who finally is getting around to watching my hero academia

gotta do something with this 30 day free CR trial

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

Dub is better

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002
Probation
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TSK TSK TSK

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


sb hermit posted:


It’s on par with the cowboy bebop dub although the energy for both anime is completely different

Ah, it's bad, I see

Oi spikeu

damn horror queefs
Oct 14, 2005

say hello
say hello to the man in the elevator
In the dungeon meshi dub, the actress who plays Nami in the Netflix OP live action show voices Marcille, and internet person ProZD aka Sungwon Cho plays Senshi... So, that's kinda cool I guess.

I haven't actually watched the English version because my partner viscerally hates dubs but I've been told it's good :v:

damn horror queefs
Oct 14, 2005

say hello
say hello to the man in the elevator
Is dungeon meshi socialist, tho?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

drat horror queefs posted:

Is dungeon meshi socialist, tho?

Laios gives his wages to his injured former comrades even when they're petit bourgeois. Dungeon Meshi is anarchist.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

drat horror queefs posted:

Is dungeon meshi socialist, tho?

yes, the dungeon is an elaborate metaphor for capitalism

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.
It's gay, that's kinda like being socialist if you think about it

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Dungeon Meshi is actually a lot like Ready Player One


e: Sentai Daishikkaku has been pretty fun so far. It’s nothing toooo original, but it’s entertaining. The premise is basically an inversion of the usual sentai plot. The heroes have long since defeated the villains and only the henchman are still alive, but they keep them around to have a mock fight every Sunday to pretend the villains are still a threat. Unsatisfied with this really weird status quo, one of the henchman (Soldier D) decides to fight back and disguises himself as a human to infiltrate the hero’s organization and undermine it from within. Only a couple episodes are out so far so I don’t have much to add but it’s been fun

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sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





Kit Walker posted:

Sentai Daishikkaku has been pretty fun so far. It’s nothing toooo original, but it’s entertaining. The premise is basically an inversion of the usual sentai plot. The heroes have long since defeated the villains and only the henchman are still alive, but they keep them around to have a mock fight every Sunday to pretend the villains are still a threat. Unsatisfied with this really weird status quo, one of the henchman (Soldier D) decides to fight back and disguises himself as a human to infiltrate the hero’s organization and undermine it from within. Only a couple episodes are out so far so I don’t have much to add but it’s been fun

I heard last season’s mahjong anime was reportedly quite mid (supposedly just a cute-girls-doing-cute-things cash grab), I still want to see it and was disappointed that it never seemed to get picked up

I hope this one gets picked up by CR since it seems quite fun

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Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

January 6 Survivor posted:

As someone who learned english as a second language and has been struggling to learn japanese for way longer than I will ever admit yeah no english is insanely easier to learn that japanese

Did the other language you knew use an alphabet similar to English? Because I imagine that probably makes a pretty huge difference when it comes to learning to read.

It might just be a personal thing, because I found everything except kanji (mainly writing them) and listening to fast speech (which is probably just something that requires a lot of practice and direct exposure) to be pretty simple. Kanji were literally the only thing I had to actively study in high school and the couple years I took it in college, because the grammar and vocabulary are both easy (the latter benefits heavily from each "letter" being a syllable*, so words are very rarely more than 4 or 5 "letters" long, which makes memorization easier).

* more accurately a "mora"

Mandoric
Mar 15, 2003

Ytlaya posted:

Did the other language you knew use an alphabet similar to English? Because I imagine that probably makes a pretty huge difference when it comes to learning to read.

It might just be a personal thing, because I found everything except kanji (mainly writing them) and listening to fast speech (which is probably just something that requires a lot of practice and direct exposure) to be pretty simple. Kanji were literally the only thing I had to actively study in high school and the couple years I took it in college, because the grammar and vocabulary are both easy (the latter benefits heavily from each "letter" being a syllable*, so words are very rarely more than 4 or 5 "letters" long, which makes memorization easier).

* more accurately a "mora"

The problem with separating kanji from the language is that the difficulty, or more properly complexity, is all with kanji and the words somewhere between customarily and perforce written with kanji (and knowledge of modern Chinese is at best of the dubious sort of value you'd have in trying to square modern French with Anglo-Norman loans, if in addition French were written in Greek or Cyrillic: lots changed in meaning in terms of getting kanji into Japanese, the 床 as "floor" example from a word that in Chinese means only "bed", but also lots changed in both Chinese and hanzi orthography in the intervening timeframe.)
You can make a solid argument that learning Japanese, as in the Yamato speech and the phonetic signs used to convey it, is easy, but on the other side of that is a not-wrong-per-se-but that full understanding and use of Japanese as it is actually written involves additionally learning two or three very inflected dialects of middle Chinese, otherwise dead like Latin, as well as a bespoke markup system.

Or, without inverting the concepts and just going with the standard conception, to have fully fluent Japanese you have all the heartache of English where many words mean roughly the same thing but are pronounced differently (say, あたま like head for the body part, かしら for more earthy compounds like those involving "chief", とう for newer prestige/technical compounds like those involving "capital", and ず for older prestige/technical compounds like those involving "cephalo-")
You additionally have the heartache that needing to recognize that all of those should be written down 頭, or conversely when reading aloud should be pronounced in their own way, and only the pronunciation (which you only have context clues for) clearly gives the proper meaning.
But then, not all words work like this; there's the inverse of はかる sextet: 図る, 測る, 計る, 量る, 諮る, and 謀る. All pronounced the same. The first is to plan or calculate individually; the second to calculate physical dimensions; the third to calculate conceptual or time dimensions; the fourth to calculate weight; the fifth to plan/calculate as a group; and the sixth to plan/calculate something vile--that is, in English they'd be a nest of various words that were clearly different in speech and writing, probably plan/measure/evaluate/weigh/consult/plot, but in Japanese they are only distinct in writing.

Those are just a couple examples, and I'm not going to go into deliberate wordplay like "your reporter took the train back to his office" (貴社の記者が汽車で帰社した--that is, きしゃのきしゃがきしゃできしゃした). There are a couple thousand for basic high school fluency, that is, the ability to understand a spoken dialogue, commit it to paper accurately, understand a printed excerpt, and read it aloud.

The bright side is that the average adult Japanese person's grasp of these is not entirely on point either, and there are established mechanisms for working around confusion, so you can be replacement-value functional long before you're perfect.

New New Fresh
May 26, 2013

sb hermit posted:

I heard last season’s mahjong anime was reportedly quite mid (supposedly just a cute-girls-doing-cute-things cash grab), I still want to see it and was disappointed that it never seemed to get picked up

I hope this one gets picked up by CR since it seems quite fun

It's fun if you've already seen other mahjong media (Akagi, Legendary Gambler Tetsuya, clips of that one dvd about how to cheat) but apart from that there isn't a whole lot of actual mahjong content. One episode is basically an ad for mahjong soul lol

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sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





New New Fresh posted:

It's fun if you've already seen other mahjong media (Akagi, Legendary Gambler Tetsuya, clips of that one dvd about how to cheat) but apart from that there isn't a whole lot of actual mahjong content. One episode is basically an ad for mahjong soul lol

Actually, the only mahjong anime that comes to mind for me is Saki. One of the main characters loves tacos, which I can empathize with despite the cultural boundaries.

Mahjong Soul Pon is a very funny series with all episodes at only a couple minutes each. Episode 6 is my favorite, really gets the yurucamp vibes down pat.

New New Fresh
May 26, 2013

My new gear...

Oh yeah the second season is airing next week

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


New New Fresh posted:

It's fun if you've already seen other mahjong media (Akagi, Legendary Gambler Tetsuya, clips of that one dvd about how to cheat) but apart from that there isn't a whole lot of actual mahjong content. One episode is basically an ad for mahjong soul lol

really wish they'd animate the kaiji mahjong arc

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Anything good airing except the train anime?

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

The xmen reboot went 0-60 pretty fast

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

pillsburysoldier posted:

The xmen reboot went 0-60 pretty fast

cyclops using the optic blasts to quickboost like he was a goddamn armored core was cool as hell but i haven't seen any of it past that

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genericnick posted:

Anything good airing except the train anime?

Laid back camp

Casey Finnigan
Apr 30, 2009

Dumb ✔
So goddamn crazy ✔
Bravern was pretty good. Better than Promare. I was glad I didn't know anything about it going in, probably the best way to watch it.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
I just watched all 13 episodes of "Uncle From Another World" in an afternoon because people were talking about it in another thread. I haven't laughed out loud so often at a show for a long time. Seems like there should be more though, but it ends in a fine place I guess.

New New Fresh
May 26, 2013

genericnick posted:

Anything good airing except the train anime?

Girls band cry and the fable are also pretty good

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

starkebn posted:

I just watched all 13 episodes of "Uncle From Another World" in an afternoon because people were talking about it in another thread. I haven't laughed out loud so often at a show for a long time. Seems like there should be more though, but it ends in a fine place I guess.

Not sure when there'll be another season. The first one went through so many production hiccups because of covid that I forgot about it and had to finish it months later.

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There's the manga, you can just switchover to the manga.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

genericnick posted:

Anything good airing except the train anime?

delicious in dungeon, and of course one piece

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

I'll read One Piece once it's done :colbert:

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

genericnick posted:

I'll read One Piece once it's done :colbert:

that's gonna be your whole life for months

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

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Question regarding the latest episode of Dungeon Meshi. Does Japan have a tradition of women putting fluids in the food of a man they're trying to court?

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.

War and Pieces posted:

Question regarding the latest episode of Dungeon Meshi. Does Japan have a tradition of women putting fluids in the food of a man they're trying to court?

No but anime perverts do

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

tokin opposition posted:

No but anime perverts do

this is an answer to many questions

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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War and Pieces posted:

Question regarding the latest episode of Dungeon Meshi. Does Japan have a tradition of women putting fluids in the food of a man they're trying to court?

There is an urban legend of love-mad girls putting fluids or hair or the like in the chocolates they give boys on Valentine's Day.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Watching Isekai Ojisan instead and it's pretty fun. One joke, but the joke is good.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

genericnick posted:

I'll read One Piece once it's done :colbert:

if you start watching the anime now you might be able to catch up before spoilers about laugh tale and what the one piece is flood the internet

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

scary ghost dog posted:

if you start watching the anime now you might be able to catch up before spoilers about laugh tale and what the one piece is flood the internet

:hmmyes:

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tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.
If you start watching one piece now you might live long enough to finish it within a natural human lifespan

All the real big fans are vampires or liches

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