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Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

One little thing I like about Halo is that a while ago someone did a comparison of inhabitable space rings, such as the Halo but also Niven's Ringworld (which is so huge it has a sun in the center) and some others.

Turns out that from all of the imagined ones, the Halo is by far the most feasible to build with currently known engineering principles.

Also I chuckled when you mentioned Lagrange points and someone said you played too much KSP.

Lagrange points are a bunch of specific points in space that come up where the gravitational pull from two bodies of mass (stars, planets, moons) cancel each other out perfectly. If you keep a spaceship out there it won't fall either way.

The thing is that the calculation of net gravitational pull when there's multiple bodies of mass involved is famously though, and in a space flight simulator it doesn't really come up much except at those specific edges. The KSP engine doesn't attempt to solve it, instead it has defined regions around each body where only that body's gravity applies, and as soon as you move out that region, all the gravity you experience is from the new region you're in (if you're way out there it defaults to the sun's gravity).

In other words, Lagrange points are one of the few things that cannot be realistically modelled in KSP. You'll learn a lot about spaceflight playing KSP, but not about Lagrange points.

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Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012


I think this classic vid makes your point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjlCVW_ouL8

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

The subtitle thing Youtube discontinued was where the community could submit subtitles in any language for a video and the original uploader of the video could quickly approve them.

This was nice and convenient and a cool way for viewers to help out content creators, which is why Youtube discontinued it.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012


lol

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Ah, I see you met Wheatley.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Why didn't the Halo builders make the sentinels out of the same stuff Guilty Spark was made out of?

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Yeah, but the sentinels explode after a couple gun shots, Guilty Spark is just immune.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

FrenzyTheKillbot posted:

if you had read the books up until this point

I don't know all that much about the Halo lore and all its additional materials and stuff.

I'd like it if at some point someone could make a post about all the non-game stuff that's out there such as books and how they tie in to the story. Are they retellings of the games? Original stories? And so on.

Perhaps it's still a bit early to ask for that and any post like that would be too spoilery, in that case feel free to hold off until later.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLP9L-qJqcI

This doesn't have much in the way of times. It says at 2:43 that by the time you get to a pressure of 1000 atm you have been falling for 12 hours. You would also be long dead.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

I was actually wondering if at the start of the Scarab fight, when you start shooting at guys on top of the thing, if you can go on one of those bridges and get on top of the Scarab yourself way earlier than "intended"?

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Re: meteorite chat

Have you ever read Ringworld by Niven?

The Ringworld is similar to a Halo but to a much, much larger scale. It is comparable in size to the entire orbit of the Earth around the sun, and it does in fact have a star in the middle. You could think of it as a slice of a Dyson Sphere. The ring is about 1.6 million km wide and several hundred million km in circumference, making the surface area of the Ringworld something like 3 million times the size of Earth's surface.

If you think constructing a stable Halo is a tough challenge, well, it's nothing compared to making a Ringworld.

Anyway, here's some Ringworld book spoilers:

A large part about the book is that the ring is somewhat deprecit and the people living on it forgot the history and engineering capabilities of their ancestors. The inner side of the ring, the one facing the sun, has ecosystems and everything, while the outer side is made of an extremely strong - but not quite unbreakable - material. The explorers find several places where the ring is broken.

One is a place where the ring was punctured by a meteorite, causing the air there to drain out through centrifugal force, making a gigantic cyclone storm like a bathtub draining. The storm is dangerous, but there is so much atmosphere on the entire ring that it'd still take ages to drain it to dangerously low levels.

The second is a place where the ring was punctured by a meteorite, but this time from "below", so from the outside. This caused an enormous mountain, with the ring's underside material jutting out of the rocks at some places. The top of the mountain, which is way above the atmosphere, has a hole through to the outside of the ring.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Hm, the start of human solar system colonization and the resulting war sounds quite similar to the events in The Expanse.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Anyway,

https://twitter.com/ChrisDAnimation/status/1466799389230387213

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Wait.

Did you just say they tested the children to see if they were 'lucky'?

People who are genetically 'lucky' is a very important part of the plot of Larry Niven's Ringworld.

That's got to be a subtle reference. No way that's a coincidence.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

So, how about that new Halo tv series, eh?

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Megillah Gorilla posted:

It's got some 'first episode CGI' issues, and there are a few incredibly cheesy moments, such as a few brief shots from first person view and the obligatory shield depleted/recharging noise during a firefight, but that's about it.

Also we see Master Chief's face.

As of the end of the first episode, it looks like it's doing its own thing. Yes, there's still the Covenant and rebelling human worlds, and the Spartan program and all that, but it's not just a remake of the first game.

And that's what seems to be driving certain segments of the online world insane.

I did chuckle at the natural cave formation reference.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Wow instead of it just being you and having only regular military mooks helping you, in this game they give you a whole squad of Halos. What a luxury!

Carbon dioxide fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Dec 2, 2023

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Cythereal posted:

The lore of the Grunts is one of the more :stare: things if you dive into Halo lore beyond the games. The Prophets are terrified of the Grunts and regret uplifting them because they do the krogan thing from Mass Effect where the Grunt homeworld is so absurdly lethal that the Grunts have to breed like rabbits just to sustain their species, and when removed from that environment immediately start reproducing out of control. The Prophets resorted to extreme lengths of oppression and indoctrination in an effort to keep the Grunts in line, and one of the bloodiest conflicts in Covenant history before humanity was a civil war started by the Grunts rebelling.

Post Halo 3, everyone in the galaxy is concerned that should life ever stop kicking the Grunts in the collective gonads for a few years they might become a serious galactic power in their own right.

That might lead to a very weird and interesting stalemate if someone were to drop some Flood on the Grunt homeworld.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Different topic but I was thinking about a funny concession basically every FPS including Halo makes.

The plot tells you "go do the thing at place it's very urgent otherwise hundreds of people will die".

Then after you clear an area of enemies you can just stand around, admire the graphics, smell the flowers (or whatever Grunt blood smells like), as long as you like and nobody minds and the game doesn't progress until you go to the next section of the map.

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Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Actually thanking the fans in-game is a really nice touch.

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