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Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Welcome to Pick's book of death fun hunt.

So basically, I bought a book!

It's a big book though, it has a lot of pages and the text isn't very big.

(I don't know why my hand suddenly looks huger, this book is massive.)

There are many topics. Sort of the whole kit and caboodle.

The contents are fairly unnerving, so if you're not comfortable with this sort of topic, I wouldn't read any further.

This is sort of the "authoritative" book, apparently, and commonly used as a reference. The author's grandkid is also a medical examiner and you can find a documentary about his work on Youtube which is also plenty depressing.

Here's a section on mass death events:

Wow, these are really rough on people. I'd never have thought--

--it even fucks up the dogs.

There are pictures in this book, but I'm not sharing them. I don't think it's appropriate.

These photos are oof.

So where does the fun hunt come in?

The fun hunt is you!

YOU:

- Give me a page number
- Give me a number between 1 and 60

And I will give you the #th sentence on the page you specified!

If you can then guess the topic of that chapter correctly, you get a prize. The price is not gory or gruesome! The prize instead is something nice

Happy guesswork!

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 08:42

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Oh, just to clarify, you get to guess after I give you the sentence. That way it's more fair!

Your sentence is PAGE 33, SENTENCE 3:

"For example, a golf club may be swung at a velocity of over seventy-five feet per second."

# ¿ Jan 10, 2021 05:41

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Slumpy posted:

420 page

47 number

Your sentence is:

"For this reason, the person who first finds the child should be interviewed to gain and understanding of the exact location where the baby was found and the position of the body at discovery."

Uh, I forgot, but pages 343-435 are off-limits moving forward. You've won the bad prize and uh, I don't like opening this chapter.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2021 05:44

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Supreme Allah posted:

BRAIN STUFFFFF

Incorrect! Your chapter was "Crime Scenes".

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Page 155

Sentence 20

"There is certainly nothing wrong with a several day or greater range when dealing with a time of death over 30 days."

Flimf posted:

whats the last sentence in the book? Thats not in like "afterwords" or something like that

"In a mummified body, immersion in the area believed to be tattooed in warm or hot water for as long as several hours, then scraping with a scalpel, may sometimes help to remove epidermis and significantly improve the image."

Simone Magus posted:

Jesus christ pick

Page 500

23

This page is mostly images and doesn't make it to sentence 23. The last sentence of this page is "The underlying skull was fractured."

Nigmaetcetera posted:

Page 1, sentence 2

"Open your mind to the wonders of forensic science."

# ¿ Jan 10, 2021 06:07

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Funky See Funky Do posted:

Estimating how old a corpse is.

The chapter is on the timing of death, so you are correct! You receive a prize!

# ¿ Jan 10, 2021 06:23

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Funky See Funky Do posted:

Page 303

Sentence 11

Here is your PRIZE:

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OMFG FURRY posted:

page 253

line 17

You found a citations page! The 17th sentence of the preceding page is: "Copper jewelry will leave a greenish-blue stain on the bone."

curlys gold posted:

page 666

sentence 9

You found an images page! The 9th sentence from the most immediately preceding page with 9 sentences is: "An exit wound of a fragment of a bone may also be slit-like, while a bullet remains in the body."

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Page 303

Sentence 11

"The forensic pathologist who is intimately concerned with the anatomic investigation of sudden, unexpected and violent death is confronted repeatedly by stances of far-advances disease and even disabling subjective and objective phenomena (i.e. high fever, jaundice, accumulation of large amounts of fluids in the abdominal cavity, vomiting, coughing of blood) and yet never induced the victim to seek readily available medical attention."

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

Page.. 69

Sentence 30.

Hit me.

"Applying the Locard Exchange Principle, identification, comparison, and association of microtraces will assist in determining impact points."

Pick fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Jan 10, 2021

# ¿ Jan 10, 2021 06:50

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OMFG FURRY posted:

PH of environment?

nope sorry, feel free to try a new page!

Page numbers 1-1273.

Long book!

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ClamdestineBoyster posted:

Something on bludgeoning?

Sorry, this applies to a broader topic! Chapters can be about specific kinds of deaths, but also specific kinds of scenes, techniques, and victims!

curlys gold posted:

I�m going with the obvious and boring �what is �Ballistics�?�

It is ballistics. You get a prize!

Funky See Funky Do posted:

What a lovely dog. Thank you!

Sudden, unexpected and violent death is what I guess the chapter is about.

Ehhh... sooort of.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2021 10:44

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Rock Paper Tongue posted:

Why the hell not, I'll give it a try

Can I get sentence 45 on page 900

Page 900 is pictures of the clothes of a man who died by lightning strike! So on page 91: ""However, it is significant that all testing done to determine the safety of these weapons has been carried out by the Taser manufacturers or on their behalf."

humpthewind posted:

Page 436
Sentence 5

"The cause-of-death opinion must be expressed in such a way that the public is served well and fairly."

HOMO ERECTUS posted:

Page 707
Number 33

"Cherry-red discoloration of the skin and underlying muscle surrounding a chest wound may be due to carbon monoxide from the yellow flame of the muzzle blast, but more likely is the result of oxyhemoglobin due to the presence of arterial blood from the injury of the lung or the left side of the heart."

Shinjobi posted:

Page 325

Sentence 36

"Otherwise, the extravasated blood that surrounds the vessels congeals and makes the task of demonstrating the vascular defect extremely difficult."

# ¿ Jan 10, 2021 10:50

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Will follow up on winners/not quite winners after some more content:

Patrick Spens posted:

Page 1128

Sentence 3

"Criminal abortion, whether self-induced or performed by a non-medical person, is generally done by administering toxic abortifaciants, such as quinine, or by applying intrauterine trauma using a variety of non-sterilized objects (metal rods, clothes hangars, wooden sticks, etc.)"

Colonel Cancer posted:

Page 444
Sentence 4

"Therefore, in the evaluation of a fatality due to choking, the pathologist should always consider the choking as no more than the immediate cause of death and operate under the assumption that the case study is incomplete until the underlying cause of death is identified."

mind the walrus posted:

Page 83

Sentence 55

"Although Dr. Whydoc did not have many details, she knew the case involved a 35-year-old woman on TPN following bowel resection."

Frank Frank posted:

Page 33

Number 33

"The second rule is in most beatings there is little, if any, blood spatter resulting from the first blow."

Arrhythmia posted:

PAGE 420

SENTENCE 69

RIDE OR DIE

This is in the forbidden murdered child chapter, so you get page 69 sentence 42: "Proximal space consists of the area between the body and its coverings (clothing, hair, or ornament), including primarily the skin surface."

Edgar Allan Pwned posted:

thinking hard whether i also want this book. pg 789, sentence 29

assuming the blocked pages are dead/abused kids

Correct, the blocked pages are the child murder/fatal child abuse chapter.

Page 789 is photos, so page 780: "Plastic wads retain their shape and diameter within the body, but old type felt and cardboard wads soak up blood and body fluids and swell, often causing the diameter to be altered."

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George H.W. oval office posted:

Page 666

Sentence 69 (35 otherwise)

The devils page the devils sex position

666 is a photos page, so 665: ""Bullets sometimes disintegrate upon impact on bone."

TheAardvark posted:

Page 1017 sentence 7

"We prefer to avoid the term 'brain death' because it fosters an erroneous impression here that there are two kinds of death, with brain death less certain and subordinate to cessation of cardiac action and respiration."

Big Beef City posted:

Page 91
Sentence 18

"The jurisdiction of the coroner/medical examiner in unexplained deaths may be exercised only if the manner of death is unexplained."

By popular demand posted:

Page 144 sentence 6
(Had to solve an adventure game puzzle related to the Christian revelations)

This is a references page! We have to go all the way back to page 141. "Potassium measurement in vitreous remains the most reliable chemical test for estimating the PMI in the majority of cases, with refinements of the procedure continuing to be described."

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Page 900
Sentence 11

Page 900 is mostly images, as is 899. On page 898: "The blast effect due to extreme changes in air pressure caused by the lightning discharge, occasionally throws the victim several feet, resulting in blunt injuries, and may rip his or her clothing, including shoes (See figs XVI-18 and XVI019a-b)."

PhysicsFrenzy posted:

This seems neat. Page 743, sentence 14

This is a seriously nasty image page! Followed by some more! So here it is on page 746: "The ability to walk more than 1000 yards while fatally wounded is remarkable."

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WINS:

Rock Paper Tongue posted:

The effects of electricity on the body?

Broadly correct! You win a PRIZE!

humpthewind posted:

"Determining cause of death"?

Sorry, you got unlucky and that's a generic sentence in a far more targeted chapter!

HOMO ERECTUS posted:

Is this a chapter about the effect getting hella shot with a gun does to the body

Correct enough! This is the chapter on shotgun wounds specifically.

Simone Magus posted:

I'm going to say, something involving identifying contusion marks

Simone Magus posted:

... was I right?

Sorry, not quite right!

Pick fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jan 11, 2021

# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 02:08

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TheAardvark posted:

i hope that ones actually from the chapter on autoerotic asphyxiation

This book has a bit on that topic, but the best is from Dead Men Do Tell Tales:

quote:

But accidental self-inflicted deaths can spring from darker roots. In these deaths a certain type of aberrant sexual behavior reaches a different climax than that expected. I am referring to autoerotic asphyxiation.

This practice is very old, and very dangerous. In his perverse 1791 novel, Justine, the Marquis De Sade describes a French nobleman who is in the habit of hanging himself nearly to death, to enhance the intensity of orgasm during masturbation by restricting the flow of oxygen to his brain. By slow degrees, over a period of months, the nobleman increases the duration of the torture and the tightness of the noose, until at last he kills himself. Sade was a keen and clinical observer of aberrant behavior�not least his own�and people would do well to heed this cautionary tale. Sad to relate, this bizarre practice still flourishes today and is a well-recognized pattern of deviant behavior, one that often leads to disastrous results.

Whether this self-torture �works,� whether there really is an intensification of sexual sensation in an oxygen-starved brain, or whether it is merely a ritualistic reenactment of execution fantasies or other sadomasochistic acts, I leave to the pathologists and the psychiatrists. What I do know, and what all of us who see these cases know, is that such behavior, once begun, goes from peak to peak and becomes increasingly dangerous the more it is practiced. And the strangulation ritual tends to be repeated, over and over again, over considerable periods of time. We know this because the beam, or pipe, or other solid object used to attach the other end of the rope is often found worn into a groove by long repetition of this activity.

Typically, the victim will knot a rope over a wooden beam, or a pipe in the basement, or a tree limb. He will then tie the other end of the rope around his neck, usually padding the neck with a towel or other materials to avoid rope burns or chafes. The hands may also be tied, usually with some sort of fast-release slip knot. Very often the victim is cross-dressed with panty hose and other items of women�s attire. Often, too, explicit photographic pornographic material will be found on the floor near the victim.

Those who indulge in these perilous high jinks are courting death. They believe they can stop at any moment, but what they do not realize is that the inhibition of oxygen to the brain can cause the loss of consciousness at any second, without any warning. No one sends the man in the noose a telegram saying: �Your brain is about to shut down.� And so they suddenly slump, inert, and then the constriction is intensified. Suffocation, asphyxiation without regaining consciousness, occurs in a matter of seconds. The victim will be found dead, in circumstances that would be excruciatingly embarrassing to him, if he were yet alive to see himself.

In the past, before this aberrant behavior was well documented, many of these cases were treated as homicides and suicides, instead of accidents. But crime marches on: murderers have learned this obscure wrinkle in human behavior and now attempt to set up false autoerotic asphyxiation scenes to throw investigators off the scent. In such cases, the presence or absence of the repetitive groove in the overhead beam can be all-important. Investigators will take note, too, of the fact that almost all practitioners of autoerotic asphyxiation are white males. No one knows why, but this is a statistical fact.

Nor are these deaths unusual. There is probably an average of one a month in my state, Florida. Occasionally we see some truly bizarre cases. Some men, literally afraid to risk their necks, have wrapped chains around their waists to cut off their breathing. This method of constriction is also effective in depriving the brain of oxygen. The victims then haul themselves aloft with chain hoists�from which they are later found dangling and dead. One wretch apparently enjoyed having his Volkswagen Beetle pull him slowly around with a chain wrapped about his waist. Unfortunately the chain got wrapped around a wheel and the car reeled him in, thrashing like a giant marlin, until he was crushed.

Another poor soul, for whom pain and pleasure were obviously closely akin, attached an electric train transformer to his penis with alligator clips and was in the habit of administering mild shocks to his genitals. Regrettably, on one occasion�the last!�the transformer shorted out, and he received the full 110-volt household electrical charge. He was instantly and ignominiously electrocuted. This case, when presented at one of our meetings, was interesting because the parents of the deceased had removed all evidence of the transformer before the police investigators showed up. They were understandably horrified and chagrined to discover their son dead under such sordid circumstances and did their best to conceal the manner of his death. But alligator clips leave very characteristic marks and these were plainly visible at the autopsy. After a few shrewd, discreet questions on the part of investigators, the unhappy parents broke down and revealed the full, shabby truth of the matter. The death was ruled accidental.

Milton Helprin, longtime chief medical examiner in New York City, used to tell the story of a young Irishman seen standing on the far reaches of a subway platform by several witnesses. At a certain point he suddenly and silently pitched forward right in front of an oncoming train. He was found dead beneath the wheels, horribly mangled. But his family was Catholic and did not readily accept the initial conclusion of suicide. They were quite certain their son had no reason to commit suicide, and in the end they were proved right. Helprin reexamined the mangled body and noticed tiny burn marks on the right thumb, index finger and the tip of the penis. He was able to reassure the family their son had died accidentally. He had been urinating on the subway tracks, and the stream had accidentally reached the third rail. The arc of falling water, rich with salts favoring conduction, instantly became an arc of lethal electricity. The lad was probably dead before he hit the tracks.

Of all the deaths I am called upon to investigate, suicides are among the most frustrating. Bones are my province, and most methods of suicide leave no evidence upon the skeleton. When we find a skeleton in the woods, fallen apart or disarticulated, I immediately look up, scanning the tree limbs above the skeleton, searching for some long-forgotten noose. As decomposition takes place in a hanging victim, the neck begins to stretch, until it may be several feet long. Finally the drying, mummifying skin will tear, head and trunk part company, and all falls down to earth, sundered in twain. The noose, however, may survive and point its hempen finger down at the truth.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 03:32

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TeachesOfPeaches posted:

Yeah that�s probably the most well-written account of the topic. Those people have seen some poo poo.

The section on what happens in a septic tank I found very interesting.

quote:

One of the most revolting, yet instructive, burial cases in my experience involved a terrible old man who lived in Miami and who finally died, aged ninety-five, a few years ago. This man was in the habit of threatening his neighbors with all sorts of dark menaces, telling anyone who would listen that he had murdered his son-in-law and disposed of the body in a septic tank, and he would do the same to anyone who crossed him.

No one took the old devil seriously, and he finally died. His house was sold, and the new owner opened the septic tank in the backyard, in order to clean it. The tank was a huge affair, ten feet long, with three concrete slabs over its inlet�and inside its dark, malodorous depths was found the half-skeletonized remains of a middle-aged man, with a .22-caliber bullet hole drilled neatly through the center of his forehead, right between the eyes. The old man had not been idly boasting: he really had murdered his son-in-law.

Septic tanks are common in Florida, where many neighborhoods still lack sewer lines. Few people have the stomach to look inside them, but they are interesting places, containing several widely disparate microenvironments. You would have to go to Hawaii to find the extraordinary range of atmospheric conditions that you encounter in a common septic tank, with its extremes of aridity and moisture, which in turn create conditions equally favorable to extraordinary preservation and extraordinary decay.

Within the average septic tank there is a large mass of dry material, which floats like a matted crust over the fluid below. The active decomposition takes place within the fluid, and on the underside of the mat. But above the mat all is quite dry, and beneath the fluid, at the very bottom of the tank, there is usually a very compact mass of clay and sand, devoid of oxygen. This dark world has its own peculiar fauna: very often, millions of cockroaches will scuttle and seethe in vast colonies above the mat, sometimes crawling up the drainpipes and back into the house above them.

The murdered son-in-law had been cast into the tank still clad in his shirt and trousers. There he had floated for years, face down, his hands and feet dangling down into the liquid. As the flesh on his limbs decomposed, the various bones gently fell away from the trunk and descended to the bottom of the tank, where they were embedded in the clay and sand, and in this oxygenless environment they were preserved from further decay. The skull, too, finally fell away as the neck vertebrae came loose and drifted down into the silt at the tank bottom.

But the rest of the body, which remained trapped in and above the mat for fifteen years, was badly damaged and almost unrecognizable. The cockroaches had nibbled at the upper surfaces, and the bacteria-rich fluid had gnawed away at the lower surfaces. They presented a scene of almost total dissolution.

But the preserved bones of the hands and feet, together with the skull, had survived and from these the unfortunate young man was finally and unequivocally identified. He had been missing for a decade and a half, and his homicidal father-in-law had been a spry old eighty years of age when he killed the younger man, single-handedly lifted the concrete slab at the entrance to the septic tank, and stuffed the body in. The aged murderer was beyond earthly justice, but the case of his missing son-in-law could finally be closed.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 04:28

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quote:

I know of one remarkable case in which a young man killed himself utterly by accident after he dressed himself up as a vampire, to go to a Halloween party. He wore a shirt stained with fake bloodstains, and beneath the shirt he had placed the end panel of a wooden apple crate, made of soft pine. As a final touch, for gory effect, he planned to appear at the party with a �stake� driven into his own heart. The stake would be transfixed in the soft pine panel underneath his shirt. Unfortunately, things did not work out as planned. The youth opted to use a sharp-pointed knife in lieu of a stake, and to tap the knife into the pine panel with a hammer. Obviously he believed the hidden wooden crate panel would shield him from harm. It didn�t. The soft wood split easily beneath the hammer-driven knife point, and the blade plunged deep into the young man�s heart. His last words, as he staggered out of his room, were a gasp of disbelief: �I really did it!� Then he toppled forward, dead. This was no true suicide, but instead an absurd and tragic accident.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 06:40

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Edgar Allan Pwned posted:

thinking hard whether i also want this book.

Oh also my advice from someone who reads too much generally, and too much of this stuff, is try stuff like Dead Men Do Tell Tales first. This one is very interesting from a purely dry, scientific standpoint but hoh-poo poo the photos are something else. The book even says they're not in color to discourage gorehounds, because the authors will send you the color ones if you have a legitimate need. However, they definitely confirm some things you might wonder about as "tall tales", e.g. that small pet dogs absolutely do nibble on corpses if they're stuck in the house. And apparently they love the taste of face.

Also, if you have a male corpse that died in the heat and produced a lot of methane in the decomposing scrotum, you can vent it off with a special needle and ignition of the scrotal gasses ( :stonk:

)

Dead Men Do Tell Tales is also mostly crimes; this book is mostly not-crimes. But weirdly a lot of the not-crime ones are way worse. Window-washer falls, "brick fall from height", etc. In most of these cases, there's not really any mystery why someone died, it's just how to dot the i's and cross the t's for the job as an actual profession. It's not like "woah check out this dog-eaten face" it's like "you might think some really heinous crime happened here with this fleshed face, but it was just the dog, you can see the signs it was the dog [here, here here]. This person died of old age, nothing sinister happened in this situation." It's not intended to be reader-friendly, it's an industry reference book.

Pick fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Jan 11, 2021

# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 07:24

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Death's Acre is good. tbh I cannot stand anything by Mary Roach, I hate her writing style and think it's twee, self-aggrandizing, and disrespectful.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 07:32

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CaptainSarcastic posted:

Yeah, these weren't personal recommendations, although I think I did read at least some of the Bass book. The subject matter just brought those vague memories to mind.

Yeah no worries, just some personal input since we're on the topic :v:

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Pick fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jan 11, 2021

# ¿ Jan 11, 2021 07:35

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

I'll do more of these when I get home, thanks for your patience!

I strongly recommend the tales book, it's not only very compelling and easy to read with a conversational style, but there actually aren't any photos. So if you're a normal person who finds this kind of interesting but doesn't want to look at yucky photographs, it's a really good choice.

# ¿ Jan 12, 2021 01:26

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I'll be catching up in a moment. Pause on new sentences please, this is harder to follow than I expected! :doh:

# ¿ Jan 13, 2021 07:42

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TheAardvark posted:

People that got the plug pulled?

Nope, has to do with a specific way of dying that tends to yield a death people may see as incomplete.

Funky See Funky Do posted:

The awesome power of electricity to kill and maim! Are figs XVI-18 and XV1019a-b incredible pictures and will you post them if they're not too gory?

It is indeed electricity death! I may post some photos from this chapter of things that aren't people (I think there's some photos of shoes messed up etc). This thread will not post gore photos, though.

Edgar Allan Pwned posted:

was originally gonna go with choking on various materials, gonna now go with shotgun bullet wounds

[pending, looking up again]

Arrhythmia posted:

My sentence was from the Chapter On How The Physical Location Affects A Dead Body

Suuuper close, I'll give you 1/2.

TeachesOfPeaches posted:

Communicating findings with the public/discussing them with members of the media?

Nope, dinged again on a boring all-purpose sentence in a more specific chapter. (Bear in mind, as a reference book, there's a lot of this kind of redundancy since a lot of people never "read" this book, they go to applicable chapters.)

Patrick Spens posted:

Jesus. Maybe the chapters about various poisons?

Hmmm, probably another 1/2er.

mind the walrus posted:

Gonna guess this is a chapter on toxins/poisons/allergies. Someone that young on TPN whose TPN is of interest in cause-of-death went out of either dehydration from making GBS threads themselves to death or a bad, bad reaction to something they shouldn't have had. Like if this were the chapter on stabbing, I doubt the TPN and bowel resection is relevant unless it's like, her surgeon stabbing her over unpaid medical bills.

If that's too vague gonna put my final chips down on poison, which I think is more of a semantics issue.

ding ding ding! Right on. 100%.

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HugeGrossBurrito posted:

just flip pages and point and post what comes up, thank you.

"The anus is occasionally dilated as a result of shrinkage at the perianal tissues and sometimes the rectal wall protrudes through the opening, like a prolapse."

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Page 222

Sentence 13

This is an images page. For previous page 221, ""On occasion, body hair, particular public axilliary, pubic, or perineal hair may provide additional clues toward identification."

I. M. Gei posted:

Does this book have a chapter on sex- or masturbation-related deaths? Cuz I bet that poo poo is a fuckin� adventure.

It has incidences like that, but the topics are more by means of death. So there's some of that in the asphyxiation chapter, but it's not separated as to like the... motive I guess you'd say? Accidental gunshot wounds are in the same chapters as deliberate ones.

Geemer posted:

Hit me!

Page 1234, sentence 56.

"Mutilation of the face may by injury or postmortem decomposition of the body may render conventional identification procedures unsuitable."

Space Race Riot posted:

Page 222, sentence 13 if you please

This is an images page. For previous page 221, ""On occasion, body hair, particular public axilliary, pubic, or perineal hair may provide additional clues toward identification."

low key sex master posted:

- Give me a page number

Page 572

- Give me a number between 1 and 60

43

I'll give you two sentences from this image caption. "Entire knife left in wound. Handle of knife was bent over."

Admiral Goodenough posted:

- Give me a page number

177

- Give me a number between 1 and 60

56

Thanks Pick!

E. Changed my page number a little so it doesn't risk being in the introduction or anything

"In general, the law has traditionally permitted next-of-kin to have greater authority to prevent an official autopsy after burial than before because concerns as to the sanctity of the sepulcher or grave prohibited disturbing the final resting place, except in the most extreme circumstances."

# ¿ Jan 13, 2021 08:00

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Colonel Cancer posted:

I've read a pretty entertaining book on crime scene cleanup when I was in college, I think it was titled Mop Men. Really gruesome.

Also page 444 is clearly the Asphyxiation, Blockages and Choking chapter.

It is indeed.

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HOMO ERECTUS posted:

Page 81
Number 66

"The collection technique is not trivial either." (Oooh, bad luck!)

GrouchoClub posted:

Page 117

Sentence 40

please and thank you.

"The legal requirements to exhume a lawfully buried body vary widely in different jurisdictions and may be governed by federal, state, or local laws applicable to where the body is buried."

Poo In An Alleyway posted:

Ooooh this is a fun thread!

Page number: 1097
Line number: 18

"- spillage of atheromatous material from the plaque, with partial or total occlusion"

Dumb Sex-Parrot posted:

I'd like a page 137, line 13 thanks!

"Concentrations in the urine are stable, reflect the antemortem findings in the serum, and have been judged to be helpful in the postmortem diagnosis of inflammation."

magic cactus posted:

page 222, line 22 please!

Image page! Your previous page 211 contains, ""Many drugs can be detected by analysis of the hair shaft and allow for an approximate timeline of when drugs were used."

Dick Bastardly posted:

page 6
sentence 9

"Great Britain was much slower than other European countries to adopt the practice of complete autopsies."

ExecuDork posted:

This is great, thanks Pick!

Page 803
Line 16

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Image page! However, enough caption. "The hemohorrage into the upper eyelid occurred as a result of slipping and striking the floor when the body was being cut down."

quote:

Also, not for the competition, but I'd really like to know what the first rule is in most beatings, so page 33 number 30.

It's actually an earlier sentence than that with some explanation, but it's "The first is that a few bloodstains do not a pattern make!" This is the first exclamation point I've seen in this book which is saying a lot.

Lil Peeler posted:

Page 13

Sentence 37

"Until the development of the medical examiner system, Dallas County had had ten Justices of the Peace who conducted death investigations with autopsies being performed only if deemed necessary."

PokeJoe posted:

page 637

sentence 12

"Pseudo-tattooing is the term used to describe tatting produced by something other than gunpowder."

Pick fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Jan 13, 2021

# ¿ Jan 13, 2021 08:07

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Aegis Bear posted:

Rather than ask for a specific page number, do they go into what happens to you in a tornado or hurricane? If a tornado can bury a plastic lawn chair into a concrete wall, it must be insane on a fragile human body.

I'm partially doing this to explore the book, so the answer is... probably? But the index is very technical in the sense that, for example, a hurricane death would probably be under a form of blunt trauma death, and a hurricane death would probably be in the drowning or blunt trauma sections. It's not very concerned with the circumstances, it's literally what happened immediately to a body. There's a chapter on drowning for example, a cursory look suggests most of these are natural drownings but it doesn't explain much of how they ended up in a situation where their bodies drowned.

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Also, are there any books that go over this in a similar formulaic, scientific way without any pics? It�s hard to look this stuff up online without accidentally stumbling into Rotten.com poo poo.

Dead Men Do Tell Tales is still probably my go-to for interesting reading with no pics, many of these do have pictures (as they're references) or they're just weirdly twee gorehound rubernecker books. It's super hard to find something reasonably in the middle.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2021 08:18

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Captain Jesus posted:

This book reminds me of the forensic medicine course I took in law school. We were shown many horrifying photos of dead bodies that the good old shock websites couldn't have prepared me for. The worst part was probably how it was all business as usual for the lecturers and how mundane many of the deaths were - like some lady accidentally falling out of a window and ripping half her face off one the way down by hitting a door that was left open on the ground floor.

It's a bit of an oversimplification, but by and large the mundane/accidental deaths are way the worst and most gruesome in this book. I cannot BELIEVE how easy it is to shear off your face, you got that one in one. Falling on a broken pane of glass? Do NOT do that.

e: also there's one that's like "whoops this guy died of completely natural causes and was just buried at sea but he formed adipocere enough that he was bobbing around for over a year" (wtf??)
ee: don't run over snorklers in your boat (sorry, trying to look up that hurricane answer)

Pick fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Jan 13, 2021

# ¿ Jan 13, 2021 08:19

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Prizes are coming, thank you for your patience!

And remember, don't die in a Monday one way!

# ¿ Jan 14, 2021 23:50

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 08:42

Pick: Jul 19, 2009; Nap Ghost

Poo In An Alleyway posted:

Is Pick ever coming back to give us more hosed up excerpts?

Oops yeah I forgot to bookmark this lol

# ¿ Jan 29, 2021 19:44

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