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It’s hard to win big on the dark side. It’s a grind (like poker). Definitely steady income and you'll have lots of up sessions. The light side is more fun and if you get a shooter on a streak, there’s no stopping the chips coming into the rail. And everyone else wins, too. I also want to advocate against bubble craps. If the casino didn’t need the tables to compete with other casinos, the entire floor would be slots. Bubble craps is the way they see to eventually fire all the dealers. Vegas already axed the box people years ago.
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Bubble craps has its place for noobs, imo. Since it's less intimidating. God drat I love craps.
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Jan 12, 2021 05:09
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Also, if you are in some crazy state that advertises 'card craps', do NOT play. That poo poo's bizarre.
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Jan 12, 2021 05:30
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I've seen card craps in reservation casinos but no where else
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Jan 12, 2021 06:50
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California only has card craps.
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Jan 12, 2021 15:20
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Looking to shoot some dice with my boys behind the rite aid, any tips on joining a game run by strangers?
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Jan 12, 2021 15:25
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TheReverend posted:God drat I love craps.
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Jan 12, 2021 15:38
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Is there a good source to learn some of the terminology with the game and bets? Or should I just search "craps for dummies" and pray my safe search holds?
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Jan 12, 2021 16:53
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the op link is very good. wizard of odds will teach you just about everything
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Jan 12, 2021 16:57
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Yeah wizard of odds, and practice play (for free) on bovada is how I learned.
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Jan 12, 2021 17:42
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Murmur Twin posted:Generally speaking, it’s betting on 5/6/8 and then betting on the field every throw. So if you have, say, $10 on 5 and $12 on 6/8, you make a $10 field bet for every throw and: I remember when I played the don't alot I use to play the 'reverse' iron cross which I think involved a lay strategy on the 4 / 12 I would have to go back and look at a table to remember how I did it. I went through a pretty long 'don't' phase where I stood in the corner of the table next to the dealers and silently played the don't
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I don't have very many crazy craps stories, sadly none that happened to me. I could only dream of a sweet 20 minute roll. I use to go on a gambling boat back home that would drive off the coast into international water where gambling was legal, and on that boat I saw someone make like 18 grand on the hard 8. He started I think with 50 and someone rolled a hard eight three times in a row. I also saw on that boat, someone win the bet where a shooter has to roll every single number on the dice. Forget the name of that bet. I never liked that bet because it took forever for the dealers to set up and slowed down the game. I also got misdealt on the field several times at the Paris in Vegas. Paid me probably 150 dollars on the 'no field' 5. Picked it up, and didn't say anything.
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craps is popular at the casino near me but honestly if you want the real deal you go a few blocks down and shoot craps with the city legends
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Snazzy Frocks posted:the op link is very good. wizard of odds will teach you just about everything Either the OP was edited or I can't read (likely answer), thanks.
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Jan 12, 2021 19:45
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Is there a guide online or even a goddamn mobile game that teaches and explains how to play craps like I’m five? I wanted to play so badly my last time in Vegas but I didn’t wanna be one of those guys who needed an explanation because I can’t just walk up to a craps table with no loving idea what to do ETA I’m a loving idiot who can’t read life is killing me fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jan 12, 2021 |
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Jan 12, 2021 20:38
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life is killing me posted:Is there a guide online or even a goddamn mobile game that teaches and explains how to play craps like I’m five? The link in the OP has a "craps trainer" on it, not sure if its any good yet.
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Jan 12, 2021 20:40
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ASAPI posted:The link in the OP has a "craps trainer" on it, not sure if its any good yet. Yeah I posted before I saw the link in the OP and now I feel like a dumbass
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Even if you know all the rules, it will be a little intimidating at first. For best results, try to find a low-stakes, half-full table. You don't want to be alone, because you learn what not to do by watching other players. And if you can take the place at the end of the hook nearest the dealer, you can quietly ask questions if you get stuck. The other thing to remember: you don't have to bet. You can stand there for a really long time just watching once you've bought in. Some players stand there all afternoon waiting for their big lay bet on the ten/four. If you're really nervous, just play the pass line for a while. The most frequent mistake rookie players make is hassling the dealers about getting paid when it's not their turn to get paid. Generally, the payment sequence is:
It sort of goes from the players' side of the table to the dealers.
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Jan 12, 2021 21:02
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One app I use to scratch my craps itch is Aw Craps! On the iPhone. Just run through rolls and see how things play out. It’s an RNG so not exactly the same but helped refine my strategy of pass lines and buy the 6/8, throw any random $1 chips onto the hard ways. I’m roughly even over thousands of rolls but it’s fun for killing a minute or two. Also explains why some bets are really bad like the big 6/8 some tables have.
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Double posting about odds. Learning the numbers is pretty easy. It's all about how many ways dice can make each number. Ways to make a 7: 1-6, 2-5, 3-4, 4-3, 5-2, 6-1 = 6 ways 6 or 8: 5 5 or 9: 4 4 or 10: 3 11 or 3: 2 12 or 2: 1 So, for odds bets, you get the actual, real odds of the roll falling. If you have odds on a 6, it will pay $6 for every $5 you bet (6 ways to make a 7, 5 ways to make a 6). Odds on a 5 will pay 6:4 which is 3:2. This is why you should always have an even number odds behind a 5/9 Pass bet. ("The odds are even and the evens are odd") Odds on a 4 will pay 6:3 which is 2:1. For Place bets, you don't get true odds. The casino gets the difference! If you place a 6 and win, it will pay 7:6. A "proper" Place bet on a 6-8 will be divisible by 6. You can bet differently, but you're not getting paid what you should when you win. If you place a 5 and win, it will pay 7:5. Bets divisible by 5 are perfect. If you place a 4 and win, it will pay 9:5. Same way, bets are divisible by 5. 4 and 10 are a special case, since 4-10 place bets > $20 will (usually) turn into Buy bets. This means you pay a $1 "vig" on the bet and you get true odds. So a $25 buy on a 4 that wins will pay 2:1 - $1, or $49.
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Is craps generally easy to find a place to play? I just got the casino bug before Covid hit and played blackjack but on a friday/saturday night I spent too much time wandering around looking for a seat.
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So after playing around on an iPhone craps app (craps master 3D I think) I think I’ve got it somewhat down? I just played practice where money is unlimited but it really helps me to learn while actually doing the thing I wanna learn. Not that I won’t forget all this poo poo by the time I go to Vegas or NOLA again. Okay so can anyone confirm a few things so I know I’m not getting shot mixed up: 1) if I play don’t pass, I have to roll a 2 or 3 to win, or any other number besides 7 or 11 is the point...if I now bet on the point and lay the odds, that means that since I’m playing don’t pass, if I roll a 7 I win the don’t pass bet and the lay right? 2) if the above is true and after my come out roll I bet on don’t come, then roll a 4, if I roll a 7 to win I get the 4 winnings and the point winnings plus the don’t pass? 3) likewise if I instead bet on come and then roll a 4, I have to roll a 4 my next turn to win, right? If I roll the 4, do I lose the don’t pass bet? 4) is my understanding correct that if I have lay bets on any numbers, those bets stay up and keep winning on 7 (assuming don’t pass) until I roll one of those numbers? Some of this may seem obvious but I’ve mostly stayed on don’t pass and haven’t ventured into betting beyond the pass lanes. I still don’t understand big 6/8, or buy. I kind of get the place bets but doing the math is too much for me at the moment. Like, what kind of math whiz do I have to be to have all these lay and come bets going on along with a pass lane, but also play a place bet? Does one cancel another out?
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 pro starcraft loser posted:Is craps generally easy to find a place to play? life is killing me posted:1) if I play don’t pass, I have to roll a 2 or 3 to win, or any other number besides 7 or 11 is the point...if I now bet on the point and lay the odds, that means that since I’m playing don’t pass, if I roll a 7 I win the don’t pass bet and the lay right? quote:2) if the above is true and after my come out roll I bet on don’t come, then roll a 4, if I roll a 7 to win I get the 4 winnings and the point winnings plus the don’t pass? If you roll a 7, you win $10 + $30 (odds pays 1:2 for a 4). If you bet a Don't Come, and you roll a 4, that would lose your Don't Pass bet, and your DC would be on the 4. quote:3) likewise if I instead bet on come and then roll a 4, I have to roll a 4 my next turn to win, right? If I roll the 4, do I lose the don’t pass bet? I'm confused by this question, and didn't read the "Don't Come" in your prior quote at first. Let's use this example:
If the shooter rolls a 6, your Don't Pass bet loses. Your DC does stay up as a contract bet and could win on the come out roll on a 7. It's one of the few times the Don't and the Dos win together. quote:4) is my understanding correct that if I have lay bets on any numbers, those bets stay up and keep winning on 7 (assuming don’t pass) until I roll one of those numbers? Big 6/8 is a poo poo bet, never do it. You should place a 6/8 instead (or Hop the 6/8) Buy bets really only are for "places" on the 4+10. There are two kinds, and depends on the casino/jurisdiction. They are: vig up front (boo) and vig on win (yay!). The vig is 5% of the bet, rounded down (so a $39 Buy bet is still $1, but a $40 Buy is $2). For a vig up front, you buy a 4 for $25, you give the dealer $26. If the shooter hits a 4, you get 2:1 - $1, or $49. Each win you have to pay that $1. Vegas casinos don't require that $1 up front, so you give the dealer $25, and then you only pay the vig when you win. You can technically buy other numbers, but nobody does and you'll stop the action cold if you ask to do so. It will be confusing for the dealers, all the players will look at you and laugh. I have learned this lesson for you. bort fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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On the come out roll a don't pass bet will push on a 2 or 12 roll, depending on the table (This enables the house to have an edge instead of the player) Snazzy Frocks fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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Jan 13, 2021 03:40
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 Novice players playing the Don'ts breaks my brain, evidently.
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bort posted:
The video in the OP says that if you pay the vig only on a win, that buying the 5 and 9 is a better bet than placing. Don't be intimidated!
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bort posted:
This is amazing, thank you.
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i know it's not the most rational bet but you never lose on big 8
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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:The video in the OP says that if you pay the vig only on a win, that buying the 5 and 9 is a better bet than placing. Don't be intimidated! bort fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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Jan 13, 2021 14:55
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I would agree and say the slight advantage of the buy5/9 over place in vig on win situation isn't worth the hassle. (I've never heard vig before I've always thought it was called commission)
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Jan 13, 2021 15:54
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any of you ever find a decent craps simulator on pc?
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I personally use craps trainer Android app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.e7systems.craps the dev was pretty cool about some feedback I gave him and even implemented some of my suggestions. It might be a bit of doozy on the interface but I feel it gives you the best play simulation you can find once you get it.
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Snazzy Frocks posted:(I've never heard vig before I've always thought it was called commission) "Vigorish" has a pretty negative connotation, conjuring up visions of loan sharks breaking fingers and the like. But it's pretty much the same thing.
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craps is the best game to play with a group because as long as you are not preventing someone from playing, you can just hang out as long as you want. my buddies and i have spend hours at a table having drinks, betting on each other, and then betting on random other shooters occasionally.
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Agronox posted:"Vigorish" has a pretty negative connotation, conjuring up visions of loan sharks breaking fingers and the like. But it's pretty much the same thing. It’s also from a Hebrew word so there’s also very deep anti-Semitic feelings about it as well. Can’t forget that beauty.
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Jan 13, 2021 20:26
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interesting so that terminology is just a dig at the casino's greed, so to speak?
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Snazzy Frocks posted:interesting so that terminology is just a dig at the casino's greed, so to speak?
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Craps owns. There is no better feeling than when you get on a hot streak and are just winning buckets of money for the entire table and everyone loves you. Never bet don't pass because that ruins the social aspect and the difference is tiny anyway. 
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Sometimes you have to roll the hard six 
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Jose Valasquez posted:Never bet don't pass because that ruins the social aspect and the difference is tiny anyway. Actually it's great fun to be the Don't Pass player because who cares, gently caress em, if they don't like it they can leave
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