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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I apparently bough the Harley Quinn/Betty & Veronica crossover at some point, and decided to take a look at it and... the letterer is doing something that makes sense but is really jarring. Most speech is in all caps as per usual, but they're going to regular upper-and-lower case to represent whispers and... it weirds me out. I think it would bug me less if it was ALL lower case. And I don't think I've ever seen this done before.

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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
It seems... fine... I only managed about one issue so far because that lettering quirk plus the clash of having just watched the Kaley Cuoco Harley show made it a little hard to reconcile. The latter is especially notable because Dini and Andreyko have a very specific TAS voice for these characters, and it's very odd seeing that when my brain wants Lake Bell's Ivy, and I also can't get the show's jokes in the college episode out of my mind when the big hook of the mini is apparently 2 16 year old girls in Halloween costumes being indistinguishable from 2 grown women in their mid 30s.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Issue 2 and I don't know why I was surprised when Mr Lodge announced the entertainment for his gala: It's Zatanna

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Him and Christopher Lee, doin' God's work.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Skwirl posted:

Yeah, they're all different stories that just happen to all end with 4 dead Nazis.

Can you imagine being his wife and asking "so honey, how was your day?"

Roz was the inspiration for Big Barda, so I imagine her response was "Oh, only 4 this time? You'll do better nice time, hon"

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Also this came out last year

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
There's already some Black Label stuff on it, and some weird random Wildstorm and ABC books. By sheer virtue of DC being more aggressive in gobbling up indie stuff and actively trying to be in that marketplace a DC library app/service has the potential to be more interesting that Marvel Unlimited.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
They also made a big stink about Arkham Asylum and I don't think they have Serious House On Serious Earth on there?

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Better not be about that nerd Jace Beleren! :colbert:

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Oh, 2 out of 3 ain't bad, I guess. (I joke, Ral's cool, but I tend to play W B and G way more than Izzet)

Edit: Oh, I just realised all 5 colours are represented with those 3!

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Didn't they recall one of the titles really early on because you saw Batman's dong in one panel?

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
So swears: OK, loving: not OK, Bat-cock: extremely not OK.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

A Strange Aeon posted:

Is there really an audience for this kind of thing? It just seems completely excessive in a dumb way. I mean, I haven't read it, so maybe there's a really meaningful and entertaining reason she's using Superman's spine and skull as a whip.

I'll admit I'm less susceptible than most, but given people here loved Jason Aaron's Thor, I'd say yes. And don't dare tell me that this is that much more edgelord or 'airbrushed on van' than "Gorr The God Butcher".

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
There are, of course, far better reasons to say this, but gently caress Warren Ellis.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
They've backported a bunch of their mature readers stuff into Black Label.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I remember her characterisation being really inconsistent as well. She pops up in... the Terra miniseries that spun into Conner and Palmiotti's Power Girl, I believe and she's basically a 20-something burnout getting drunk with a lovely boyfriend.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Yeah, I think the idea in X-Men #1 is he's the baby of the group, and because writers in general are a bit fuzzy on age vs behaviour for kids, him being a younger teen equated to still thinking girls have cooties, while Scott, Warren and Hank are 'old enough' to be interested in romance/sex.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I think people didn't like how it was framed as Jean outing him 'for his own good' instead of what I think Bendis might have been aiming for, her being a confidante.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Male-identifying? Like, there's Shatterstar and Daken, but the latter definitely falls into the 'amoral hedonist that sleeps with anyone' territory. Most of the others that jump to mind are women.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Skwirl posted:

Prodigy, Rictor.

Prodigy is fair, I just associate him more with the Young Avengers now.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I mean, even just from the major X-Men, you've got Kate Pryde and Storm. And Rachel Summers probably counts in that list too.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Isn't it Yukio that's usually held up as the example of Storm being bi?

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I think it's easy to assume people, esepcially queer and femme identifying people, saw the mohawk look and went "step on me with those Docs, queen", but Claremont definitely had a thing for writing WLW stuff.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Random Stranger posted:

So is it me, or does Countdown make absolutely no sense?

It's not you! :v:

I think part of the issue is Morrison only gave DC a loose outline of what they were planning for Final Crisis, so editorial kinda just... guessed.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
It didn't even work when they tried it again later with Brightest Day, which also had a bunch of tie-ins as I recall. And the afterthought JLI series that ran in parallel only had one or two and worked much better.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Random Stranger posted:

The only thing I remember about Amazon Attacks is



so I've got no clue why they're attacking on one page in Countdown, what happened, or why Amazons who just attacked Washington DC are running women's shelters in Gotham after it...

Tying Countdown into everything just makes it totally unreadable. And yet here I am.

Oh that one I know, and the best part is they literally poo poo-canned a ton of groundwork Rucka had been laying for a conflict between the US and Themyscira for about 3 years (the well-known arc with Diana fighting Medusa has a subplot where Artemis and Phillipus are at the White House listening to the president give veiled threats to attack them unless they give up their technology like the purple ray and invisible jet) to have a terrible plot where the Amazons are all cartoon misandrists that murder men on sight and at the last second it's meant to tie in because SURPRISE it was because of Granny Goodness all along.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

The letterer deserves a lot of credit there, the repeated sound effects add a lot, because otherwise you'd think she only smacked Wonder Woman with him once.

e: Oh wait, that's Donna, right? Well, she was Wonder Woman for 5 minutes in Heinberg's run, so I'm technically not wrong!

Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Feb 17, 2021

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I think people just like the Spawn cartoon because Keith David voiced Al.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I'm not sure which one should be offended by that.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I'd argue Seth is a decent actor (mostly when he's not the one in charge of the writers room, although he has his moments on Orville) and he does have his own production company

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Like any anthology line, Elseworld is hit or miss. You get stuff like Gotham By Gaslight and Kingdom Come, where the new setting or genre twist adds a new take and says something, and then there stuff like JLA Act Of God (where God takes everyone's superpowers and Wonder Woman becomes Catholic because she didn't have faith before, I guess?) or Catwoman Guardian Of Gotham (which rides that line between camp and gross that a lot of Jim Balent art does, but is pretty funny in how blatant the reversal is. Selina has a Cat-Signal, a Cat-Mobile, and her Alfred is a sexy French maid!)

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Hal Jordan is honestly the most egregious considering at that time the most visible GL outside of comics was John Stewart, to the point where for a whole generation, he basically is the only Green Lantern they're aware of. So logically making him the main GL would've made sense for a big time relaunch. But nope, Geoffy boy had to bring back the world's dullest white man.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Am I wrong in saying SSOC adapted the actual prose stories more than the regular book which kinda did it's own thing?

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
As a comic book fan, I understand that a doctorate means you can prescribe drugs, invent rayguns, identify ancient artefacts and fly spaceships. Oh, and fight crime on the side.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

NoneMoreNegative posted:

Chatting today someone mentioned 'Does Superman ever take a day off' and it reminded me of _____ who never stops and has a constant relay of super jobs needing doing beamed to him. I read the books years back but the name escapes me?

The Samaritan from Astro City. It's the basis of the very first issue

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I dropped it as soon as they started the multiverse bullshit. There were some solid ideas based on hindsight, like increasing the diversity in Sunnydale by adding Rose and Wood to the cast, acknowledging Xander's toxic Nice Guy character, having Willow be out from day one (and both using that to cover that it is a bit easier for a queer girl in SoCal to find support in 2021 vs 1996, and that 'nerdy hippie' is actually likely to be pretty popular these days) and having Cordelia be much nicer from day one and letting Harmony be the Mean Girl. Oh and Kendra surviving long enough to have a character.

But the multiverse stuff immediately shifts focus to this being a deviation from the Real Canon. Blah.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Sentinel Red posted:

What in the absolute living gently caress is this heresy? S1-3 Acid-tongued mean Cordy is life.

I am appalled.

They actually play it neatly, with her and Willow being kind of the rival queen bees of the school a la Betty and Veronica, with a slight edge of 'is Cordelia just pretending to care about the environment/social justice causes for appearance sake' except they keep with her later characterisation and yes, she does actually care.

I actually dropped Angel earlier than Buffy, because as soon as that book changed creative teams, it took a hard left turn. Fred being the avatar of the Wolf, Ram and Hart was a really interesting spin on things, and having Angel just unequivocally fail early in his quest was fascinating, but lol, nope.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Just it's own reboot thing? It just feels like watering down the interesting choices I mentioned so they can point to the original version and beg chuds who got mad that Xander being a creeper got called out to come back cuz look, the 'real' one's got a cool eyepatch.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Soonmot posted:

Yeah I joke about sending people to horny jail because I'm ace, but I don't really mean it. that's bad, i wonder if it's more fallout from the sesta/fosta bullshit

I assume it's either Apple or the credit card companies cracking down. Apple certainly have been trying to make sexual content a point of contention in this lawsuit with Epic Games, and there's already signs of other companies reacting to that suit, so this could be part of that. Or it could be like the Pornhub thing.

What amazes me is they somehow let a PR person craft this reply: “We want to make adult items available to those who wish to purchase them and can do so legally, while preventing those who do not wish to view or purchase these items from easily accessing them.”

Which is like... just directly contradicting what they're doing?

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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Welling looks like a Chuck Liddell cosplayer

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