Josef bugman posted:

That's fair, will try and work it out. I mean if we don't believe our interpretation of reality is true, we'd stop wouldn't we. I think it comes down to defining and realising that I am not other people. That difference or separation means that others are/can be worthy because they are not me. I'm me, and my choices are crappy ones.

But then morality becomes a matter of popular vote. Which I don't think can be true, or at least I hope is not true. It is good to abuse oneself if it is a choice you've made about something you believe you deserve. It is not fair to do that to others, because they don't deserve it.

I wouldn't say that violence is necessarily wrong. I don't see it as an ill aprioi and, unfortunately, it's impossible to prove that it is an ill. If everything is in flux all the time and all that sort of thing, then we can't prove that hurting yourself isn't okay. (also quick side note, but my spellcheck keeps trying to change "apriori into "DiCaprio" which is hilarious.

That's fair! People don't learn a lesson, and it's why I am generally against a carceral state, but at the same time I see the value in penance and atonement. And sometimes, yeah I do want to go to prison forever, but I still stick around for what needs doing, and for the harm it might cause others.

Josef bugman posted:

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If I've spent all this time being miserable, and I'm wrong about being a piece of poo poo, won't that make all of it a waste?

BattyKiara posted:

She wasn't actually antisemitic. After all, a son of the son of a son of a son back to Adam was literally incapable of sinning. As in even if this True Jew was a serial killer, he was still innocent, since God, for reasons only known to God, approved of his actions. Of course, her ideas abut who counted as a REAL Jew was extremely limited. Only those with direct, unbroken, MALE line back to Adam counts. Any time a REAL Jewish man dies without a MALE heir, a line is broken, and can never be replaced.

Her cult was batshit insane, no doubt about that, but not truly antisemitic? Her hierarchy was thus: Male Jews (by her standards of who counts as a real Jew), Males who follow Jesus, women who unconditionally submit themselves completely to the Masters God has set for them AND (very important!!!) gives birth to at least one son, men who are yet to follow Jesus, women who are believers but fail at being submissive enough but at least they gave birth to a son, women who are submissive but haven birthed a son yet, and "Failed women" who are eternally doomed.

Thirteen Orphans posted:

My favorite apocryphal story of Jesus is when He and His friend are playing on the roof and His friend accidentally falls off the roof and dies. Everybody starts to accuse Jesus of pushing His friend so Jesus raises him from the dead so that the friend could tell everyone it was an accident.

Yoshi Wins posted:

Wow. I had no idea. Any recommended reading if I want to learn more about this?

Fritz the Horse posted:

eh I'll give it a listen but I'm very skeptical of that type of internet irony-comedy podcasting being able to do a good job

I hope they brought in an indigenous guest to speak about it otherwise lmao

edit: are you sure this is the one you meant?

it's also paywalled

Nebakenezzer posted:

Fritz the Horse posted:

The core thread rule has always been "don't be a jerk."

quote:

...In that Empire, the Art of Cartography attained such Perfection that the map of a single Province occupied the entirety of a City, and the map of the Empire, the entirety of a Province. In time, those Unconscionable Maps no longer satisfied, and the Cartographers Guilds struck a Map of the Empire whose size was that of the Empire, and which coincided point for point with it. The following Generations, who were not so fond of the Study of Cartography as their Forebears had been, saw that that vast Map was Useless, and not without some Pitilessness was it, that they delivered it up to the Inclemencies of Sun and Winters. In the Deserts of the West, still today, there are Tattered Ruins of that Map, inhabited by Animals and Beggars; in all the Land there is no other Relic of the Disciplines of Geography.

My Spirit Otter posted:

This question is for the jews in the audience.

I was looking at buying something online and there was a banner across the top saying that check-outs were closed whilst they observe shabbat.

So, basically, ive never seen this before and i want to know, is this common(i very rarely shop online)? Are all automated systems shut down on shabbat?

I assumed that automation would be like the eruv(?), where they can get around accepting orders because of the fact that its an automated system until you have to physically read the order and pack it.

D34THROW posted:

gently caress did I just read?

Maybe I should stop into BYOB sometime, I thought it was FYAD slightly toned down

Mr. Wiggles posted:

Bishop Olmsted in Phoenix is a crazy reactionary who directly countermands papal orders anyway. Not surprising that he's looking for a way to be an extra rear end in a top hat just for the fun of it.

NotNut posted:

Out of these, which one do you consider the best in a literary sense, with no regard for the accuracy of translation?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Bible#Catholic_English_versions

Gaius Marius posted:

To be fair. Avoiding YA novels is a good thing to do

Tias posted:

What's Old Bay?

Broccoli tater tots own too.

docbeard posted:

Could use some prayers and general well-wishes right now. I'm being laid off at the end of the month and I'm both extremely angry and quite scared about the situation.

Nessus posted:

Oh of course I agree with you. The Lotus Sutra has an explicit alien visitation.

But in this case I mean more the phenomenon of, you line up twenty different sects or denominations. Nineteen out of twenty of them communicate a message that clearly has a lot of commonalities even if perhaps half of them add shading along the lines of "and by the way, we hold the true way; others are taking their chances, even if we respect their devotions..."

And then you have one guy be like "asdadfldsjksglasgh be WASHED in the ORANGE BLOOD of the TRUMPLAMB and NO OTHER COURSE will TAKE YOU TO HEAVEN save through ME, if you only give a SEED GIFT to REPUBLICAN JESUS and BUY MORE PRODUCTS!"

And people look at all of this and point at the last guy and say 'him! he's the real face of faith! that's what religion *actually* is!'

Keromaru5 posted:

Tillich was pretty much my introduction to apophatic theology. I think he's also what spurred me to read Augustine. Which I guess means he's why I'm Orthodox.

There's at least one Roman-era saint who converted by satirizing Christianity onstage. He went through a mock baptism, but then the baptism took, he started proclaiming the gospel, and they promptly martyred him.

I'd be interested in some kind of scholarly work that looks at Poe's Law and religion.