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"Help us win the senate and $2000* checks go out the door** immediately***" *$1400 **to individuals making less than the average teacher's salary in GA *** in 8 weeks at the earliest
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icantfindaname posted:Not sure if it should be surprising that what we're getting from Biden's presidency is that Biden himself is not as bad as expected, but Schumer and Pelosi are even worse schumer spent today pushing for 50k student debt relief and pelosi spent today agitating that we need a living wage as minimum wage and that $15 isn't enough but is a needed start I'm unclear what you're referring to Lester Shy posted:"Help us win the senate and $2000* checks go out the door** immediately***" unless you have some evidence to the contrary, it's still 75/150k as the threshold?
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Feb 4, 2021 23:20
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Herstory Begins Now posted:unless you have some evidence to the contrary, it's still 75/150k as the threshold? https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/02/03/biden-stimulus-checks-what-you-need-to-know/ quote:The latest version under discussion would send $1,400 payments to individuals earning under $50,000; and $2,800 to married couples earning under $100,000.
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Feb 4, 2021 23:32
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that's an amendment under discussion, not the bill
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Feb 4, 2021 23:40
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Herstory Begins Now posted:that's an amendment under discussion, not the bill And? None of this is final yet. Should it not be discussed until the bill is signed?
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Feb 4, 2021 23:46
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Herstory Begins Now posted:schumer spent today pushing for 50k student debt relief and pelosi spent today agitating that we need a living wage as minimum wage and that $15 isn't enough but is a needed start Hmmm, perhaps their careers and track records and actions to date since they came to power? Ah, well nevertheless
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Feb 4, 2021 23:48
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Lester Shy posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/02/03/biden-stimulus-checks-what-you-need-to-know/ So, just to set a baseline with the previous payments, here’s what I’ve got (apologies for the format, phone posting): 1200 Payments Start of phase-out: 75K Single/150K Joint Cap: 99K Single/198K Joint Children: 500 per child 600 Payments: Start of phase-out: 75K Single/150K Joint Cap: 87K Single/174K Joint Children: 600 per child 1400 proposed amendment from the article: Start of phase-out: 50K Single/75K Head of Household/100K Joint Cap: 75K Single/(no distinction for HoH)/150K Joint Children: 1400 per child I think I’ve got all that right?
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Feb 5, 2021 00:16
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if you're not going to send 1400 dollars to everyone who got 600 dollars, then the argument cannot be that 1400 to round out the 600 was what was meant when they said 2000 dollars.
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Feb 5, 2021 00:57
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Judakel posted:if you're not going to send 1400 dollars to everyone who got 600 dollars, then the argument cannot be that 1400 to round out the 600 was what was meant when they said 2000 dollars. That’s true! You should probably call your senators to let them know that’d be the wrong thing to do. Not sure it’ll help, but it’s a better use of our time than screaming into the void of something awful!
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Feb 5, 2021 01:18
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generic one posted:That’s true! You should probably call your senators to let them know that’d be the wrong thing to do. Not sure it’ll help, but it’s a better use of our time than screaming into the void of something awful! Let's not make posts like this, please. They're somehow even less helpful than screaming into the void of Something Awful.
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Feb 5, 2021 07:00
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Majorian posted:Let's not make posts like this, please. They're somehow even less helpful than screaming into the void of Something Awful. Are you discouraging people from contacting their Congressional representation? I truly do not understand this post. Contacting your Senators and House reps actually does have some incredibly tiny influence because Congressional staffers record how many constituents contact their office and their views on issues. It's certainly more productive than screaming into the void of an internet forum!
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Feb 5, 2021 07:16
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Fritz the Horse posted:Are you discouraging people from contacting their Congressional representation? I truly do not understand this post.
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Feb 5, 2021 07:19
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Yes, sure, but also "posting nihilism" isn't very interesting to Debate or Discuss. Please do contact your representative, post as well.
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Feb 5, 2021 07:24
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last time i bitched at a representative's office I got a call back from the rep wanting to talk like a week later, it took me completely by surprise. I'd only given them literally 10 or 20 dollars ever so I'm very definitely not on some big donor list, either
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Feb 5, 2021 07:30
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I'm represented in DC by Ted Cruz, John Cornyn and a guy who gets a 100% "Trump score" from 538, so posting here might literally be more effective than calling any of them.
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Feb 5, 2021 07:33
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One of my senators just made everyone pinky promise that the government won’t raise the minimum wage during the pandemic I don’t think she gives a minimal gently caress about getting non-rich people more money
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Feb 5, 2021 08:16
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DC Murderverse posted:One of my senators just made everyone pinky promise that the government won’t raise the minimum wage during the pandemic I don’t think she gives a minimal gently caress about getting non-rich people more money that was a proposed amendment to not make the minimum wage $15 during the pandemic, which bernie (in an act of procedural cleverness and literlism) supported because *no one is proposing to make the minimum wage $15 overnight and she withdrew the call for a vote on her amendment
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Feb 5, 2021 09:18
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Fritz the Horse posted:Are you discouraging people from contacting their Congressional representation? I truly do not understand this post. No he's saying that telling people not to debate and discuss politics on the debate and discussion forum is contrary to the purpose of having a debate and discussion forum.
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Feb 5, 2021 14:24
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Epinephrine posted:I will go so far as to say that contacting your representative about an issue is, in all relevant cases, more productive than posting with a pseudonymous account on a dead comedy forum that the representative has probably never head of and doesn't care about in the slightest. I don't know about any of you, but when I go on the Something Awful forums to discuss politics or anything else, I've already decided I'm not going to use my time productively.
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Feb 5, 2021 14:38
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Herstory Begins Now posted:that was a proposed amendment to not make the minimum wage $15 during the pandemic, which bernie (in an act of procedural cleverness and literlism) supported because *no one is proposing to make the minimum wage $15 overnight and she withdrew the call for a vote on her amendment It's really sad to see how far Bernie has fallen in defeat. If 2016 broke him, 2020 absolutely shattered him. There was a time where he'd proudly be the only one to dissent from a bullshit vote. Never have heroes.
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Feb 5, 2021 14:46
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Lib and let die posted:It's really sad to see how far Bernie has fallen in defeat. If 2016 broke him, 2020 absolutely shattered him. There was a time where he'd proudly be the only one to dissent from a bullshit vote. bernie before 2016 also supported a multi-year phase in for minimum wage increases, so it seems the problem here is you not knowing what bernie supports
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https://twitter.com/politico/status/1357670672307277825 it's not austerity it's not austerity don't call it austerity
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:https://twitter.com/politico/status/1357670672307277825 They’ve already pushed back on how seriously Summers is being taken. https://twitter.com/jstein_wapo/status/1357687718751444994?s=21
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Feb 5, 2021 16:45
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Majorian posted:Let's not make posts like this, please. They're somehow even less helpful than screaming into the void of Something Awful. I apologize if it didn’t seem like I was sincere about contacting legislators, maybe my post could have done without the bit about screaming into the void. To make good on my suggestion, I would encourage folks to use the contact list here. Each Senator has an online form linked on that page for submitting feedback, if you don’t feel comfortable calling. Also, to make this even less of an effort, below is the message I sent to both of my senators. Feel free to copy paste, modify as needed, or tell me it’s absolute shite. quote:Dear Senator __________ : generic one fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Feb 5, 2021 |
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Civilized Fishbot posted:I don't know about any of you, but when I go on the Something Awful forums to discuss politics or anything else, I've already decided I'm not going to use my time productively.
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Feb 5, 2021 18:28
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Fritz the Horse posted:Are you discouraging people from contacting their Congressional representation? I truly do not understand this post. Contacting your representative is a great idea; I'm just not a fan of, "If you believe in this, what are YOU doing about it/why are you wasting your time posting here?"-type posts. People can take action IRL and discuss politics/policies online. generic one posted:I apologize if it didn’t seem like I was sincere about contacting legislators, maybe my post could have done without the bit about screaming into the void. Now this is helpful. Thanks! 
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Feb 5, 2021 18:32
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Herstory Begins Now posted:that's an amendment under discussion, not the bill The fact that Democrats are signalling being open to this means that the fight against it is already lost. There's no reason for Republicans to not demand it now.
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Feb 5, 2021 20:37
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Lib and let die posted:It's really sad to see how far Bernie has fallen in defeat. If 2016 broke him, 2020 absolutely shattered him. There was a time where he'd proudly be the only one to dissent from a bullshit vote. this was bernie calling ernst's bluff to get her to shelve her frivolous, literally do-nothing amendment that was entirely intended to waste time before checks could be sent out
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If they really decide to further narrow the income eligibility thresholds for the $1400 checks, that is complete loving bullshit. Will send some emails and make some calls to my reps/senators to scream about this
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Mr.Citrus posted:Didn't AOC call for an amendment to 2k in December? Not an extra 2k? Same with Bernie? So much for that "see it doesn't need to be an extra $2k, even AOC says it  " talking point.Not that it would make it right if she were saying that ( to anyone for whom politics isn't a personality cult anyway), but hey she's not.
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I'm really glad to see AOC unequivocally support $2000. Hopefully this is a "the emperor has no clothes" moment for all the folks steadfastly defending the Dems continuously going back on their promise.
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https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1358244213918494722?s=20 Thank you.
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Feb 7, 2021 06:46
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lol everyone in uspol who defended 'they meant $1400' should be probed for a month
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the 50k means testing limit is far stupider than the 1400 = 2000 - 600 so of course dems introduced it
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Gulping Again posted:lol everyone in uspol who defended 'they meant $1400' should be probed for a month But then who would be left to post in USPol? On topic, this is the only natural end to the 'vote blue no matter who' mantra. Instead of signaling that we'd hold our votes for real platform concessions, The Left™ just fell in line and voted for the W. A. R. in the hopes that we could use some nebulous form of leverage that you have when you've given up the leverage of your vote to push him left and to do actual good while screaming at the left that they're, I don't know, doing a violence by expecting better things for Americans.
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Lib and let die posted:But then who would be left to post in USPol? Which leftist politician was saying it was a separate check for 2,000 from the start? The ones saying the promise all along was a separate 2k check only started to do so when the $2k upgrade turned into reality and they needed to appear further left and more progressive than everyone else
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Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr posted:Which leftist politician was saying it was a separate check for 2,000 from the start? The ones saying the promise all along was a separate 2k check only started to do so when the $2k upgrade turned into reality and they needed to appear further left and more progressive than everyone else Well, none, that's just the thing. Hence my usage of both 'The Left™' and 'the left'. It's subtle, but I'm sure you understand the difference?
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Lib and let die posted:Well, none, that's just the thing. Hence my usage of both 'The Left™' and 'the left'. It's subtle, but I'm sure you understand the difference? So the the left has 0 elected politicians and instead of going with the party that is offering 70% of what the left wants, the answer is to elect more right wing politicians as punishment? Also, how big do you reckon the left is in the US? Like the real 'left' that's apparently further left than aoc/bernie aka 'The Left™'.
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Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr posted:So the the left has 0 elected politicians and instead of going with the party that is offering 70% of what the left wants, the answer is to elect more right wing politicians as punishment? Yes. Let the democrats eat poo poo and lose power forever unless they shape up. quote:
The size of the left isn't the problem - it's the (lack of) wealth (read: political leverage via campaign funding) that is the let's biggest roadblock. You seem really hostile, mate. It's way too early to be as wound up as you seem to be getting. Breathe. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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