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Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
I remember reading somewhere that Space Boyfriend/Ex-Boyfriend/Husband/Ex-Husband was trans, at least to the person who designed him, but that didn't really make it into the game?

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really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

UPDATE 58: The Sum of All Fears




Fighting our fears, for real this time!

really queer Christmas fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jun 14, 2021

Qrr
Aug 14, 2015


Awww. That's adorable (if we ignore the denial).

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

UPDATE 59: The Abyss





We head into the deepest point of Headspace. The menacing atmosphere is good, right?

really queer Christmas fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jun 15, 2021

SloppyDoughnuts
Apr 9, 2010

I set fire to the rain watched it pour as I touched your face
So is The Red Knife unobtainable if you blow up Sweetheart's castle first?

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

UPDATE 60: Whale Whale, Look Who's Back!




We face off against everyone again.

really queer Christmas fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jun 16, 2021

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

SloppyDoughnuts posted:

So is The Red Knife unobtainable if you blow up Sweetheart's castle first?

Yes, her castle being demolished is one of the last things I actually did. If you demolish it too early, you miss out on getting Omori's ultimate weapon as well as some other stuff that you'll see in a couple days.

GimmickMan
Dec 27, 2011

The combat system looks fun so I'm glad there's a boss rush section where old fights get their due against players with all the new toys.

Also, it's been said a bunch of times but hearing a bunch of the boss themes again makes me want to reiterate: The music in this game owns.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

UPDATE 61:Broken Hearted




We rid the world of the wicked sweetheart clones, who were just about to do evil!

really queer Christmas fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jun 18, 2021

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Do you get anything for murdering these innocent sweethearts?

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
The satisfaction of a job well done.

Qrr
Aug 14, 2015


That's a heck of an optional superboss, nuking your whole team every turn.

At least Perfectheart survives (with a new name), murdering Roboheart and Mutantheart is just mean.

FeyerbrandX
Oct 9, 2012

The game seems pretty good at twisting the knife like undertale of the "you want to see everything? you want to beat the game? Prepare to endure bad feels"

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

UPDATE 62: The Black Space Around the Edges





We head back to Black Space.


really queer Christmas fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jun 18, 2021

Qrr
Aug 14, 2015


That date with the Aubreys is hilarious.

As for the rest of this... I dunno, it seems like there are a lot of really hard to find and very short scenes. They're kind pf like the Black Space 1 scenes but instead of being clearly visible doors on the main plot path they're off in random corners or 1% chances or need a lot of grinding in the junkyard.

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.
We've entered the "you went looking for this" stage of content.

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

Yeah, this is like the genocide run in Undertale. We are here not because we are passing by, this feels like we have experienced an ending of some sort, and now we are trying to see where else we can find new things.

The game's basically told us that the new things are in the part where things didn't turn out okay, and we said "that's alright, let's see how worse it can get!"

Well... this is how worse it can get. We signed up for it. It's our fault.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

UPDATE 63: Black Space 2





Just stepping out of Black Space for a bit to stretch our legs, get a bit of fresh air and reminders that not everything has to suck (so long as you live in denial).







After we first saw the scene with Mari and Basil at the picnic spot, these footprints appeared outside of the treehouse. We had no reason to go in, besides the minor stop to pick up a present from Abbi.





Now though, it's time to follow these footprints back into White Space and see where they lead.









Somewhat surprisingly, the footprints just disappear. Well, I guess not that surprisingly - Omori would never allow outside influences into White Space after all. But, well, something in here has changed and we don't need a knife to see it.











Welcome Again





That's right, the laptop in White Space now acts as a door to Black Space and vice versa. Welcome, truly this time, to Black Space in all its glory! Last time we were in Black Space, it was a lot more of a linear story place more equivalent to a haunted halloween ride where you get told story and get a bit of the ol' brain matter spooked. This time, Black Space has become a hub area that leads to other parts of Black Space. You want story? You want spooks? You want weird poo poo? You have to go willingly search for that poo poo this time. There's literally a massive area that's completely hidden away within another massive area that hides away several things from you. The Hikikomori route can be a little underwhelming for me, but Black Space 2 is ready and able to meet the hype naturally placed on its shoulders.





Remember when I said I would partially regret not going through all the doors during Black Space 1? Yeah, they still stay here forever... but they're just locked and can't be opened. So they clog up the area and make it harder to know which doors you can go in.





Let's start here, and make our way around. There are 5 doors in total, with one of the areas having already been explored last time.





We've already been to the Weathervane area, so we'll be leaving shortly... but if this is your second time visiting this place, something... changes...











Our friends change into... drawn creatures? Or at least, caricatures of themselves. It's the only thing that changes here when you come back a second time, and I believe the only thing that changes from a second visit anywhere in Black Space.





As before, there's only one way out of a Black Space 2 area - stabbing oneself. So get used to the sight of Omori gutting himself, if you haven't already :shepface:





This door is on the right side of the picnic blanket in the middle - right across from the weathervane door.





It's the second area of Black Space 2 - The Cloud Walkway. You can also get here by using the telescope in Sweetheart's castle. Doing so will place you right here, though when you stab to leave you go back to Sweetheart's castle instead of Black Space. Not sure which is worse.





These creatures are called... the faceless. They don't speak and just stand tall and look creepy. The Omori wiki says this place is "A home for the Faceless, eagerly awaiting the return of Omori." I'm not sure if whoever wrote that is implying that Omori is part of them or what. Maybe someone just trolled it and the rest of us don't want to look stupid and just nod and say of course that makes sense, because nothing I've seen backs that up.







Well hell, we're already in hell! Let's do it!









Oh... well that sucks. Let's go somewhere else.





........WHAT





Pluto does look like he's crying, but there's also the fact that he looks like the Moon Mascot from the second Futurama episode.









I am glad Omori is making sure to remind himself about stranger danger.







Leaving will make Loomy chase after us, but don't worry! Omori knows how to handle strangers!





VIOLENCE!





Alright, time to try this teleporting toilet out.







Not So Empty House





...WHAT.





........WHAT?!?





The Cloud Walkway is loving weird, man. You can't talk to Kel, who's swimming around in the pool. But interacting with the pool will let you collect $20 every time you click on it. Which would be useful if it wasn't a dream.





This is a door over on the right side, I... don't remember collecting any keys but hey, an unlocked door is fine with me!









Black Space 2 really loves its doors within doors thing. It's about 10 doors in before we finally can get to see som-





......ething...





The Cloud Walkway is really loving weird man.





It's not always easy to tell if you can just walk out of an area or if you need to stab yourself to get out. For the most part, unless you're in the main part of the area - there's an exit out of there.







...Right.









Sure... Omoli...







... There may be some people who think this game doesn't belong in the pantheon of earthbound likes and let me tell you, the fact the humor can be lisa-tier at times would put it up there alone. That's not even getting into the story.





This box is all alone in the far western part of the map, looked over by a faceless and... it's a pretty important box.





Three little lines... that manage to really hit home. Prior to this, there were a lot of hints the parents knew... but this just outright confirms it. The only question is did Omori ever tell them the whole truth or just let them think whatever? I'm... pretty sure I know the answer. :smith:





Finally, this door is the last thing to see here in this... really weird place. Let's head on in.







Room For 4





Yeah sure okay, we're on a tropical island as depicted by an 8 year old. That sun is quite dope though.











THAT'S MORE THAN A LITTLE HOT.





:rip: to crab. You truly were a friend.





Okay, that's it for the Cloud Walkway. Let's get the gently caress out of here.







Heading to the third area of Black Space 2 is the upper right most door. There's two more doors that can be used up here and both are to the left of Omori. The rest are locked Black Space 1 doors.




Come and See





We land in a forest... We land in a lot of forests don't we? This forest is called The Black Forest, or the Lost Forest, if you're feeling particularly fancy.







... :stare:









There's a Kel running around in the forest that literally runs too fast for the dialogue box to show what he says.







Not sure I really want to investigate this mirror... they're terrifying enough in the real world, much less in Black Space.









They play the hide and seek song from before, but it's super slowed down. It doesn't sound too creepy, which is a plus to me!











Uh yeah, sure?







The red hands just flee from us, they did that in the red space too.







Afraid of a blow dryer? It's not that scary.









As you would expect, Omori can only walk instead of run after eating that entire steak in one bite. Can't run on a full stomach!







I love... squares for dinner! It's my favorite dish! Right behind circles!







Hi Kel! Bye Kel! This appears for only one frame, by the way.





... Black Space 2 is really loving weird sometimes. I'm sure everyone was expecting more Lisa the original and not Lisa the painful.





The radio plays a slightly distorted version of the Last Resort theme... and then begins to play a weird sound...











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Oh no, not this music...





Oh good, the walls are closing in. I always hated this dream.







... Were you getting comfortable looking around here? This thing doesn't talk it just... stares. Going back leads us into the middle of the forest.





Heh! That sign can't stop me! I can't read!













I don't know why but this always creeps me out, even though it's literally just "There's something scary behind this door."











I really don't want to win anything here.





Definitely didn't want to win this either.





When we left the area without finding the mirror, it resets it back to it's old spot. I hope it's not too mad at us...











Hey remember Fade? The song that plays in almost every creepy spot?




FADE


Yeah that one, go ahead and play it at 1/4 speed because that's what the game is doing right now and it's the soundtrack that I'm pretty sure is in the waiting room of Hell. I hate it!















...Let's get out of here.





So this is going to be a little bit confusing, but bear with me a bit. Because we just went into the Black Forest on the right side, and now on the left side...









Calm





... Is also a forest, that may be black. Welcome to Black Forest... part 2. Or Lost Forest 2, if you're feeling super fancy. We're not out of the woods, just yet.





You can start swimming and swim through the terrain and walls. It's not a glitch, it's part of the game.











...Omori... you haven't... been doing psychopath poo poo... right...?





We found another bowl of squares! Two more and we get a bowl of cubes :rimshot:











This area is mostly empty, none of the... eyeless figures can be talked to.







Look familiar? These forests were what I was teasing in the last update from Sweetheart's castle. Some parts of Black Space feel like they are nightmare zones, and others feel like they were once part of Headspace and got corrupted. The Black Forest definitely feels like the latter.









Hmm... Okay maybe it is a nightmare zone.











This is really cool though, being able to see the final key hole spot in Black Space proper is quite good. It makes sense too, the final key was the closest to piercing the veil Omori keeps over Headspace.







:smith:











This area... is a minecart course? There's a bunch of faceless in the middle that can't be reached with the minecart going around and around. There are little creatures all around that are constantly being spawned and run over by the mine cart. These creatures are actually called "Little Ones"! The game files call them "Little Basils"! I wonder why they're being run over and over again while they shriek in terror!









I really wasn't looking forward to this area. Welcome to the Black Playground! It's... not pleasant here!







Pinata guy is having fun, at least. Something interesting is that the Faraway park theme is playing, even if it is slowed down. You wouldn't hear that theme in this route of the game so you wouldn't even know that it's a messed up version of itself.







Ah, this unpleasant looking sliced open head of Omori looks perfect for us to interact with!





Thanks, I hate it!!!!!!!!!!!





This is the only other head that can be interacted with in the park.







And it's just Omori's friends running away from him for all eternity. Lovely :smith:





That's it for the Black Forest... and well, all forests. We've only got one more major area to explore left, but it's got a pretty significant side area that... may or may not have been saved for last.





The final door is located on the top - in between the two Forest doors. This place... is going to be quite familiar.





The final major zone of Black Space - The Docks. We've been here before, on our first trip to Black Space. We jumped off from a high point and landed in the space below. That was one of the two ways to visit Black Space 2 in the Sunny route. The other was by riding the boat that decapitates Basil a couple times - which leads to the Weathervane area. The Docks... are a lot closer to the Black Space experience we... love.











The cooking pot leads to this kitchen, because of course it does. Let's... hope that's actually Hero standing in front of the stove and not some creature inhabiting Hero.





I was just about to cook something up but I'm missing some important ingredients. Why don't you find some and bring it back to me?





The blow dryer made me scoff... but this actually does creep me out. Maybe it's because I've got a fear of deep water compared to forests which do nothing for me. Either way, we're heading back out there to find some ingredients so nightmare hero who's a dream version of the real hero Omori hasn't seen in four years can cook us some imaginary food.





Something I find quite interesting was the Fish Lady appearing here and taunting Sunny. Especially considering how difficult it is to reach Black Space 2 on the Sunny route. She doesn't show up on this route since Omori never meets her, as far as we know anyway.











While I'm not sure what Omori seeing himself in the bath is supposed to represent... I do know what that sliding glass door means...















Theres a very loud fog horn that plays every 10 seconds or so while in this area.











After a full minute of swimming north, we finally reach land... with a dark well. Welp! Time to swim back and not go in there!













Another full minute of climbing down before we finally reach the bottom of the well... which is just two beds in a room. Or, well, a dungeon more like.





The right bed can't be interacted with, but the left reveals a ladder taking us even further down. What... could go wrong?























:smith:





Just like the last time we were at the docks, there's a second area attached if Omori dives in. There's actually no door on the bottom this time, since that's a Sunny route exclusive.





There is this door, though.









This door regrows the spider web every time you cut it down. But after nine slices... it finally stays cut.





Hmm... this is less than ideal.





This little house is the last part of the Docks left to explore. There's a secret entrance to the docks from Big Molio's TV. Remember that super weird room with Ye Old Sprout in the middle? That leads here, funnily enough.




Stardust Diving





Well that is a jarring rear end change. Excuse me while I take care of this whiplash I just suddenly got.







Man I wonder who took this kid's pillow, it could be anyone...







Ah, there it is. Let's just go and gr-







Uh... I guess not.





Thats... a bit creepy. Is this the beta version of the Junkyard? Do dreams have beta versions?







-ab it and bring it back to the Veggie Kid.





Too bad we can't tag her in right now.







I didn't like this place before, but sprout moles that just walk around saying Omori is definitely the line I'm going to draw in Black Space.





To the left of the clearly means nothing tree with a noose is a key that cannot ever be reached... and there's a gate just to the south of us that can never be unlocked.









Heading back to the field of Little Ones are the ingredients we need for Hero! Let's bring it back to him so he can make some ■ ■ ■!











It's a real item as well, but they can't be used for anything so they just stay there in your inventory forever... and yes you can take them back with you into Headspace.

And speaking of Headspace, that's it for Black Space 2! There's nothing else left to see! Nope! We're done! Time to continue! Bye bye!! See ya next time!!!
















































FADE





Welcome... to the Red Maze. The final area of Black Space 2. This definitely takes inspiration from Yume Nikki more than any other part of Black Space.





Because this is definitely a red maze in the same vein as Hell is from that game. There are two main things we """want""" to see in here, which can be hard to do because of the maze like structure of this area. Even if you know where you want to go, you're still likely to wander around for a bit. It's also a bit hard on the eyes to stare at for a bit, I've found.





Omori cannot run in here, so he's slowly plodding around in this hellish environment.





After a while, you are guaranteed to see one of these toasts floating around. It's highly advised to avoid them until you've seen everything in here first. Just trust me on this. They move pretty slowly so it's not hard to outmaneuver them.





Here's the first of the two ladders in the Red Maze. If you're playing along, this is where you get a sandwich or something because you're going to be here a while.




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See this room? We're going to be going down this ladder for a looooooong time.





On the 20th floor, you can find Daddy Longlegs... it's been quite a while since we've seen him.





And he just tells us to go back, probably good advice to be honest.





BACK ON THE GRIND. FLOOR 21!





On floor 40... is the toy box. You can't interact with it, but that's the toy box. Or you can be like me and miss it, go back up the ladder only to discover you can't go back up floors... you go back to the beginning and have to trek down again :suicide:





Finally, on floor 42, we finally reach the bottom... which is just a bunch of black empty space.





Well this sucks, you can't even walk off the screen or anything, you're just stu-





uUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKK!





"FUN" Fact! There used to be a bug that if you stabbed yourself in that room, that face would be stuck on the screen for the rest of your save file, unless you came back here and stabbed yourself in that room again.





The only other thing to see in here, besides the toast, is a ladder leading to the eye room we saw when we stared into the doll at the Last Resort. That doll does not lead you here, the devs had some decency, but it is in here if you want to see it again. But since we've already seen it, let's go ahead and mess with this toast before we leave.





Touching any of the toast floating around in here causes the lights to go out, and for all of the toasts to turn into... a girlish figure that looks like she's hanging.





Being anywhere near her causes Omori's health to slowly drain at about four per second.





The drain goes a lot quicker if other girls show up. They will all try to hone in on Omori's location so it shouldn't be long before they all arrive if you stand still.





After enough damage is done... the girls... transform... as well, the area gets even darker. It becomes really hard to maneuver if you're trying to find anything in here. Meaning the easiest way out of here... is stabbing yourself.





Here's the final form of the hellmaris that appear here. It may not seem all that creepy as a still image, but these things feel really inhuman while moving.







There's also this form when they attack. They also have a shriek they make while attacking. It's great! I hate it! Get me the hell out of here!













The hellmaris cannot kill Omori, they just leave him at one HP. I guess even these creatures are too strong for Omori to shield the psychological trauma from Sunny's mind.






GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
Jesus loving Christ.

Trying to imagine what this must be like if you went this route first and saw that poo poo.

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

really queer Christmas posted:

UPDATE 63: Black Space 2

Thanks, I hate it!!!!!!!!!!!


This is not an empty-quote, just an accurate summation of my feelings at this time.

FeyerbrandX
Oct 9, 2012

Let's just do everything in our power to get to a new page.

Has there been any reason given yet why this is route is named hikkomori?

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

FeyerbrandX posted:

Let's just do everything in our power to get to a new page.

Has there been any reason given yet why this is route is named hikkomori?

Hikkikomori is a term from Japan describing the kind of social-anxiety ridded person who won't even leave their home and interact with others. They generally have some means of making money or being given money to live a shut-in life and will go so far as to even have their food delivered direct to them instead of going grocery shopping. It's been an Otaku stereotype for a while, and it's often used in japanese visual novels as a protagonist stereotype before he gets whisked away into whatever fantastical world he gets to be the protagonist of, just like he dreamed.

Omori's about halfway there, with this being a traumatized kid shutting himself away from the world for literal years. Which matches up funnily enough, since it's only half the word.

One thing that I don't know if it has come up yet: Is Omori homeschooled? Have we seen proof of that at all? It seems weird that the Sunny route is hinging so much on Omori moving during summer vacation, but have we seen any actual school-related things bleeding into Dreamspace that would indicate whether Sunny even goes to a school?

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011
thabks...

DimiPZC
Jul 29, 2020

The very bestest!
Don't Worry, everything will be Omori. :)

:suicide:

FeyerbrandX
Oct 9, 2012

thecluckmeme posted:

Hikkikomori is a term from Japan describing the kind of social-anxiety ridded person who won't even leave their home and interact with others. They generally have some means of making money or being given money to live a shut-in life and will go so far as to even have their food delivered direct to them instead of going grocery shopping. It's been an Otaku stereotype for a while, and it's often used in japanese visual novels as a protagonist stereotype before he gets whisked away into whatever fantastical world he gets to be the protagonist of, just like he dreamed.

Omori's about halfway there, with this being a traumatized kid shutting himself away from the world for literal years. Which matches up funnily enough, since it's only half the word.

One thing that I don't know if it has come up yet: Is Omori homeschooled? Have we seen proof of that at all? It seems weird that the Sunny route is hinging so much on Omori moving during summer vacation, but have we seen any actual school-related things bleeding into Dreamspace that would indicate whether Sunny even goes to a school?

Thanks, I was wondering if Hikkik was some hell character I overlooked in the last few sessions or if it'd be the final boss or something.

I'm just wondering if this is going to end like the first version of Evangelion and everyone just clapping

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


thecluckmeme posted:

One thing that I don't know if it has come up yet: Is Omori homeschooled? Have we seen proof of that at all? It seems weird that the Sunny route is hinging so much on Omori moving during summer vacation, but have we seen any actual school-related things bleeding into Dreamspace that would indicate whether Sunny even goes to a school?

I think there's an implication that Sunny kept going to school for a while after everything happened but shut down more and more, his parent's marriage breaking down as well, until he's left with his mom who can't seem to get him to leave the house, or possibly even his room, for months.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

UPDATE 64: Leave Again







WHITE SPACE





And that's it for Black Space, Black Space 2... and well, Headspace as a whole. We're done with Omori's dreams and exploring his... very damaged psyche. As always, there's only one way out of White Space and back to the real world.











I'm never going to get over Something always being there when Omori wakes up.





There's very little to do, even on the final night in the real world. Leaving the comfort of the dream world just reminds us how lonely this world really is.





Ahh, another reminder of how much I hate this. I'd really like to see Sunny in this mirror again :smith:





Hmm... is there a light on in that room now? There's nothing else to investigate in the rest of the house so let's check it out.







Oh... I could have sworn there was something here, but I guess not.





The red glow has come up quite often. Even in the flashbacks Sunny had, there was a red glow surrounding the tree. I don't know if that was because the sun setting had created that glow or it's just Omori feeling like he deserves to go to hell.





Oh... that doesn't look pleasant.















There isn't even the option to get a "There is nothing here" box anymore. There really is just nothing here now. If we had opened the door for Mari, a HellMari appears and chases Omori for a bit up the stairs before disappearing. Really, be grateful I didn't open the door.





...Not that this is much better.





And... here it is. Once we've gone into the piano nothing at all room, we can head back to bed and decide if we want to visit White Space/Headspace one last time or wake up tomorrow morning. We've truly done everything there is to do in Headspace so... it's time for one last sleep.



















This ending is going to be a bit familiar... It's the Leave ending all over again. The Leave ending is the neutral ending you can get from both routes. It's kinda a boring ending in itself, but it is interesting that both routes can wind up here despite the very different circumstances you arrive here in.





Mom doing Omocat a big favor and not making her draw a sprite for her, how considerate of her.





It's been a while since I talked about the WTF value, mostly because there isn't as much that value affects as was both hoped/thought. However, a max WTF value of 13 turns the movers into shadow creatures like the stranger. I'd honestly prefer it if this was just how Omori saw people and Sunny at least still saw them as people. Thankfully, this LP is the canon playthrough so it's now official that Omori sees all people this way :colbert:



















HIGH PITCH RINGING SOUND



















And just like the last time we saw this ending... the credits play over the sound of sirens in the background. Basil never got to see Sunny again, and would have been just as likely to kill himself since his Grandma becoming critical was the reason he had a breakdown. The leave ending with Sunny at least had a ray of sunshine in that Sunny got to at least try again with a new life. Maybe with that and some therapy the kid turns out alright. But Omori... it's going to take a whole lot more to fix what's wrong with him.


Just like before, there are more than one endings for Omori to get. But there's just one more to see this time. Don't worry, everything will be okay.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

For those curious, here are two videos that show how the night goes if you open the door for Mari.

Lord_Magmar posted:

I think there's an implication that Sunny kept going to school for a while after everything happened but shut down more and more, his parent's marriage breaking down as well, until he's left with his mom who can't seem to get him to leave the house, or possibly even his room, for months.

Yes, Sunny does not immediately stop going to school. But it does happen after a little bit. It's pretty heavily implied he literally hasn't left his house in years.

MachuPikacchu
Oct 15, 2012

Sacre vert! Maman!

After the last update (which I saw yesterday at midnight), those two links are going to remain un-clicked, thank you.

I kind of like that the Hikikomori route doesn't have a climactic final showdown like the genocide route in Undertale. It drives home the fact that going this far to see all the content that this game has to offer should not be seen as a triumph.

CHiRAL
Mar 29, 2010

Anus.
I haven't seen the other hikki ending.. I'm scared :ohdear:

theGrooseofLegend
Dec 29, 2013
Omoli seems to be Sunny's underlying fear of her mother abandoning him like his father did and being left homeless as a result :smith:

I know psych horror is a well establish genre, but what other stuff specifically does "horror that becomes depressing in context?" so far Omori, Lisa and Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass are the three I've seen that scratches this itch for me.

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

theGrooseofLegend posted:

Omoli seems to be Sunny's underlying fear of her mother abandoning him like his father did and being left homeless as a result :smith:

I know psych horror is a well establish genre, but what other stuff specifically does "horror that becomes depressing in context?" so far Omori, Lisa and Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass are the three I've seen that scratches this itch for me.

Obvious answer, Undertale. Otherwise I've only see parts of Deltarune Part 1, but it captures the initial hook of "Oh, this will probably gently caress me up"

Then there's also Yume Nikki, which is a plotless exploration of a dreamspace. You can infer some information, but there's no plot other than "this kid's depressed and retreated into this WEIRD dream world"

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

UPDATE 65: You'll Forgive Yourself, Won't You?





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSdbQAii5Rc


So ends Omori. Despite whatever controversy's existed around the kickstarter, the game we got was a fantastic one - especially for a first time creation. It's very rare that a developer can turn their first game, and passion project, into a game that can easily be considered a GOTY contender. This game is truly special, and getting to showcase it to so many people who may have never even have known it came out has made some tough days a bit easier to handle. From the bottom of my heart, thank you for following along. Everything will be okay.


Qrr
Aug 14, 2015


Thanks for playing this! I really enjoyed this game, and hadn't seen the Hikikomori route before. Seeing it now, I do think that the other route is more interesting, but it's still cool that this is an option.

CHiRAL
Mar 29, 2010

Anus.
I have been very curious about this game but certain aspects of it hit very close to home for me. The screenshot format made it a lot easier for me to experience. After seeing the whole thing I am very happy I didn't miss out on this wonderfully presented story.
Thanks for making this thread!

CHiRAL fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jun 19, 2021

Nikumatic
Feb 13, 2012

a fantastic machine made of meat
Thanks so much, rqc. I feel like this is a game that doesn't affect me quite so much right now but would have slugged me hard if I played it when I was younger and you did a great job highlighting all the things that make it special.

Arcanuse
Mar 15, 2019

Omori is a good game, and I'm happy more people got to see it.
What else is there for me to add, really?

The end, No-mori :downsrim:

GimmickMan
Dec 27, 2011

Thanks for sharing Omori with us so thoroughly. Just like I thought from the previews, there are parts of this game that I would adore to play for myself and parts of it that I would prefer to steer clear of. Maybe one day my interest in the former will overcome the apprehension for the latter, but until then I'm glad to have experienced so much of it this way.

JustPassingBy
Aug 6, 2014

theGrooseofLegend posted:

I know psych horror is a well establish genre, but what other stuff specifically does "horror that becomes depressing in context?" so far Omori, Lisa and Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass are the three I've seen that scratches this itch for me.

You might want to try End Roll. The initial premise is kind of similar to Omori: kid lives in a 'perfect' dream world that slowly gets corrupted by his mental issues, often but not always represented by RPG battles. The horror is more closely interwoven with be nice stuff than in Omori, though. Omori leaves most of the explicit horror stuff for late game, while End Roll has it as kind of a constant looming presence that sometimes crashes full-force into the foreground and then leaves just as suddenly. It's also even more depressing than Omori, somehow. But at least it's free so you can spend that money on therapy!

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Marluxia
May 8, 2008


JustPassingBy posted:

You might want to try End Roll. The initial premise is kind of similar to Omori: kid lives in a 'perfect' dream world that slowly gets corrupted by his mental issues, often but not always represented by RPG battles. The horror is more closely interwoven with be nice stuff than in Omori, though. Omori leaves most of the explicit horror stuff for late game, while End Roll has it as kind of a constant looming presence that sometimes crashes full-force into the foreground and then leaves just as suddenly. It's also even more depressing than Omori, somehow. But at least it's free so you can spend that money on therapy!

Seconding the suggestion on End Roll

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