Small Gay Planet posted:

Why are americans so disturbed by oval office, and also mentions of foreskins. Does this discomfort show a babycute inner soul

It is curious, and more interesting than the implications of retard

Dalael posted:

I'm gonna be honest, as a foreskin-disabled, I appreciate the extra second it saves me washing my junk

Derek Fcking Carr posted:

I have been probated once for saying the R word and I will not stop saying it online

Thoguh posted:

Not saying retard is fine and the word is pretty much gone from the forums already. Language evolves and that word has evolved to be a taboo word.

Aggressively insulting someone for being a dumbass is a core part of posting in CSPAM though so if your position is just that everyone should always be nice and polite then SA probably isn't the place for you and CSPAM definitely isn't. Conflict doesn't go away just because you refuse to acknowledge it.

Hodgepodge posted:

lol you are not brave revolutionaries for calling people retarded you hosed up goons

Hodgepodge posted:

lol if you gave a crap about whether people "co-opt language used to describe systems of oppression" this would be about something to you other than how if you could just use the forbidden word you could own your posting enemies with it

you're co-opting an argument against liberals that you don't even understand because you somehow have even weaker and emptier beliefs than they do

ikanreed posted:

So the real question I have is whether it's still a term with clinical usages. Certainly doctors still use it as an adjective to describe growth that's not as fast as typical, but do mental health professionals use to describe undiagnosed early age milestone misses?

Probably not, right?

Bideo James posted:

TheSlutPit posted:

instead of making hundreds of posts debating whether the word was bad or not they decided they didnt care and used their posting energy to concoct an epic pump and dump scheme around a failing game retailer.

fr0id posted:

this thread is 23 pages and mostly poo poo posts so apologies, I didn’t read all of it.

I’m mostly a lurker on here, but enjoy reading CSPAM. Most of the posts I’ve seen on here have been people mocking the idea of not using the r word. It reminds me of a thread about 14 years ago in GBS where someone asked about stopping use of the f-slur against gay people (and yes, I don’t feel comfortable using the words myself). A bunch of people dogpiled the OP, called them the f-slur, and then Lowtax himself weighed in to say that the f slur was fine to use. He may have then used it against the OP, I don’t remember. Regardless, a great mind had weighed in.

My mother spent her career working in special education. In my house, the r word was treated the same as the worse kind of curse word. I work in mental health, and the field consciously chose to abandon the r word over a decade ago due to its connotations.

Yes, you can argue that this is just a race against time and that whatever new terms we use will eventually become slurs. That is true. It’s also true that slurs from the past have lost their meaning in the present. It’s also true that policing words does not affect material conditions. A lot of people have seized on comparisons to other words like the n-word to do some kind of oppression olympics on “how dare you compare these words!” Frankly, I see most of these arguments as D&Desque lawyering, or the equivalent of “I’m not touching you!” while you hold your hand a half inch from someone’s face.

Is it bourgeois to argue about word usage? I don’t know, maybe? I also know in various working class jobs I’ve had that people were able to understand reasons for not using certain words. I don’t think a lot of people with intellectual disabilities are posting on CSPAM. Maybe some folks on here have family or friends with intellectual disabilities. Personally, I can say that the people I’ve know and worked with who have intellectual disabilities would be very bothered by me using the r-word to insult people.

CSPAM to me is meant to be the forum for people so radically left that they hate posting in D&D. what kind of radical leftist is going to go that far but then vehemently argue against changing wording for the benefit of others? If someone tells your mispronouncing a word from another language, do you not correct it? Or do you stamp your feet and declare that it’s pronounced your way in your country and culture and that it’s foolish and stupid to change? What is the personal cost to you to not use a word? Even if you think it’s a meaningless gesture overall, do you refuse to recognize the people whom it hurts who would rather you not use it? Marx did not write about seizing the slurs of production. Mao did not do a long n-word march. I don’t get it. I don’t think it’s a slippery slope of thought censorship. maybe it opens up conversation to other changes in language.

One other thought. How do you feel about people calling you a liberal? Because as far as American discourse goes, that’s what everyone here is. a liberal. does it bother you? do you want another term? Words matter. it’s not that hard to use other terms. yes, language evolves, but standing still and declaring that you’re going to never evolve in protest is childish.

that’s my two cents.

ikanreed posted:

It's weird that this thread is exactly the "leftist irony posters doing slurs to own the libs" stereotype that people elsewhere get angry at

Admiral Ray posted:

i only realized yesterday that it's an anagram for trader.

gay_crimes posted:

the class war against capital is being fought by self-proclaimed retards. it’s a powerful word and these so called retards have done more to induce a rise in class consciousness than anyone else in the USA

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

i did and someone reported me in here lmao