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seconding the onlyfans, get that homegroan.
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Congratulations to Sky13lazer on becoming part of internet history.
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Jeff sell nicely printed and bound copies of the mod forum archive, I'd buy that
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I have no problem whatsoever contributing to a Patreon. The $10 to join I gave up literally 15 years ago has paid for itself countless fold at this point.
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Patreon sounds like a decent idea. Patreon takes, what, 5%? In december, 8% of gross got wiped out from fees. SA probably gets loving fleeced on CC transactions, because each individual transaction is so small, and I doubt the forum has a particularly advantageous fee structure. Might be worth exploring something like "you can redtext one person per month at Tier Krust and two people per month at Tier Fiestacat" simply to disperse the fees if Patreon's are lower.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I would like to congratulate Skyl3lazer for spending the most the first month - he will get to permaban lowtax! He spent enough to pay for an entire month of hosting costs, super cool. Sorry Lowtax, bad Infest coming.
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Jose Oquendo posted:How difficult would it be to setup some sort of SA subscription for recurring revenue instead of going through Patreon since they'd take a cut. Offer something like something awful.com email addresses and other cheap nerd poo poo in exchange for a sub. This. I want erulisse@somethingawful.com Jeoffrey pls pls pls pls
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low key sex master posted:I'm an Old School Poster (tm), but I gotta say I love how refreshing your transparency is Jeffrey. The drama with [INSERT OLD OWNER'S NAME HERE] is what brought me back to the site, but this sort of up-front stuff is what's keeping me coming back after like nearly a decade in the wilderness very much 
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Love this transparency, J.
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This would not be the stupidest thing I pay monthly for
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Lmao at how much lowtax lied about barely covering hosting costs and this place almost unable to stay afloat. For the absolute transparency and good faith so far, I'd be willing to kick into a monthly patreon, something I'd NEVER have even considered before with Lowtax.
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Jose Oquendo posted:How difficult would it be to setup some sort of SA subscription for recurring revenue instead of going through Patreon since they'd take a cut. Offer something like something awful.com email addresses and other cheap nerd poo poo in exchange for a sub.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Income: Not a single funny number in the bunch 
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Why did fees go from 6% in Oct to 8% in Nov? Renegotiated contract? I'm just lolling at the amount of profit this place makes. Obviously hiring someone will eat all of that up but still 4-6k a month to just sit there and do nothing while dnd sad brains redtext each other is just easy money.
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Any plans to work alongside the developer of the AwfulApp to make it officially endorsed by SA (of it hasn't been already)?
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bloody ghost titty posted:seconding the onlyfans, get that homegroan. if we banded together we could absolutely take over OF, I'm just saying. Not goonzurg or anything, just, yeah.
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Who What Now posted:Any plans to work alongside the developer of the AwfulApp to make it officially endorsed by SA (of it hasn't been already)? The app is awesome and how I browse the forums almost exclusively. This is a good idea.
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More info from a single post than from 20 years of Lowtax lol
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Thanks for the update and the transparency. It's good to have some confidence in the future of this website while the rest of the internet has a meltdown.
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Thanks for the post. I think a Patreon is a good idea
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I also think a Patreon is a good idea, and I'm on these forums enough to justify donating a few bucks each month. gently caress Lowtax for lying so loving much, Jesus.
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I'd happily chip in a few bucks a month for a Patreon thing should you need any more convincing, and I appreciate the insight in how the business side of things is doing  The Awful app is also a fantastic piece of software and I agree it should be a part of SA in some official capacity if possible.
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Who What Now posted:Any plans to work alongside the developer of the AwfulApp to make it officially endorsed by SA (of it hasn't been already)? seconding this, the app is incredible and is almost single-handedly responsible for me becoming a regular user of the forums again
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Hosting fees are actually way lower than i'd imagined. That being said, I'd definitely support the forums monthly somewhere, be it Patreon or something internal.
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I'm on board for the Patreon, but I do like the idea of having a @somethingawful.com email address too.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I've been looking into this and it's hard. I certainly don't like the idea of paying patreon a cut though, clearly, the credit card companies take their cut as well. Subscription code would have to function differently from existing code, because I don't want to store any payment information on our side, and we'd need a way to set and expire your subscription status without you personally making web requests to do it. It's something I want but, imo, it will be a long time before the gains actually outweigh the development and maintenance cost. Unlike the forums I am not attached to our current store software and am going to be evaluating alternatives. If you want to integrate fancy features into a recurring payment, fine, but for me, it's just a way to keep the lights on. I don't need anything more in return than this place's continued existence and ideally funding improvements that benefit everyone. I already have a Patreon, so that's the least friction for me personally. Please do not start hosting peoples' email.
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Jeff we absolutely don’t deserve an admin as good as you lol BUT thank you so much for being transparent and open with us about how this all works. You’re a good dude, dude
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:adding a recurring income stream seems reasonable for figuring out the development plan, but is there an idea of how much per month we'd all want to fund operations in perpetuity with a cushion for risks? obviously the development would flow off of the poster's needs and what the internet in year+x is like, but is there a plan for $100k/month to discourage donations, etc?
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can't remember when geoffpos bought the forums but i'm guessing the oct/nov income includes a load of saved-up avatar purchases that people didn't want to commit to under the rule of the previous owner so watching number go down shouldn't really be a concern. i would like to know how much of the forums profit has been reinvested in Gamestop stocks though; anything less than 100% is criminally negligent
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ill pay another $10 for the video of ozma fingering herself. i lost the link
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I've been looking into this and it's hard. I certainly don't like the idea of paying patreon a cut though, clearly, the credit card companies take their cut as well. Subscription code would have to function differently from existing code, because I don't want to store any payment information on our side, and we'd need a way to set and expire your subscription status without you personally making web requests to do it. It's something I want but, imo, it will be a long time before the gains actually outweigh the development and maintenance cost. Unlike the forums I am not attached to our current store software and am going to be evaluating alternatives. Could open it up to cryptocurrencies as well, especially if people wanted anonymous donations through Monero or such.
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Make a Patreon tier where for one day per year you have full mod powers, letting you rampage through the forums taking revenge on your posting enemies. Also thx for keeping me from being internet homeless, Jeff.
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Here's a question Jeffrey, and you may not know the answer yet. I assume that SA LLC is its own entity and has its own bank account, and I imagine you're going to let it build up some cash buffer, but... Do you ever plan to pay yourself income from SA LLC? I think it would be reasonable if you did, I mean you fronted the money to buy it after all and you are doing work to run the place. I appreciate the transparency and hope it continues and I think if you are going to pay a dev for their work (good idea) you would have every reason to pay yourself too. A big problem with the previous ownership was, as others have said, bursting in here twice a year to say the forums are dying we need money, which I think most of us now know was never really true. His lying about this and lack of transparency is a big part of why people begrudged him of buying fancy cookies and stuff. But with the transparency you're giving, and running it like a non-profit, and putting the needs of SA first, I don't think it's inherently wrong to receive some income from the business you bought.
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I'd be fine kicking $5-10 a month towards a patreon.
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Jeffrey thank you for keeping your word here. Being transparent means a lot.Gwyneth Palpate posted:Patreon sounds like a decent idea. That's a good idea.
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really queer Christmas posted:Why did fees go from 6% in Oct to 8% in Nov? Renegotiated contract? Probably has to do with the number of transactions vs the size of the average transaction. There's probably some combination of flat fee and percentile per transaction that the CC companies take. Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I still don't have an update on the front page. There has been so much to do for the forums themselves that it's hard to even start thinking about the frontpage. I managed to get lowtax's name off of it, eventually. As long as Lowtax's articles are down I really don't mind waiting for new content.
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I would totally subscribe and pay like, 20 bucks a month to get two gift certs to change someone else’s avatar emailed to me because the forums store is clunky enough that it’s definitely stopped me from doing some redtexts because  Storing payment info/a PayPal button so I don’t have to hunt down my wallet to make store purchases would rule, but I’m not sure how much that would add to overhead.
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