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Dr. Quarex posted:HELL YES A THREAD JUST FOR US I'm going to hazard a guess that he was definitely moving but had to finish out the company's contract. Indy is booked out until at least 2026 I want to say?
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WerrWaaa posted:I saw this post had new replies and I thought GC22 discourse had already started and honestly I'm disappointed that wasn't it. There will be a Shots Wednesday in 2022 and hopefully this time there won't be a cover.
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I hope GC22 is back up to "normal" and everyone just has their gosh dang shots. I got my booster! I'll get another if they let me! GIVE ME ALL THE BOOSTERS gently caress
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Carteret posted:I hope GC22 is back up to "normal" and everyone just has their gosh dang shots. I got my booster! I'll get another if they let me! GIVE ME ALL THE BOOSTERS gently caress the pfizer booster kicked my rear end but i'd do it again for a normal gencon where i can walk around sipping beer from a giant hydroflask all day
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Say what you will about GC21 but I brought a buddy to it as his first ever Gencon and he's so hyped for GC22. How hyped? His brother is getting married next year and my friend will be a groomsman but he's asked his brother to please keep GC dates in mind while selecting the wedding date.
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Planning for GC22? I thought this was just Quarex and my thread for talking about gen con history now. 22 should be interesting. Hopefully more back to normal. I'll have a booth again which is going to be weird.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I'm going to hazard a guess that he was definitely moving but had to finish out the company's contract. Indy is booked out until at least 2026 I want to say? I say that like guaranteed to be in the same place for five more years is not probably a fairly big commitment as-is in this world, but you know. Nobody has ever mounted a compelling case for a different location than Indianapolis being able to recreate the "gamer city" aspect, even if obviously there are other cities with more lodging close to a convention center from a purely technical sense. WerrWaaa posted:I saw this post had new replies and I thought GC22 discourse had already started and honestly I'm disappointed that wasn't it. It IS only about a month until the time I posted the thread last year... I might as well get started on that this weekend. Not doing anything else currently, but those moments are when jobs have most often fallen in my lap in the past, so we will see BlackIronHeart posted:Say what you will about GC21 but I brought a buddy to it as his first ever Gencon and he's so hyped for GC22. How hyped? His brother is getting married next year and my friend will be a groomsman but he's asked his brother to please keep GC dates in mind while selecting the wedding date. I am sure I have still never been forgiven for skipping my buddy's wedding in 2008 for Gen-Con. But, well, what can I say, I am monogamous. Also I THINK I would skip Gen-Con for the right event; obviously I already did it once for that whole "having a baby on the Saturday of Gen-Con" tradition we all have in this thread nesbit37 posted:Planning for GC22? I thought this was just Quarex and my thread for talking about gen con history now. We can find our own secret place for talking about nerdy history. I have an idea: I will move into an alley near your house and shout any ideas I have from a dumpster Edit: Also ahahaha Alan DeSmet 2003 posted:True Dungeon was a blast! It wasn't my dream LARP, but it far better than I would have expected was possible at a large convention. Absolutely worth $15 to play. Hopefully they'll return next year.
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Dr. Quarex posted:
Excellent plan. Not really any allys nearby but there are yards for you to skulking in. True Dungeon @ $15 is absolutely worth it. I don't know how people can justify it at eleventybillion dollars per run today.
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I'm always baffled by the groups trading with huge binders of the True Dungeon loot box tokens. That's like thousands of dollars of larp equivalent buttcoins.
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I tried to get into true dungeon maybe 5 years ago and just couldn't do it. Too much money on tokens. I still have some pricey ones I should sell.
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The thing that bums me out involving TD are when the supposed intro/newbie runs get bought out by folks who are completely kitted out and on their nth run of the con. More intro runs, lower virtual TD cost, shift the income away from whales to get new blood - that's what I want to see.
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I may be overestimating how many whales there are, but I imagine the token trade may well be the primary aspect of their business where they make money, suggesting they upset the whales at their peril. It at least logically is low-cost and high-profit, unlike basically everything else they seem to be doing. Alternately, bring back the 2003 setup for $15
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As someone who worked on True Dungeon in the 03-04 era both at Indy and SoCal, I appreciate that they paid to fly me to multiple GenCons, house me in better accommodations than any anime con willingly did, and that they were novel and interesting at the time and I learned a lot over the course of my time there. I would not piss on them if they were on fire though. Re: cost, It's effectively a massively larger escape room with lootboxes, and the escape room we went to this year was appreciably more than $15, so good luck!
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Dr. Quarex posted:That is awesome. Your buddy is a good buddy, roger. Particularly given the endless tragedy of Dear Fellis this year. Yeah that was a shitshow, I'm glad I went but I would have far preferred to be at Gencon. I only have one other friend who I would skip GC for and he's my roommate so he probably can't plan a wedding without me hearing about it. Bottom Liner posted:larp equivalent buttcoins. perfect description. I run virtual TD with a group that has poured a ton of money in, and it's fun when you have all the gear loaned to you without having to own it. I've pulled some good tokens, now I just have the buttcoin problem of finding another rube to sell them to. There are some cool puzzles and encounters, and the virtual experience has gotten much better as it's gone on. I don't think it's worth it aside from enjoying the company of the people I run with though 
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Dr. Quarex posted:HELL YES I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS I just went through all of these and its good stuff. I also tracked down a few of the accounts from the Gen Con livejournal group, but there must be more of them. It just isn't clear the best way to search that at this time but I need to put more time into it. I am sure there are a lot of single person accounts of the events out there, its just tracking them all down that is going to be a pain in the rear end.
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Can anyone think of various groups at Gen Con that may have online forums I can scrape? I am going through the True Dungeon forums today and am just wondering what other groups may have similar online presences going back a few years. I just checked Fight in the Skies Society and their forums were not active enough to bother scraping. It may be a lost cause but I am happy to follow up on any leads to other groups I don't follow. I have no idea if there is a magic community that would be posting Gen Con after action reports, for example. edit: Just fyi I've already scraped the Gen Con forums (which don't go back that far) and BoardGameGeek going back to 2004. nesbit37 fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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nesbit37 posted:Can anyone think of various groups at Gen Con that may have online forums I can scrape? I am going through the True Dungeon forums today and am just wondering what other groups may have similar online presences going back a few years. I just checked Fight in the Skies Society and their forums were not active enough to bother scraping. It may be a lost cause but I am happy to follow up on any leads to other groups I don't follow. I have no idea if there is a magic community that would be posting Gen Con after action reports, for example. Paizo/Pathfinder?
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nesbit37 posted:Can anyone think of various groups at Gen Con that may have online forums I can scrape? I am going through the True Dungeon forums today and am just wondering what other groups may have similar online presences going back a few years. I just checked Fight in the Skies Society and their forums were not active enough to bother scraping. It may be a lost cause but I am happy to follow up on any leads to other groups I don't follow. I have no idea if there is a magic community that would be posting Gen Con after action reports, for example. The Magic community is so spread out, I doubt there's anything to find. There might be some old event calendars somewhere on a judge message board, but the only real major event that gets coverage was the World Cup back in... 2012-ish? Most of the Magic at Gen Con is either casual, or just con-specific, like "the Gen Con championship" and I don't think it gets any coverage or published decklists or anything. Pastimes runs it, though, so maybe they have like blog posts or something about their events. Any Magic-specific forums or subreddits or whatever might have some passing mentions of the con, but honestly, it's not really a thing on the radar like GPs or MagicFests or whatever. (Maybe next year if GPs or MagicFests aren't back yet? Who knows.)
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nesbit37 posted:Can anyone think of various groups at Gen Con that may have online forums I can scrape? I am going through the True Dungeon forums today and am just wondering what other groups may have similar online presences going back a few years. I just checked Fight in the Skies Society and their forums were not active enough to bother scraping. It may be a lost cause but I am happy to follow up on any leads to other groups I don't follow. I have no idea if there is a magic community that would be posting Gen Con after action reports, for example. quote:There is an official Gen Con discord @ https://discord.gg/XupYhK2ksT. One of the channels there is "Gen Con Memories." It's filed under Gen Con 2020 but I've seen requests for stuff from the 90s and people have posted them. I would check it out and see what you can get. might be a good resource
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Ok, I wasn't really sure on the magic stuff. Its so bug and has been a big part of the convention for so long I figure people had to be talking about gen con somewhere. I just wasn't sure if it was one central place or a whole bulkanized set of places. I'm on the Gen Con discord and will definitely check there as well. I am going to do some memory based stuff but am more interested in contemporary accounts. Memory can color history so much. I'm also not sure how to scrape a discord channel but need to look into it. Future historians are going to be so screwed doing research from like 2015 on. There are so many little places people post poo poo and most of them are not even semi permanent. Add on that the issues of scraping places like Facebook and its just a nightmare. Its going to be annoying tracking down magazine articles and stuff for the pre 2000 gen cons but at least I'll be more confident about how much of the conversation I am catching.
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For context, that comment was to someone asking for old pictures, so they meant people were sharing old photos and not just writing memories. Not sure if photos help your project much but can’t hurt! For scraping Discord the search is actually pretty good, you can search channels for embeds, links, etc. Makes it pretty easy to scrape.
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nesbit37 posted:Can anyone think of various groups at Gen Con that may have online forums I can scrape? I am going through the True Dungeon forums today and am just wondering what other groups may have similar online presences going back a few years. I just checked Fight in the Skies Society and their forums were not active enough to bother scraping. It may be a lost cause but I am happy to follow up on any leads to other groups I don't follow. I have no idea if there is a magic community that would be posting Gen Con after action reports, for example. Oh yeah, it used to be http://community.gencon.com/forums/ before it was http://www.gencon.com/forums so that is why the Wayback Machine stops at 2016 I FEEL like they had forums before 2006, as I swear that was when they switched to the new system and is the reason I have such a low ID number for the convention, but I am not 100% sure. For that matter, Wizards of the Coast themselves had a forum they were pushing hard in the mid-2000s; do those even still exist? How about GLEEMAX oh man, these memories. Infrno? Also for some reason furries immediately come to mind given how I have been seeing them proudly wearing their tails and ears there longer than anywhere else. But that would be a challenge to figure out where furries specifically talk about conventions. No shame if anyone here happens to know Did Penny Arcade have forums before PAX? I suppose they might have talked about it even after, but there was definitely reactionary hostility on the Unplugged forum when I brought it up (because lines are life) nesbit37 posted:I'm also not sure how to scrape a discord channel but need to look into it. Future historians are going to be so screwed doing research from like 2015 on. There are so many little places people post poo poo and most of them are not even semi permanent. Add on that the issues of scraping places like Facebook and its just a nightmare. Its going to be annoying tracking down magazine articles and stuff for the pre 2000 gen cons but at least I'll be more confident about how much of the conversation I am catching.
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Well I definitely have my work cut out for me. I've been gathering the online content for about 2 weeks now and so far I have: 218 pages of forum posts 140 website and youtube links 204 videos between Nelly and TheOneTar The claim for Lucasarts v. Gen Con I still have to scrape the relevant pages of the Something Awful Gen Con threads. All of this content is just for Gen Con from roughly 2003 to 2021, most of it is for 2013 on. There is still some more out there I can probably scrape but I'll probably stop gathering internet material within the next week or so and move on to trying to ID magazines from 1980-2010 that may have Gen Con recaps in them and then try to acquire them. If you remember the titles of any gaming magazines from those eras let me know the titles and I'll add them to my lists if I don't already have them down. edit: 99% of this is Gen Con recap content. If I just wanted anything to do with Gen Con there would be tons more. nesbit37 fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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It is fantastic how it seems to be nigh-impossible to search Usenet posts nowadays, despite that being such an obvious archive to logically keep up. I am sure I myself talked about Gen-Con on like rec.rpg.dnd.whatever in 1997!
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Yeah I haven't really tried to search usenet yet. Its coming, though. If usent doesn't have anything i can find it will probably be magazine recaps only for 2001 and earlier.
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In my dredging of the internet for past Gen Con info I found this episode of X-Play from 2002 covering the last Milwaukee Gen Con I thought you all might be interested in seeing. Its about a 5 minute long segment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouYMIHJ7QYA&t=60s nesbit37 fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Haha, I think those might be booth guys from the legendary forgotten Battle T.A.G.S. at 5:56. Thanks for that link, as I definitely never saw it before when trying to drep-dive Gen-Con-related videos. I only remember the giant D20 otherwise. I am also amused that Calye Calhoun is none of those chainmail bikini women, considering I thought she was literally the only one who did that. I had no idea it was a trend. I am kind of proud that I paid so little attention to it at the time
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Posting this mostly for Quarex since he is probably most likely to read these beyond me. I found a murder mystery book trilogy that takes place at Gen Con. Its not bad, I read half of the first one last night. They aren't terribly long, less than 200 pages, and are packed with Gen Con nostalgia and the who's who of Gen Con from roughly a decade ago. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/m/product/114405
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https://www.gencon.com/press/gen-con-2022-badge-registration Masks again, also a vaccine requirement.
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I was really pleased with how well everyone obeyed the mask mandate last year, and the added vaccine requirement makes me happy. Excited for Gen Con this year, but really interested to see what dealer/organizer attendance looks like. I’m going to be sad if Paizo doesn’t come back, i want my early morning PACG sessions back  .
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I apologize for not beating that announcement with the new thread, though honestly that was a good impetus to make sure I finished it. Already got the thread title and most of the starter post words done!
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Agrias120 posted:I was really pleased with how well everyone obeyed the mask mandate last year, and the added vaccine requirement makes me happy. Excited for Gen Con this year, but really interested to see what dealer/organizer attendance looks like. Same, especially if any of our international friends can make it or not. I will say that while I saw pretty great mask adherence in the convention center, the hotel lobbies were free-for-alls especially once the football crowd showed up Saturday night.
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Dr. Quarex posted:I apologize for not beating that announcement with the new thread, though honestly that was a good impetus to make sure I finished it. Already got the thread title and most of the starter post words done! There better be a section praising me or I'll riot!!!
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