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Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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BEING
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#1 SIMP

Hairy Right Hook posted:

Hey man, he's a weird one I know, but he's a solid man.

He’s not AI, he’s my brother.

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johnny sack
Jan 30, 2004

One day, this team will play to their expectations...

Just not this year..

Orvin posted:

Hey, I know this song. Except maybe the “leader in the field part”. The electric utility I work for has like 4-5 different pieces of software cludged together for outage requests. And none of it is automated in a good way. If you need to move/change anything on an outage request, you have to talk to a couple of different departments in a specific order, or the changes either are not possible, or get undone.

Add in some time pressure due to the distribution side of the company being critically understaffed, so they are not looking at requests until 10 days out from the outage start. Which leads to an almost continual scramble to get things fixed on the paperwork so that an outage can be properly set up.

And the executives wonder why none of our projects can hit their budget anymore.

Ha I love the coordination with different departments, in a specific order. Our engineering change orders have a similar process.
The document system (Agile) has functionality to automate certain approval processes within a change order routing. Instead, they have opted to use humans as change analysts to push forward change orders. Business rules could be created to automate the exact thing that people do but they stick with people.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Automated Intelligence

Bored
Jul 26, 2007

Dude, ix-nay on the oice-vay.

Cyrano4747 posted:

Your average middle-manager needs to be a Sergent. Someone who knows what the dudes on the line need, who can talk to officers and speaks their language, but who ultimately understands that they're full of poo poo and can gripe with this guys and shield them from stupidity.

Your average middle-manager instead is a Lieutenant, a junior officer who desperately wants to suck up enough to become a big officer and who is 100% drinking every ounce of kool aid they can find.

I don’t care if this is from several months ago. This is the problem with most corporations from my viewpoint, as pleb.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Bored posted:

I don’t care if this is from several months ago. This is the problem with most corporations from my viewpoint, as pleb.

It's still very much true.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Bored posted:

I don’t care if this is from several months ago. This is the problem with most corporations from my viewpoint, as pleb.

As a manager, also +1 that. We could all be drinking margaritas after a 20 hr work week in our luxury gay space socialist utopia by now if we didn't have poo poo middle managers and greedy C-suite scumbags.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Outrail posted:

As a manager, also +1 that. We could all be drinking margaritas after a 20 hr work week in our luxury gay space socialist utopia by now if we didn't have poo poo middle managers and greedy C-suite scumbags.

poo poo middle managers is a problem, I say this as a middle manager. You make a proposal to make things better or even just to do part of your job, but then all the other managers complain they have no time or just don't want to do it so the idea dies. So for dept wide policies you get anchored to the laziest, worst manager.

Pyrtanis
Jun 30, 2007

The ghosts of our glories are gray-bearded guides
Fun Shoe
Almost lost my poo poo on the dogfucking driver today because he refused to preload saying he could do it tomorrow. He gets in at 7 and will not leave the yard before 9. It takes him 4 hours to do what should be a 2.5 hour run. The customer has emailed me no less than 4 times confirming morning delivery. I called the manager with the driver there and he got told to load it, and if I hear one loving word about my attitude I will walk, my healthcare isn't tied to my employment now and they need me far, far more than I need them. This rear end in a top hat has been allowed to do this for years, he will sit in the parts room watching YouTube and yet he's babied. Everyone is 200% done with his poo poo

raaaaage

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


I have been tasked to find a very specific manufacturing consultant and my searches are yielding a lot of dogshit management and marketing consultants

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Aramoro posted:

poo poo middle managers is a problem, I say this as a middle manager. You make a proposal to make things better or even just to do part of your job, but then all the other managers complain they have no time or just don't want to do it so the idea dies. So for dept wide policies you get anchored to the laziest, worst manager.

And so if you do anything that would improve things somewhat, that requires anyone to also buy in, you'll end up doing twice as much work to achieve less, because you'll spend your existence cleaning up after all the lazy fucks who nodded along at the beginning but will never, ever actually follow the plan.

E: Even if it was their idea to begin with.

DeeplyConcerned
Apr 29, 2008

I can fit 3 whole bud light cans now, ask me how!

peanut posted:

I have been tasked to find a very specific manufacturing consultant and my searches are yielding a lot of dogshit management and marketing consultants

All the manufacturing consultants have been taken. You're gonna have to make do with some other type of consultant until the labor market slackens.

Internetjack
Sep 15, 2007

oh god how did this get here i am not good with computers
Top Cop
I had a part-time job in high school cleaning the kitchen at a bakery. Essentially 4 hours in the afternoon, 4 days a week. It was fine and easy because I'd be on my own most of my shift.

Problem was that I was too ambitious in my cleaning. The baking trays were all crusted up from years of use, and I assumed they needed to be polished clean. Nope, wrong. That layer on there was important to help balance temperatures and bake times. The owner finally confronted me and showed me personally how to wash them properly. It was "dip them in the hot water and soap, wipe them down in about 5 seconds, and then set them to dry". I was spending several minutes on each one.

So I do what I'm told and I understood that this was normal for a bakery. But it shortened my work load tremendously. I'd be done in two hours on a four hour shift. Being there by myself for the last couple of hours there was nothing to do. Fortunately there was a comic shop next door so I would go over there, get a couple comics, then go sit in the clean kitchen reading them. Eat an eclair or pastry. End of shift, lock-up and head out.

Chewbecca
Feb 13, 2005

Just chillin' : )

Internetjack posted:

I had a part-time job in high school cleaning the kitchen at a bakery. Essentially 4 hours in the afternoon, 4 days a week. It was fine and easy because I'd be on my own most of my shift.

Problem was that I was too ambitious in my cleaning. The baking trays were all crusted up from years of use, and I assumed they needed to be polished clean. Nope, wrong. That layer on there was important to help balance temperatures and bake times. The owner finally confronted me and showed me personally how to wash them properly. It was "dip them in the hot water and soap, wipe them down in about 5 seconds, and then set them to dry". I was spending several minutes on each one.

So I do what I'm told and I understood that this was normal for a bakery. But it shortened my work load tremendously. I'd be done in two hours on a four hour shift. Being there by myself for the last couple of hours there was nothing to do. Fortunately there was a comic shop next door so I would go over there, get a couple comics, then go sit in the clean kitchen reading them. Eat an eclair or pastry. End of shift, lock-up and head out.

There's a lesson in your story but after a horrendous day at work I'm failing to grasp what it is

Sure does resonate though. At least you weren't asked to clean other people's things I guess!

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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The lesson is to properly define and manage expectations with all stakeholders before starting work.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Outrail posted:

The lesson is to properly define and manage expectations with all stakeholders before starting work.

That's right, ten times your initial investment in three months. There won't be any problems because there is no testing.

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

Sywert of Thieves posted:

The only proper reason to use "AI" is to have it create pictures of silly stuff. Last week one of my coworkers had his bday and he made some image of a model-like handsome dude playing with legos (i.e. himself) and plastered it everywhere.

I came here to say that apparently the reason my image was needed was because of "LDR Outputs" which was a thing my wife had to explain to me, but found people complaining about AI and that poo poo consumed half my day.

I completely forgot that my local bagel place had an NFC reader and twice now I've accidentally got my corporate card too close to their console. The first time was over a year ago and I just logged into my corporate account and paid the $15 for the sandwiches (I swear this place is a good deal, my wife just likes their BLT and it comes with a pickle plus a bag of chips). This latest time I couldn't log into my account for some reason and despite resetting my password, having my employee ID and providing the answer to all my security questions (all stored on my phone's OneNotes) I was still denied access to my account.

I've never yelled at something as much as I have at the AI Citi has set up. I just wanted to pay $15 to a bagel place. It hung up on me on our second call. I had to input my card number, date of birth and the last four digits of my SSN each time I called in and yelling "HUMAN" or "OPERATOR" with all the gusto the caps lock quotes imply just gave me a "I understand you are frustrated" response while fake keyboard sounds played. I really loved yelling at the AI as it tried to figure out how to sort my problem, it was cathartic as I can't be mad at humans. The second person I talked to resolved all my problems, got the $15.65 fixed and she told me what employee number I needed to use to log into my account because I have six options there. To get to this person I had to yell at an AI for 20 minutes. I had to input my card number, DOB and SSN twice. AI loving sucks. I take solace in the fact that I probably fuked the LLM due to the amount of swears issued in my attempt to talk to a human. I told the AI that I would set fire to their server farm. AI loving sucks is the takeaway here.

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Lazyfire posted:

It hung up on me on our second call. I had to input my card number, date of birth and the last four digits of my SSN each time I called in and yelling "HUMAN" or "OPERATOR" with all the gusto the caps lock quotes imply just gave me a "I understand you are frustrated" response while fake keyboard sounds played. I really loved yelling at the AI as it tried to figure out how to sort my problem, it was cathartic as I can't be mad at humans. The second person I talked to resolved all my problems, got the $15.65 fixed and she told me what employee number I needed to use to log into my account because I have six options there. To get to this person I had to yell at an AI for 20 minutes. I had to input my card number, DOB and SSN twice. AI loving sucks. I take solace in the fact that I probably fuked the LLM due to the amount of swears issued in my attempt to talk to a human. I told the AI that I would set fire to their server farm. AI loving sucks is the takeaway here.

If you want a real treat, try to call MSFT for a billing issue, the AI operator will ask you for your domain name, not understand, then tell you to go to the website then hang up on you. If you try the OPERATOR or HUMAN or HELP ME YOU UPJUMPED TOASTER it cheerfully says that everyone is busy and you should put in a ticket online. Then hang up on you.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Lazyfire posted:

I came here to say that apparently the reason my image was needed was because of "LDR Outputs" which was a thing my wife had to explain to me, but found people complaining about AI and that poo poo consumed half my day.

I completely forgot that my local bagel place had an NFC reader and twice now I've accidentally got my corporate card too close to their console. The first time was over a year ago and I just logged into my corporate account and paid the $15 for the sandwiches (I swear this place is a good deal, my wife just likes their BLT and it comes with a pickle plus a bag of chips). This latest time I couldn't log into my account for some reason and despite resetting my password, having my employee ID and providing the answer to all my security questions (all stored on my phone's OneNotes) I was still denied access to my account.

I've never yelled at something as much as I have at the AI Citi has set up. I just wanted to pay $15 to a bagel place. It hung up on me on our second call. I had to input my card number, date of birth and the last four digits of my SSN each time I called in and yelling "HUMAN" or "OPERATOR" with all the gusto the caps lock quotes imply just gave me a "I understand you are frustrated" response while fake keyboard sounds played. I really loved yelling at the AI as it tried to figure out how to sort my problem, it was cathartic as I can't be mad at humans. The second person I talked to resolved all my problems, got the $15.65 fixed and she told me what employee number I needed to use to log into my account because I have six options there. To get to this person I had to yell at an AI for 20 minutes. I had to input my card number, DOB and SSN twice. AI loving sucks. I take solace in the fact that I probably fuked the LLM due to the amount of swears issued in my attempt to talk to a human. I told the AI that I would set fire to their server farm. AI loving sucks is the takeaway here.

They saved $10k overall globally and got to say "AI" a whole lot is their takeaway.

Domus
May 7, 2007

Kidney Buddies
Our company is going to start charging credit card fees of 3.9 percent. I’m really not sure how to react to this. It was announced in a very sneaky manner and a lot of our customers are going to be hit by it without pre knowledge of the surcharge. I am torn between protesting that we have not in the past been the lovely kind of company that pulls this stuff, threatening to quit because of how they’re treating customers, just ignoring the announcement email and not charging the fee because no one ever checks what I bill, and just accepting it and being part of the scum. I wouldn’t have a problem if they just raised prices by 4 percent. That’s fair. It’s the hiding the info in a random email, and the fact that it’s only going to impact the struggling little guys that really bugs me. I hate this end stage capitalism bullshit. My workplace may be a disaster but I’m otherwise happy here. What do you guys think?

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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One day it'll be illegal to verbally abuse an AI or knowingly feed it garbage language as they are considered people corporate property.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




Outrail posted:

One day it'll be illegal to verbally abuse an AI or knowingly feed it garbage language as they are considered people corporate property.

"John Spartan you are fined one credit..."

Chewbecca
Feb 13, 2005

Just chillin' : )
I've cried 3 times at work today, and it's not even 3pm

Chewbecca
Feb 13, 2005

Just chillin' : )
https://twitter.com/nonprofitssay/status/1782802351017054422

Barudak
May 7, 2007


Subjugate our enemies
Manipulate the government
Attack the weak
Raise our prices
Terrify citizens

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Barudak posted:

Subjugate our enemies
Manipulate the government
Attack the weak
Raise our prices
Terrify citizens

 

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
1) Exceed your previous quarterly average CPD (cries per day) by 10% or greater.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Oh I got a new job a while back. They haven't done anything dumb yet. My old job is apparently doing OK so far at least partially due to the documentation I left behind (I need to post about that later) but that won't last because a) they're not planning to replace me and b) they haven't even started fixing any of the "oh god what the gently caress" problems I found and left solutions for before I left (I need to post about that later too)

Sywert of Thieves
Nov 7, 2005

The pirate code is really more of a guideline, than actual rules.


This is infuriating to me because my manager pulled this poo poo on me 3 weeks before my yearly review, and then complained I only listed problems and not enough concrete solutions. They denied my yearly COL raise based on this (and only this, instead of the work I had done that entire year).

One of my bullet points was 'these 2-3 people are overloaded with work, we should hire more people to offload them before they burnout'. A month later one of them had a burnout and stopped working for a few months.

Anyone want to guess who it was? IT WAS THE SAME loving MANAGER

ScreenDoorThrillr
Jun 23, 2023
love 2 be given poo poo for taking a day of leave. I have 70 days of annual leave in my account

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


Suck
My
rear end
Repellent
Turds

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
Found out my old job simply gave up trying to find a replacement for me and abolished my post, dividing up my work against the 4 team members who were already there. It's not like there isn't enough to be done there for a 50 hour a week skilled worker!

What an inane business decision, I can't wait to find out if they survive the season without guys quitting, retiring or giving up.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

ScreenDoorThrillr posted:

love 2 be given poo poo for taking a day of leave. I have 70 days of annual leave in my account

Well, if you're gonna get poo poo for one day might as well take em all at once

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Sywert of Thieves posted:

This is infuriating to me because my manager pulled this poo poo on me 3 weeks before my yearly review, and then complained I only listed problems and not enough concrete solutions. They denied my yearly COL raise based on this (and only this, instead of the work I had done that entire year).

One of my bullet points was 'these 2-3 people are overloaded with work, we should hire more people to offload them before they burnout'. A month later one of them had a burnout and stopped working for a few months.

Anyone want to guess who it was? IT WAS THE SAME loving MANAGER
For a cool life hack that worked for me in a similar situation please see my last post.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Comfy 3 days gig 6 hrs away but my family has baseball tickets for a night game on day 3, wwyd?

Sywert of Thieves
Nov 7, 2005

The pirate code is really more of a guideline, than actual rules.

Splicer posted:

For a cool life hack that worked for me in a similar situation please see my last post.

Like Domus said earlier on this page: My workplace may be a disaster but I’m otherwise happy here. :shrug:

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

peanut posted:

Comfy 3 days gig 6 hrs away but my family has baseball tickets for a night game on day 3, wwyd?

Is baseball more important to you than money?

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Money can be used for more baseball...

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



Baseball is the second most boring sport after soccer, so take the gig.

Sormus
Jul 24, 2007

PREVENT SPACE-AIDS
sanitize your lovebot
between users :roboluv:
I've spent like a week trying to decide what kind of GAMING CHAIR my techs get.

Why:
Another supervisor and my direct boss, an actual manager, had a safety walk around my workshop & maintenance office areas and the other supervisor had some very good observations about the state of things in the factory maintenance workshop.
Following observation was highlighted as #1 priority:
1) Tech Office / Coffee room is a mismatch of 12 different styles of chairs in different states of disrepair

The Techs & Boss gave me following criteria for chair choice:
A) Must recline 140 degrees
B) Fake leather upholstery for cleaning
C) Must have weight rating at or above 120kg
D) Boss criteria: Must cost less than 300€/pc

What they get: L33T E-SPORT PRO EXCELLENCE GAMING CHAIR IN YELLOW!


...I may have chosen the loud yellow out of spite.

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McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

The yellow is hi-vis for safety.

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