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Failson
Sep 2, 2018
Fun Shoe
It's "Bring Your Kid to Work Day" AKA - SuperSpreader day, spring edition.

The Lone Badger posted:

Do you mean the aquatic mammal or the war-crime-enthusiasts?

It probably is the former, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NUoNnX045A

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Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

If I have to ask my coworker a question I have to ask him 5 god damned times in a loving row before this motherfucker will register ALL the words in his brain. Even if I say them slowly, clearly and am as brief as possible. gently caress this untreated adhd-rear end motherfucker.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
Yo it actually sucks to have ADHD, no need to be ableist about it

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


Had to call out today because I caught a stomach bug. Three other dudes were out yesterday for the same thing. My boss texts me back, "But it's (other worker)'s day off!" because he's upset the front desk will only have one person working instead of two, which means he'll have to help.

Dude, I don't care. I'm making GBS threads and puking like crazy, and I'm already seeing a specialist Monday to figure out why I keep making GBS threads blood. A stomach bug on top of this is loving awful, I feel awful, and do you really want me in to get everyone else sick? What the gently caress.

The only other days I've missed recently was when I had to go to the ER three months back (because I started making GBS threads blood at work badly) and then a month ago I left work when a coworker died (not at work, but he worked with me literally every day so I was a bit upset.)

gently caress this place. The only reason I stay is because they pay $22/hr and have halfway decent benefits.

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

If I have to ask my coworker a question I have to ask him 5 god damned times in a loving row before this motherfucker will register ALL the words in his brain. Even if I say them slowly, clearly and am as brief as possible. gently caress this untreated adhd-rear end motherfucker.

Dude, gently caress you. If you think it sucks to deal with from your end, imagine what it feels like to have to live with an auditory processing disorder. It's not something you can medicate, either.

It's just a job. Stop being ableist and grow some compassion.

Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004


The coworker might not be disabled... He might just be a moron

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
Seriously. As someone with ADHD that wasn't diagnosed until well into adulthood, it really sucked to wait what were we talking about again?

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
2am scrolling job postings on linked in is a sign things are going so well at my work

Chocobo
Oct 15, 2012


Here comes a new challenger!
Oven Wrangler
This week my tasks included destroying hundreds of thousands of dollars in gold and copper. We did it overnight, and I was told I did a good job.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Outrail posted:

A rare win there.

The consultant actually had something useful to input? Crazy.

This is a bit of a necro, but the board consultant at my last job, after hours, said the board was the most greedy and corrupt group of people he'd ever seen. After I quit he quit a few weeks later.

He also said wear wool socks when you are on the road, those were real words to live by.

Chocobo posted:

This week my tasks included destroying hundreds of thousands of dollars in gold and copper. We did it overnight, and I was told I did a good job.

"You destroyed that 100,000 dollars great job, where did it, go?" "We destroyed it, it's gone." "Great good job!"

Was that what happened? Really? Well poo poo I had a place tell me I should make a 6000 dollar touchscreen monitor disappear but I didn't take it like an idiot.

Washout fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Apr 26, 2024

Chocobo
Oct 15, 2012


Here comes a new challenger!
Oven Wrangler

Washout posted:

"You destroyed that 100,000 dollars great job, where did it, go?" "We destroyed it, it's gone." "Great good job!"

Was that what happened? Really? Well poo poo I had a place tell me I should make a 6000 dollar touchscreen monitor disappear but I didn't take it like an idiot.

To be fair, it was oversized ore that we couldn't really utilize. I could have smashed most of it down to useful size in the same amount of time, but that wasn't my orders. It was several times my annual income being destroyed in the span of a few hours.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Hey, peon, destroy this gold for me. It's too big, you see.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Chocobo posted:

To be fair, it was oversized ore that we couldn't really utilize. I could have smashed most of it down to useful size in the same amount of time, but that wasn't my orders. It was several times my annual income being destroyed in the span of a few hours.

I know that ore generally arrives at the berth pre-ground to a ideal size but lmao

TheBlackVegetable
Oct 29, 2006

Volmarias posted:

Seriously. As someone with ADHD that wasn't diagnosed until well into adulthood, it really sucked to wait what were we talking about again?

I'm pretty sure I have undiagnosed ADHD, and I've been meaning to get tested but for some reason I just can't find the motivation to call.

(I just self medicate with caffeine and Modafinil instead)

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 26, 2007

Never Stop Posting

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

If I have to ask my coworker a question I have to ask him 5 god damned times in a loving row before this motherfucker will register ALL the words in his brain. Even if I say them slowly, clearly and am as brief as possible. gently caress this untreated adhd-rear end motherfucker.

Sounds like just a guy. Most people are loving stupid. If you can read and retain information the first time you're in the 99th percentile

Source: my rear end.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

Sounds like just a guy. Most people are loving stupid. If you can read and retain information the first time you're in the 99th percentile

Source: my rear end.

Tl;dr

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

People with ADHD were at some point asked "Can I have your attention?" and didn't realize the person asking was a fae.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

Sounds like just a guy. Most people are loving stupid. If you can read and retain information the first time you're in the 99th percentile

Source: my rear end.

Just had a quick chat with my butthole and we think your dumb rear end is onto something.

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON
My partner has ADHD and has gotten medicated this year, it has helped immensely with the executive function but it doesn't necessarily automatically resolve the hearing/processing difficulties. ADHD is a disability and some portions can't be medicated away - even if your dude was medicated, there's a high possibility you'd still be doing this. And if someone had physical hearing difficulties, you wouldn't be like 'gently caress I gotta repeat myself for this loving deaf guy all the time, what an rear end in a top hat, learn to lipread'

StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Apr 26, 2024

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


I taught kindergarten for 15 years so when I need to tell someone something important like a meeting time/place I immediately follow up with relevant questions like "What time do we meet back here" and "How will you know it's the right place" that reinforce the essential information.

So far this has been effective with large groups, bored teenagers, and autistic preschoolers with echolalia, so please try it on your coworkers too.

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 26, 2007

Never Stop Posting

peanut posted:

I taught kindergarten for 15 years so when I need to tell someone something important like a meeting time/place I immediately follow up with relevant questions like "What time do we meet back here" and "How will you know it's the right place" that reinforce the essential information.

So far this has been effective with large groups, bored teenagers, and autistic preschoolers with echolalia, so please try it on your coworkers too.

Great idea, you can dress it up in business terms by asking for a back-brief.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?
It literally sounds like Charlie Brown's parents talking to you, it sucks rear end. I can manage everything else (and really should get assessed once I sort the rest of our poo poo) but the Auditory Processing poo poo is legitimately a massive issue, especially with background noise like phone static, or tattoo machines or my kid's white noise machine. People take it so personally too, my wife is wound up over it because I can otherwise hear a pin drop but talk to me in a room with a kettle boiling in it and I'll have to like bear down and concentrate like I'm charging a psychic attack to actually know what you've fuckin said to me

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

Sounds like just a guy. Most people are loving stupid. If you can read and retain information the first time you're in the 99th percentile

Source: my rear end.

Most of my disappointments at work essentially boil down to me making the mistake of assuming competency at the start.

Sloppy
Apr 25, 2003

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere.

Edit: nm not worth it

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

peanut posted:

I taught kindergarten for 15 years so when I need to tell someone something important like a meeting time/place I immediately follow up with relevant questions like "What time do we meet back here" and "How will you know it's the right place" that reinforce the essential information.

So far this has been effective with large groups, bored teenagers, and autistic preschoolers with echolalia, so please try it on your coworkers too.
All-levels communicator is a really easy soft skill to learn because it's like day 1 pedagogia. If you ever say the same thing 5 times in a row you're already doing it wrong or you're dealing with something so pointless or unneeded you should cast the memory from your mind as soon as you're done interacting.

Communication 1 - say everything as if you're talking to yourself filtered out for absolutely not understandable vocab or concepts. Normal jargon, a level of detail you would immediately understand, dressed up or down to what the level of the target should be able to understand after a few reiterations.
Communication 2 and demonstration 1 - say everything as if they are a little baby who was born yesterday. Translate jargon to the level they are at ex. executives and tradespeople have different focuses. Demonstrate what you want to get across in an ordered list or diagram, or demonstrate something in a tool or workspace that you're expecting the target to be using/doing.
Communication 3 and check for understanding - say everything as if you are talking to yourself unfiltered. The target should now play back what they heard in their own voice in confirmation.
Optional communication 4 - for large groups, do the equivalent of meeting minutes. This should be at baby level again with jargon only for clarity. Include demo 2 when possible ex. if there's a recording of something important, or if there's an ordered list/diagram of things that people need to do.

Same exact template whether I am telling the help how to transact in a business software or running a business process workshop.

Pyrtanis
Jun 30, 2007

The ghosts of our glories are gray-bearded guides
Fun Shoe

Shoehead posted:

It literally sounds like Charlie Brown's parents talking to you, it sucks rear end. I can manage everything else (and really should get assessed once I sort the rest of our poo poo) but the Auditory Processing poo poo is legitimately a massive issue, especially with background noise like phone static, or tattoo machines or my kid's white noise machine. People take it so personally too, my wife is wound up over it because I can otherwise hear a pin drop but talk to me in a room with a kettle boiling in it and I'll have to like bear down and concentrate like I'm charging a psychic attack to actually know what you've fuckin said to me

.... this makes sense why I was so good at transcription, listening to one voice and nothing else, and feel like I'm poo poo in a front office with the loving radio on, people talking at me constantly when I'm on the phone. I hate the loving radio so much and the second my coworker leaves at 3 I will immediately turn it down and just bask in the silence. I cope by keeping a gigantic notepad++ with several tabs for different things because lol if my brain will hold onto anything useful for more than 5 seconds

ask me where the moogle charm in ff6 is tho, I gotchu

Chewbecca
Feb 13, 2005

Just chillin' : )

thathonkey posted:

2am scrolling job postings on linked in is a sign things are going so well at my work

God speed, goon o7

The other day I came out of a meeting and hopped onto LinkedIn immediately afterwards to enable my 'open to work' banner lol

Can people I work with see it? Sure, I hope they do in fact

Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

Not only can the people you worked.irh see it, if they suck they'll pull you into the office and panic and demand you take down your resume.

It's neat.

Bixington
Feb 27, 2011

made me feel all nippley inside my tittychest
Nice to see some solidarity with auditory processing issues. Even people that really care fuckin' HATE repeating themselves.

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


I don't like it because I'm not listening to what I'm saying either and trying to remember what it was makes me flustered

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

peanut posted:

So far this has been effective with large groups, bored teenagers, and autistic preschoolers with echolalia, so please try it on your coworkers too.

You have to understand the people we work with aren't nearly as competent as your audience.

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.


Bixington posted:

Nice to see some solidarity with auditory processing issues. Even people that really care fuckin' HATE repeating themselves.

I have the variety that makes me say "What?" and by the time the person is halfway through repeating themselves, my brain has finally put the words together and I don't need it repeated. So much fun.

E wrong quote

Chewbecca
Feb 13, 2005

Just chillin' : )

Ravus Ursus posted:

Not only can the people you worked.irh see it, if they suck they'll pull you into the office and panic and demand you take down your resume.

It's neat.

In Australia they won't demand poo poo if they know what's good for them.

I'm looking forward to a future out of that horrid place, but god knows how long it will take in this market :sigh:

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Shoehead posted:

It literally sounds like Charlie Brown's parents talking to you, it sucks rear end. I can manage everything else (and really should get assessed once I sort the rest of our poo poo) but the Auditory Processing poo poo is legitimately a massive issue, especially with background noise like phone static, or tattoo machines or my kid's white noise machine. People take it so personally too, my wife is wound up over it because I can otherwise hear a pin drop but talk to me in a room with a kettle boiling in it and I'll have to like bear down and concentrate like I'm charging a psychic attack to actually know what you've fuckin said to me

Ohhh this describes me frequently, background noise messes me up especially phone calls and this is a challenge because I'm an interpreter getting blasted with two languages at once

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

For anyone who struggles separating background noise from the thing you're listening to I highly recommend getting some misophonia earplugs. I got Flare Calmers for only $25 and they solved a whole lot of issues for me. They're not standard earplugs that block out noise, they're specifically made for people with misophonia or hyperacusis and they just block out the parts of noises that make it difficult to concentrate or cause distress.

I've heard the more expensive Calmer Pro is better (easier to insert/remove, more comfortable even though the regular isn't exactly uncomfortable, works a lil better), if I could go back in time I'd probably buy those instead

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




StrangersInTheNight posted:

My partner has ADHD and has gotten medicated this year, it has helped immensely with the executive function but it doesn't necessarily automatically resolve the hearing/processing difficulties. ADHD is a disability and some portions can't be medicated away - even if your dude was medicated, there's a high possibility you'd still be doing this. And if someone had physical hearing difficulties, you wouldn't be like 'gently caress I gotta repeat myself for this loving deaf guy all the time, what an rear end in a top hat, learn to lipread'

Quoting this post but could have been one of a few here.

So I managed a small team and I had someone in my team a while back who suffered from severe ADHD. Problem was they would not engage with the business at all about thier issues. So from the outside thier performance looked all over the place, like they were just a lazy bad employee. I was getting asked to put them on a PIP for performance but I can't raise thier medical issue with HR. I don't even need to know the issue, I just need HR to know so it can be factored into performance goals. The business cannot make accommodations if they don't know there's accommodations to make. Mental health issues are just as relevant as any physical disability and in my experience folk are happy to make an effort. But someone in the business needs to know.

Did eventually get them to chat to HR about it and everything got sorted out in the end. They still work there. So all good in the end.

Not all businesses will welcome that information but even the US has fairly strong ADA protections as I understand.

bee
Dec 17, 2008


Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?
Not sure if it's similar overseas but here in Australia, you don't even have to tell your employer what your disability is, just naming the accommodations you need is enough to get support. I work in HR and specifically within disability inclusion and there's lots of things I've gotten sorted for employees (noise cancelling headphones, light diffusers, etc) but what really seems to make a huge difference for people is having a manager who is able to have a conversation about how they can best support their employee to do their role.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Collateral Damage posted:

People with ADHD were at some point asked "Can I have your attention?" and didn't realize the person asking was a fae.

gently caress, suddenly it all makes sense

Shoehead posted:

It literally sounds like Charlie Brown's parents talking to you, it sucks rear end. I can manage everything else (and really should get assessed once I sort the rest of our poo poo) but the Auditory Processing poo poo is legitimately a massive issue, especially with background noise like phone static, or tattoo machines or my kid's white noise machine. People take it so personally too, my wife is wound up over it because I can otherwise hear a pin drop but talk to me in a room with a kettle boiling in it and I'll have to like bear down and concentrate like I'm charging a psychic attack to actually know what you've fuckin said to me

Auditory processing is the absolute worst. How do you explain to someone "yeah, I heard you, in the same way that you hear someone speak a foreign language you don't know" without sounding like a tool? And then there are people with strong accents; I don't want to seem racist! I just want you to take my request that we do text only or video calls seriously because I literally cannot understand you otherwise!

I especially hate, hate, hate voice only phone calls. Video calling is the absolute best and I absolutely prefer it whenever possible, and I'm glad that it exists. I utterly hate that some people feel "let me just pick up the phone and talk to the person that way" is the best way to communicate, I'm sure it might be for them but fffffffffffffffff

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Seems to me like you're just not a team player.

Kidding, I have ADHD and processing issues too. :sympathy:

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MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

Sounds like just a guy. Most people are loving stupid. If you can read and retain information the first time you're in the 99th percentile

Source: my rear end.

I literally had to tell people to get the gently caress out of an aseptic cleanroom and never come back because they had a couple claustrophobic panic attacks in the room during drug fills after 2 months of training that included 2 weeks of daily gowning practice.

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