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Hotel Kpro posted:I’ve had very little work to do since I started this job in November. Super close to being done with my degree and they said I’ll get promoted when it’s done. Feels weird being rewarded for not doing very much real work but I’ll take it. Maybe they’ll expect more from me? Who knows I'm in a similar situation, it feels weird. Excelling in my current role to the point where I'm getting callouts in other departments' all hands meetings for what a good job I'm doing takes about as much effort as barely scraping by in every role I've ever had before. I'm still getting 6-7 hours of free time every day to sit around playing videogames or working on classwork. It's truly a blessed job, congrats on finding one 
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NPR Journalizard posted:Also, it turns out that I work with multiple people who are boomer enough to prefer to talk on phone, but savvy enough to know how to do a screen share through Teams, so i get people calling me and then sharing their screen and its really annoying.
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Cthulu Carl posted:I learned this One Weird Trick years ago: When you hang up, do it while you're talking. Makes it much more believable that it was a connection issue because who hangs up on a call when their mid-sentence? This is 100% true.
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Knormal posted:There's a couple people at my place who always turn on their camera when I Teams call them. It's so awkward, I don't need to be staring at you while we talk. Meanwhile their boss gives them a hard time for never turning their camera on. Can’t win.
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Knormal posted:There's a couple people at my place who always turn on their camera when I Teams call them. It's so awkward, I don't need to be staring at you while we talk. Ok continuing Teams chat - I think some people think that's something that is expected - like it is a video chat program and that's all it can be used for. Same people in my org never use it for quick chat questions, calendar-checks, etc. All Calls are VideoCalls (tm) Excuse me, I need to answer the 10 emails in my box "can you be on a teams call at X:pm today?"
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Hotel Kpro posted:I’ve had very little work to do since I started this job in November. Super close to being done with my degree and they said I’ll get promoted when it’s done. Feels weird being rewarded for not doing very much real work but I’ll take it. Maybe they’ll expect more from me? Who knows Often your job gets easier and easier the higher up you climb. The people earning the least are the ones working the hardest. My current promotion is so much less stressful than what I had been doing.
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Apr 19, 2024 18:41
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I loving hate “AI.” gently caress you!
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Thesaurus posted:Often your job gets easier and easier the higher up you climb. The people earning the least are the ones working the hardest. My current promotion is so much less stressful than what I had been doing. Yeah my average working week now is like 60% sat with my thumb up my rear end, 30% doing my BAU poo poo and 10% white knuckle action. The white knuckle times are infinitely more stressful than any of the poo poo I had to do all day every day when I joined the company but I get so much more downtime (hell, any downtime at all) that it’s a way better gig. That and the much fatter paycheque make it all worthwhile.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Yeah my average working week now is like 60% sat with my thumb up my rear end, 30% doing my BAU poo poo and 10% white knuckle action. Excellent work, Agent 47.
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:I loving hate “AI.” gently caress you! I have been fascinated by the venting about students thread for how the students are writing assignments with LLM (badly) and the anti-plagiarism/AI tools the schools have are even worse. Hasn't really hit my industry much yet. I used it to write some basic input/output tools for me that I just had to minorly unfuck.
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As with almost everything it’s not necessarily the thing but the culture surrounding it. I have people making high 6 figure salaries gaslighting me to my face in order to justify their continued existence. Go gently caress a pole up your rear end, AI!
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It's the same basic problem that machine translation introduced to with the same basic parameters. Yeah, now anyone on the planet can get google to tell them how to say "Are there stairs in your house?" in every loving language imaginable. And yeah, that has some utility. It's great to be able to punch in some random text I need to know in a language that I don't have any clue about and get a pretty OK feel for what it's saying. But it's not a universal translator and the people who think it's going to solve all your language problems are idiots. No, google translate doesn't mean you can skip hiring a native speaker to localize your documents. No, it won't let you have a meaningful conversation in real time with someone. Yeah, if you really want to engage with people from that country you're going to have to put in the grunt work to learn the language, or at least hire someone who did. It's a useful tool. I speak pretty decent German and use it all the time to double check something I'm working on. Weird word I don't recognize? At this point it can be faster than hitting up ye olde dictionary. Writing a letter and stumbling over a spot of grammar I don't remember? Yoink. But lmao if you think it's good for anything beyond that. And, similar to the current LLM bullshit, it really had a deleterious impact on education. There are whole swaths of kids who get through Spanish 101 by google translating their homework and run into a brick loving wall the second they need to do something that goes beyond that. I knew a lady who taught French at the university I got my degree from who called a C in second year French the "google grade." Same basic poo poo. Right now it's crude as gently caress and has limited uses. In a decade it will be less crude and have more uses. But it's not the panacea for paying SMEs to do their job that MBAs are trying to convince themselves it is.
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Volmarias posted:Any older than... COBOL on a mainframe??? Or did you mean no older than 2020? On top of all the other poo poo we've been dealing with our security group decided unilaterally that I didn't need the same permissions I had in the old environment so now I can't do half my job.  My boss was supposed to leave over an hour ago and he's still working, the tickets are still rolling in and we're down 2 other people due to previously scheduled time off. I'm going to get very drunk this weekend.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Yeah, no older than 2020. I don't think Java was much of a thing when we spun up the mainframe in 1995. And we're a government agency so also pretty sure we're not using pirated software. Just to clarify, from Oracle's perspective, not paying them their blood money every year means it is pirated, not that y'all made the conscious effort to go torrent something with a cracker.
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Java has been free for like a decade and a half and not having a modern JVM anywhere you are deploying business apps is a collosal gently caress up of both the customer and the consultants. Congratulations, your digital system is worse than a DVD player.
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zedprime posted:Congratulations, your digital system is worse than a DVD player.
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Today it was declared we have no time for team leader meetings, because there is too much work. Without team leader meetings, we have no way to know how they want us to do the work. Management!
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My boomer coworker is enraged over diversity training. If they make him take diversity training, he will quit on the spot. There is no diversity training. He's just mad at the idea of it.
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Sounds like it would be a good training then
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Sounds like you should ask management to introduce diversity training.
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zedprime posted:Java has been free for like a decade and a half and not having a modern JVM anywhere you are deploying business apps is a collosal gently caress up of both the customer and the consultants. https://www.java.com/download/ie_manual.jsp posted:Important Oracle Java License Information
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Salami Surgeon posted:My boomer coworker is enraged over diversity training. If they make him take diversity training, he will quit on the spot. tell him that actions speak louder than words. quit now and take a principled stand against the very idea of diversity training. quit later and you're just the dude that wanted to get out of diversity training.
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Collateral Damage posted:Sounds like you should ask management to introduce diversity training. Clearly they need it for their blatant ageism. Get to it 
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:I loving hate “AI.” gently caress you! The only proper reason to use "AI" is to have it create pictures of silly stuff. Last week one of my coworkers had his bday and he made some image of a model-like handsome dude playing with legos (i.e. himself) and plastered it everywhere. Sywert of Thieves fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Apr 20, 2024 |
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Knormal posted:It was free for a decade and a half, then Oracle decided businesses needed to start paying if they wanted to use it past a certain version. lol
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DeeplyConcerned posted:tell him that actions speak louder than words. quit now and take a principled stand against the very idea of diversity training. quit later and you're just the dude that wanted to get out of diversity training. I've been telling him to quit. He's too in love with the idea of working. He can WFH but comes to the office every day to feel useful. But now they are expecting him to actually work, and he's threatening to quit over that too. My guess is that he will keep doing what he's always done until they fire him.
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Salami Surgeon posted:I've been telling him to quit. He's too in love with the idea of working. He can WFH but comes to the office every day to feel useful. But now they are expecting him to actually work, and he's threatening to quit over that too. My guess is that he will keep doing what he's always done until they fire him. That or promote him
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Sywert of Thieves posted:The only proper reason to use "AI" is to have it create pictures of silly stuff. Last week I've of my coworkers had his bday and he made some image of a model-like handsome dude playing with legos (i.e. himself) and plastered it everywhere. Even that is still stealing poo poo from real artists. We need a Butlerian Jihad, asap
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zedprime posted:Java has been free for like a decade and a half and not having a modern JVM anywhere you are deploying business apps is a collosal gently caress up of both the customer and the consultants. Oracle gotta Oracle. quote:Costs of Java licensing in 2023 The price list starts at $15 per month per employee - see https://www.oracle.com/a/ocom/docs/corporate/pricing/java-se-subscription-pricelist-5028356.pdf if you care. quote:The old (2019-on) subscription model was $2.50 a month for each desktop user and $25 a month for each Java SE processor ['*] * using Oracle's funky rules for what a "processor" is and that VMs don't count - e.g. if you put your 2cpu VM on a 500 cpu server, you need to buy a 500 cpu license). The way around that poo poo is to write to OpenJDK but that's something that really needs to be specified BEFORE software development starts.
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I work for a large corporation as a principal engineer. This is a company that many think of as a leader in its field. The systems we're forced to use are outdated, in some cases, by several decades. We have principal and higher engineers performing manual transactions in systems that were made 20+ years ago, without any updates to modernize them. They're so in bed with the old version of software that they'll effectively never get away from it. Rather than have a project team to work on moving to a modern system, that would free up literally thousand of engineering hours annually at my site alone, they double down by building more and more systems that have to communicate with this software. It's unbelievably slow, extremely limited in its capability, and non-compliant to the regulations, in some cases. Literal gaps to required regulations and nobody seems to care. They tout lean mindsets and have six sigma courses, but then set their engineers free to work in these old, manual, slow, awful systems.
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Knormal posted:It was free for a decade and a half, then Oracle decided businesses needed to start paying if they wanted to use it past a certain version. We did a massive push to get Java out of the environment last year. Our licensing was set to go from $3 million to $12 million and lol, gently caress that.
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TIL people still pay for Oracle's flavor of Java lol Edit: because of all the open source versions available for free.
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the company i work for is going all in on AI lol. it's something existing customers have never asked for. anyway, company probably wont exist in a year
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 *Struggling to deliver programming and run organisation* "I need help!" "We need to focus on program delivery and organisational management!" *Expends considerable effort leveraging sources of funding, hiring staff, and increasing capacity to manage organization and deliver on programs* "Wow, this is a huge budget." How will your team deliver on all this? Maybe we need to think about trimming it down."The more money you spend on something the more work it is. Here's how it works: Let's say you pay one person to build a house. They are overworked and unhappy. But if you pay two people to build the same house, it'll cost twice as much. Because the expenses doubled the same job is harder to do than it was before, and everyone will be more stressed and overworked. Now buy some equipment to help the two people do the job, that's even more expenses! You've made it harder, you idiot!The job is now basically impossible and everyone will quit. What you should do is cut the original worker's hours, give them no support and tell them to work faster, this decreases expenses and makes the job easier.
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johnny sack posted:I work for a large corporation as a principal engineer. This is a company that many think of as a leader in its field. The systems we're forced to use are outdated, in some cases, by several decades. We have principal and higher engineers performing manual transactions in systems that were made 20+ years ago, without any updates to modernize them. They're so in bed with the old version of software that they'll effectively never get away from it. Rather than have a project team to work on moving to a modern system, that would free up literally thousand of engineering hours annually at my site alone, they double down by building more and more systems that have to communicate with this software. It's unbelievably slow, extremely limited in its capability, and non-compliant to the regulations, in some cases. Literal gaps to required regulations and nobody seems to care. They tout lean mindsets and have six sigma courses, but then set their engineers free to work in these old, manual, slow, awful systems. Hey, I know this song. Except maybe the “leader in the field part”. The electric utility I work for has like 4-5 different pieces of software cludged together for outage requests. And none of it is automated in a good way. If you need to move/change anything on an outage request, you have to talk to a couple of different departments in a specific order, or the changes either are not possible, or get undone. Add in some time pressure due to the distribution side of the company being critically understaffed, so they are not looking at requests until 10 days out from the outage start. Which leads to an almost continual scramble to get things fixed on the paperwork so that an outage can be properly set up. And the executives wonder why none of our projects can hit their budget anymore.
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withoutclass posted:TIL people still pay for Oracle's flavor of Java lol
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withoutclass posted:TIL people still pay for Oracle's flavor of Java lol Corporate IT is all about vendor support contracts with SLAs. I've stopped bothering to give first hand RCAs and poo poo for a lot of stuff because it'll be easier to get whatever accepted if I just get my vendor to say in a ticket the thing I was going to say. e: also your dogshit java code is performing poorly on the server not because the server lacks cores or ram, it's because your dogshit spaghetti code stitched together by the lowest bidder code farm who bait and switched you with the sales engineer who was competent with the fresh off the streets warm bodies they actually assigned to the project suck at coding. Dameius fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Apr 20, 2024 |
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:I loving hate “AI.” gently caress you! Hey man, he's a weird one I know, but he's a solid man. Hairy Right Hook fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Apr 20, 2024 |
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Dameius posted:Corporate IT is all about vendor support contracts with SLAs. How did you get access to my code??
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withoutclass posted:How did you get access to my code?? Copy and pasted it into production from stack overflow.
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