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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > Cinema Discusso > Controversial People in Films
 
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TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

The Voice of Labor posted:

I don't want to derail over this either, but it's real basic formal logic.
Hello, actual philosophy expert stopping in to say you don't know what you're talking about. In formal logic we formalize "and" and "but" the same way, but this does not mean they are the same with respect to (say) conversational implicature, and in fact they aren't, for reasons so obvious that it's hard for people in this thread to even understand what you're saying because it's missing this point so badly. Examples have already been provided, but in case one more straw breaks the camel's back: if I say "I like to work out in the mornings, and today is Wednesday" then I've simply communicated in an odd fashion by conjoining two seemingly unrelated points. But, if I say "I like to work out in the mornings, but today is Wednesday," then via Grice's maxim of relevance, this implies that Wednesday mornings are somehow not conducive to working out.

Back on track with the thread: I don't like supporting shitheads with money when they are publicly known to be prominent shitheads, because once their shitheadery is publicly known, this is when financial pressure via boycott can actually achieve something. But none of this has any impact on my enjoyment of a work; I can compartmentalize pretty easily for various reasons. One reason is that I think I have pretty high standards for what a "good" person is, and so if I wanted to, I could let almost every movie be ruined because one person or another fails to live up to my high standards. So it's basically "enjoy everything" or "enjoy nothing." Another reason is that I already ignore personal features of people when thinking about a movie, so I can ignore the bad features as well as the good. Perhaps if I spent more time dwelling on someone's misdeeds it would be hard for me to ignore. Kevin Spacey is getting sort of close to that, maybe, as is Louis CK. But I don't spend a ton of time dwelling on this stuff.

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TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
An short article on this topic.

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