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Guavanaut posted:Like Roald Dahl, author of beloved children's books such as James and the Giant Jewish Plot to Overcharge for Basic Goods. Also (along with Ian Fleming) really into railing Senators wives
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stev posted:Out of interest what sort of stuff has Burgon said that hasn't gone down well? I've only recently seen him speaking about the Manchester tier nonsense and he came across really well in that. He was on stage clapping when ex-MP Laura Smith called for a general strike at 2018 The World Transformed
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peanut- posted:Is it a strategic asset thing? Like I could have some sympathy for the argument that we should maintain the institutional knowledge and minimum amount of infrastructure required for an end-to-end steel making process entirely within the UK. This would make more sense if the Tories hadn't let the UK steel industry go to the wall
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goddamnedtwisto posted:We still have a steel industry, it just consists of hacking bits off the Imperial German fleet at Scapa Flow. Reminds me how it's easier to build space rockets than it is to make high-performance jet engines due to the bonkers metallurgy involved. Fighter jet engine manufacturing is one of the areas China is still far behind both NATO countries and Russia.
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Mebh posted:Decent bit from Clive Lewis. Also man, Michael walker is really starting to annoy me. Glad it's not just me. James Butler was always the best thing about Novara (apart from #ACFM)
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Paperhouse posted:Shouldn't that make rents go down? Less demand meaning lower cost in theory Rents are going down in London but rising elsewhere, the places with the fastest growth in rents are places like Middlesbrough now
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It really can't be stressed enough that despite everything Andrew is still beloved by Brenda. Will be very interesting to see if Andrew's status changes when she pops her clogs and Charles takes over.
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multijoe posted:He's a hard right ex-Labour MP too, if such a thing can be believed Michael Digger is the MP Chris Leslie is defending right before the "I'm afraaaaaaaaaaid" speech about the hard left He was also a shadow cabinet minister under Corbyn and the one who was leaking everything to the telegraph
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Necrothatcher posted:Pop quiz: without looking it up who is the leader of the Lib Dems right now? Ed "I will never apologize for the coalition" Davey
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Feb 8, 2021 12:19
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Re. PPE, it's less "general studies" and more a training course in how to be a functional part of the British state apparatus, and is accordingly gruelling to prepare future SPADs and civil servants etc for that life. People who want to get into politics or whatever but also don't want to work hard do classics.
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Feb 9, 2021 12:25
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This is a dogshit derail As a distraction, what do people think of Snyder's Pretzel Pieces, the green jalapeno flavour are possibly my favourite crisp but I wonder how they stack up to Monster Munch in thread rankings
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People were so traumatised by 2019 they aggressively projected what they wanted onto Starmer namely that he was - Competent - Electable - Vaguely Left Despite him never actually proving any of these things. Turns out he is in fact none of them. It really does feel like Kinnock and Starmer are the first as tragedy, then as farce of Labour
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Feb 12, 2021 01:16
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I really like fennel in Italian food but my girlfriend hates the taste of aniseed and won't touch it 
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namesake posted:Cruises are just so awful for the environment I was actually hopeful the pandemic would end the industry but I guess not. Sometimes I go and watch that video of the Italian Coast Guard guy yelling at he captain of the Costa Concordia
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Also mid-term leadership challenges are very unpopular with the membership and have a tendency to see the leader come out with a stronger mandate than they went in. The chicken coup really consolidated Corbyn and the left's hold on the party which had been pretty wobbly up till that point (remember Corbin's initial cabinet had people like Hilary Benn, Michael Dugher and Lucy Powell in it)
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Feb 15, 2021 15:55
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The most likely avenue for a VONC is he fact that smithers doesn't actually have a strong base of support. He managed to wangle his way to the top job by keeping his head down while being everything to everyone, but doesn't appear to have really entrenched himself with the media, membership and possibly enough MPs, which means if the locals go badly enough he might start getting challenged from the right. Though to be honest he's put enough factional right wingers in important positions that he'll be able to stave that off, but the media will mince him. Really his biggest asset is the fact there's no elections scheduled in between now and 2024 so if he can pin the blame on the left if May turns out to be a disaster he's probably home free (to give the Tories another 5 years)
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Feb 15, 2021 16:20
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Remember that Labour lost over 2 million to the Lib Dems and Greens in 2019. Sticking with the (increasing unpopular) soft brexit plan might have meant keeping some of those north and Midlands seats but would have meant losing Putney, Plymouth, Canterbury etc. It's highly unlikely Labour would have come out ahead in that transaction especially as the majority of the membership would be demoralised by that plan.
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Necrothatcher posted:oh noooo the woman I have to deal with at work today is a sov cit Tell her it's illegal to use a legal name
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His Divine Shadow posted:They might have lost those voters, but if those voters had gone to the libdems and labour had kept the red wall, wouldn't that mean more votes away from the tories at least, even if it doesn't mean labour wins. So 1. Labour would have lost a lot of "red wall" seats anyway, this has been a process that has been going on since 1997 (and before that really) 2. Labour would have lost the southern urban seats they did win to the Tories - there are plenty of seats where Labour + Lib Dem + Green is greater than the Tory vote but the Tories are the biggest party.
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Josef bugman posted:In general I think that the second option was not the best and we should have stuck with the somewhat ambiguous stance that we had in 2017 whilst also doing down the Tory version as insane and the lib-dem one as based on nothing. I don't think that that idea appealed to most Labour members though. It was also proving electorally disasterous - the 2019 Euro and Local elections were both very bad for Labour and saw Lib Dems and Greens do very well. It was pretty clear strategic ambiguity had run its course at that point and the PLP and membership (not to mention the majority of Labour voters) were simply not going to go for a harder brexit stance. Don't forget that this is the time period of all the votes as well, it was clear at this point that soft brexit was not going to pass a commons vote and the possible options were polarising to hard brexit or remain after another referendum. Also the remain turn for Labour was there before Keith ever piped up - people who say he was responsible for the turn to a second referendum are simply stating bad history.
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2017 was not 2019 when it can to brexit. In 2017 Labour campaigners in Kensington could say Labour would do a second referendum for remain while those in Sunderland could say we were going to do brexit and end free movement. It was all so up in the air anything was possible. By 2019 you had seen all the failed brexit votes and people's patience had run out with the soft brexit plan, because it was painfully obvious that even with a Labour government it was going to be a nightmare to get through parliament and crucially, was not that popular any more. Remainer Labour members were willing to go through with soft brexit while it looked like a potentially winning strategy, but by 2019 Labour were in the dumpster pollwise (for a bunch of reasons). Not only that, most leavers didn't want soft brexit by this point, so the soft brexit plan is appealing to fewer and fewer people as positions polarise. And of course on top of this, let's not forget that Labour was losing "Red Wall" seats before strategic ambiguity was dropped. The soft brexit plan didn't stop Copeland, Mansfield and Middlesbrough South flipping to the Tories - there's little reason to think that even if Labour adopts a pro-leave position in 2019 that Labour doesn't keep losing seats in the ex-industrial Midlands and North like it had been for decades prior.
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CoolCab were you in the Labour party at this time? Because even in 2017 there were a ton of people who wanted Labour to be for Remain but we're willing to campaign for Corbyn and soft brexit through gritted teeth. When it was clear the soft brexit plan wasn't working anymore they were no longer willing to do so. Starmer was reflecting a tendency that was already there (as was Thornberry and many others) not creating something out of whole cloth.
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I think it's also worth remembering that the press considered Corbyn a joke in 2017 and only went full bore in 2019 which soured a lot of people. Also people say Theresa May ran a terrible campaign but she also killed UKIP completely and got over 40% of the vote. UKIP and the Lib Dems were the real losers in that election.
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CoolCab you never answered my point about how, if Brexit is the key point to win back the "red wall", why - Labour did badly in these areas in the 2019 Euros and locals despite still having a soft brexit stance - Why did Labour lose multiple of these seats in the 2017 general election when soft brexit was the stance - Why brexit is the deciding factor here when we can see Labour vote share dropping in the North, Midlands, Wales and Scotland since 1997 with the sole exception of 2017 To my mind brexit is much more of an indication of certain voters (read: old white men in ex-industrial towns) moving away from Labour for a variety of reasons, most notably that as homeowners and pensioners their economic well-being in tied up in high asset prices which the Tories are much better at providing. Jeremy Corbyn could have offered the hardest brexit ever and while you probably would have won some people back you're fighting against tide decades in the making, of which brexit is just one part.
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A reminder that over 95% of Uber drivers are already licensed taxi drivers The best outcome of this is Uber cannot run at a profit and are replaced by a local government provided taxi app which performs exactly th same function Now that Uber has sold off its self driving car subsidiary it's only purpose for capital is disciplining Labour - if it can't do that in the UK it doesn't serve much purpose. Of course they are going to fight this tooth and nail since it's their entire reason for being but it's a good step for the UK at least.
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peanut- posted:Spoofing your location doesn't help you with the fact that if you are "logged in" but not picking up any rides Uber are gonna figure you out pretty quickly. Yeah I mean this is just a new form of fudging the numbers on your timesheet
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Boden has already reneged on ending deportations, Starmer should have just worked out he barefacedly lie here Ofc saying anything about being woke would mean possibly alienating some gammons in Scunthorpe which would never do
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My local Labour party page is just openly rinsing him now Noone is coming to his defence either, even the people who used to defend him have given up
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Feb 21, 2021 11:37
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Gonzo McFee posted:It just rules that everyone who was making waves about how any other leader would be 20 points ahead, how Corbyn keeps making unforced errors and how they would do things differently that this is what they meant. This is the strategy they would employ. And even with a compliant press, a disaster of a tory government and over 120,000 dead this is as good as they can do. "We're still dealing with the toxic legacy of the Corbyn leadership"
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Independent have floated an article saying that Labour are acknowledging the Labour Victory Bonds have gone down like a turd in the punchbowl and Anneliese Dodds is probably going to get the sack as a result Might just be rumours but apparently Miliband, Reeves, Cooper and Nandy are trying to line themselves up as replacements
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Oh god Oh god, oh no I have terrible news Jess flaps has a new book out
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*nazi Hans Moleman voice* I was attacking Israel because of antisemitism
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:They're lusting for Yvette Cooper to be leader and have been since she stood in 2015. I actually dispute this - one of the things about the Labour right is that they are actually a pretty fractious bunch, and most importantly *not actually that popular within the party*. This is why Starmer had to run as a pretend leftist to win - the actual open candidate of the right, Jess Phillips, melted down almost instantly. Turns out the right got what they wanted in the end anyway but only because Keith hoodwinked a bunch of people. The Labour right have be advantage of having a strong powerbase in he party via HQ staffers and councillors, and now several top positions like General Secretary. The problem however I that the wider membership and the public *loving hate them* which is why they go down like a wet fart whenever they put themselve publicly forward. The only way they can get ahead is by transparently lying about what they're about, which someone like Yvette Cooper, as a committed Brownite, would never do I think. I think Rachel Reeves Vs Lisa Nandy is the upcoming leadership struggle within the party (with someone from the left opposing them) with Rachel Reeves continuing down the Miliband/Starmer style low risk path and Nandy going more full bore Blue Labour, more economically radical but also more openly racist.
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Bobstar posted:Are pitas a thing one can make from scratch? I've been making bagels every week, because the only thing you can buy here is, as Michael Rosen puts it, "rolls with holes" Yup sure are. Definitely a knack to it, basically a standard dough rolled very thin and cooked on a plate/pan or in the oven at high heat which forms a pocket of steam and giving them the "puffed" appearance.
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Re. Blue Labour the original premise was basically "social democracy, but for white people". This made a lot more sense when David Cameron's brand of liberal pro-business conservativism was in power, its a harder sell when Boris, Rishi and Priti are throwing cash around and openly talking about locking up brown people. Should be pointed out that the fundamental problem any Starmer/Dodds/Reeves style of Labour party is that the 2 most popular positions among both Labour voters in ex-industrial towns and cities are: - Taxing the rich - Radical economic change The fact that Starmer doesn't want to do either should tell you how good his strategy is.
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Communist Thoughts posted:TBF the labour left are also loathed by the public The difference is that a lot of left policies are actually popular - the Labour left has the problem at the minute that the public often say they like socialist things but dislike socialists. The Labour right have the triple problem that: - people dislike them personally - people don't like their policies - people remember when they were in government and didn't like that either
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Darth Walrus posted:It genuinely wasn't. The Nazis were openly and explicitly pro-capitalist from day one, and the Strasserites (who honestly weren't that socialist either) were always on the fringe. Mass privatisation, persecution of trade unions, and cuts to welfare were always the order of the day. Hitler's main sales pitch to businesses after becoming chancellor was that democracy was incompatible with capitalism, and therefore should be done away with. The socialism of Blue Labour is often overstated as well, though a common theme of the types of voters that like Blue Labour type stuff is that they are very unhappy with the economic status quo and want a change, the same as young urban lefties, which is why it's such a bungle that Keith is not going down this path as it's a clear way to unite Labour's base (the answer is that Labour are currently capital's B team)
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The real reason you shouldn't play 5e is because it's not very good If you want a tactical dungeon crawler play 4e, Strike! or Lancer If you want a story play literally anything else
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Camrath posted:More tactical and balanced than 3.5 without feeling like a bad skirmish game where everyone is basically the same like 4. This is one of those takes that I hear frequently and makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I literally don't know how you can play 4e and think all the classes play the same, especially when I think that's much more true of 5e (and especially 3.5) I think it's just one of those intractable things that comes down to the different things people want out of an RPG.
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Guavanaut posted:Those orphan burgers sound interesting, what's the carbon footprint compared to industrially farmed cattle? Flying them in from Little St James is pretty steep to be hones but we all get to have a treat now and again
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