Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


this is also happening on May 19

quote:

The Commemoration of Atatürk, Youth and Sports Day[1] (Turkish: Atatürk'ü Anma, Gençlik ve Spor Bayramı), is an annual Turkish national holiday celebrated on May 19 to commemorate Mustafa Kemal's landing at Samsun on May 19, 1919, which is regarded as the beginning of the Turkish War of Independence in the official historiography.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

i was looking for a pic based on the above conversation and found a different one :catstare:

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


https://twitter.com/ahmadinejad1956/status/1405232180981338114

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Slavvy posted:

Hitler and associates: a thread

Political figures and events thread

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Yo it's in vogue to hate Antony Beevor, and I understand why, but I want to say that, at least in Stalingrad, he is not light on the German army. He categorically rejects the idea that the German army did the fighting and others, like the SS, did all the war crimes, which is the absolute underpinning of the "clean Wehrmacht" mythology.

thanks for reporting. I just did another google images search for Antony Beevor and this is still up lol

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Trabisnikof posted:

Anyone have any resources about the Bandung Conference?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandung_Conference

I'd like to learn more about it.

The Jakarta Method mentions it 41 times. there’s a lively discussion thread for the book here.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

god bless America :patriot:

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


So thankful this horror does not happen any longer.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Slavvy posted:

They fielded the world's first mass produced, actually useful smokeless powder rifle

They fielded the world's first light machine gun going by tactical definition

also the flintlock and I suppose the bayonet

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Falukorv posted:

not strictly military but the first use of a car as a robbery getaway vehicle was French

they’re always looking for a quick way to retreat

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


lol that it’s black :black101:

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I've started reading a book about the start of the American Revolution. It's only the prologue and things are already not looking good.

:barf:

how was the smell situation below deck? also was there more pegging and jointing, dovetailing and mortising, emitting creaks, groans, and squeals..

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

hey folks, I’m interested in reading about gas attacks in warfare, especially chlorine and related substances like phosgene. any good books? Frosted Flake

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

“Blundering on the Brink”: Cuban Missile Crisis Documents from the Central Archive of the Russian Ministry of Defense


www.wilsoncenter.org posted:

A collection of documents from the Central Archive of the Russian Ministry of Defense (TsAMO), available in English for the first time on the Wilson Center Digital Archive, offers fascinating new details of the Cuban Missile Crisis. 

The collection consists of over 30 formerly top-secret documents from the spring, summer, and fall of 1962. Joining an already large body of archival records on the Cuban Missile Crisis (over 600 documents, as of writing), these new sources provide exceptional insights into Soviet military planning during the secret “Anadyr” operation (the deployment of Soviet ballistic missiles and troops to Cuba), including information regarding the personal conduct of Soviet troops stationed in Cuba, instructions for interactions with foreign vessels, and the composition of troops.

The documents were declassified by the Russian Ministry of Defense in May 2022, a somewhat surprising decision given Russia’s ongoing war in Ukraine and the deteriorating political situation within Russia.

Many of the documents have already been put to good historical use by Cold War scholars. Sergey Radchenko and Vladislav Zubok relied on these documents for a recent article in Foreign Affairs titled “Blundering on the Brink: The Secret and Untold History of the Cuban Missile Crisis.” Radchenko and Zubok make clear that the Soviet intervention in Cuba was not the meticulous plan that Khrushchev made it out to be, but rather “a remarkably poorly thought-through gamble whose success depended on improbably good luck.” 

The new materials on the Wilson Center Digital Archive gives credence to Radchenko and Zubok’s claim, as evidence of Soviet ineptness abounds throughout the collection.

The lack of even modest expertise on Cuba among the Soviet military leadership stands out as a flagrant example of Soviet failings. Documents from the collection reveal that Soviet troops arrived in Cuba severely underprepared, apparently not realizing that the island’s tropical climate would wreak havoc on their weapons and equipment. Fuse failures, excessive corrosion, overconsumption of oil, and generator blackouts were just some of the complaints made by troops on the ground. Recommendations as to how to counter the effects of a warm climate and requests for new equipment were made throughout the spring and summer of 1962, but no action was taken by Moscow until August.

Other findings from the collection are probably less significant when it comes to analyzing the USSR’s strategic blunders, but still offer interesting details into the “Anadyr” operation. One memorable report describes the cigarette rations for secretly deployed Soviet troops – 25 a day – and the fact that servicemen were prohibited from visiting any place of entertainment in Cuba or taking walks for pleasure. All aspects of the mission, no matter how big or small, were “performed in strict secrecy under the pretense of the cover stories.”

Visits to cultural and education institutions, such as theatres and museums, were, on the other hand, “limitedly” permitted, as long as all Soviet troops proved themselves to be “models of Soviet socialist ideology” when interacting with Cuban citizens.

The new documents also include a report submitted to Khrushchev by R. Malinovsky on the October 27 shootdown of a U-2 aircraft piloted by American pilot Rudolf Anderson; reports on other close-calls between US and Soviet ships and aircraft; and the rescinding of the “increased combat readiness” status for the Soviet fleet following the resolution of the crisis.

In “Blundering on the Brink,” Radchenko and Zubok are careful to highlight the present-day importance of these Soviet-era documents. Drawing parallels between the hubris that drove the Cuban Missile Crisis and that hubris is driving Russia’s war in Ukraine today, Radchenko and Zubok note that the documents offer potential lessons to keep us safe during a time of pronounced nuclear saber-rattling. Realizing that he was without a winning hand, Khrushchev walked back from the brink, capitulated, and withdrew Soviet missiles from Cuba. It remains to be seen if Putin will also be able to know when enough is enough in Ukraine; if he will then have the capacity to stand down is another question entirely.

Click here to view new documents on the Cuban Missile Crisis from the Central Archive of the Russian Ministry of Defense (TsAMO)

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Fat Mike ftw

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Frosted Flake posted:

I didn't know where to post this account of the Belsen trials. I don't know what to make of people like this:

"(Belsen female SS guard) Irma Greese, a simple but fanatical Nazi who had joined the Party to spite her left-wing father, felt victimized by her work in the camps as well:

just a simple country Nazi...

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/LandsknechtPike/status/1729883179702788346

riverine warfare sounds cool but it's also weirdly absent in popular media except for niche games

hungary has a legit reason for an admiralty and that reason is the danube river

longest tweet ever?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

A Buttery Pastry posted:

truly showing what people are capable of if they don't let themselves held back by their circumstances

Helen Keller learned to write so she could write "in favor of refusing life-saving medical procedures to infants with severe mental impairments or physical deformities, saying that their lives were not worthwhile and they would likely become criminals"

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

mycomancy posted:

I dunno if this is a joke or not, but if not please cite your source.

https://www.disabilitymuseum.org/dhm/lib/detail.html?id=3209

quote:

IR: Much of the discussion aroused by Dr. Haiselden when he permitted the Bollinger baby to die centers around a belief in the sacredness of life. If many of those that object to the physician's course would take the trouble to analyze their idea of "life," I think they would find that it means just to breathe. Surely they must admit that such an existence is not worth while. It is the possibilities of happiness, intelligence and power that give life its sanctity, and they are absent in the case of a poor, misshapen, paralyzed, unthinking creature. I think there are many more clear cases of such hopeless death-in-life than the critics of Dr. Haiselden realize. The toleration of such anomalies tends to lessen the sacredness in which normal life is held.

There is one objection, however, to this weeding of the human garden that shows a sincere love of true life. It is the fear that we cannot trust any mortal with so responsible and delicate a task. Yet have not mortals for long ages been entrusted with the decision of questions just as momentous and far-reaching; with kingship, with the education of the race, with feeding, clothing, sheltering and employing their fellowmen? In the jury of the criminal court we have an institution that is called upon to make just such decisions as Dr. Haiselden made, to decide whether a man is fit to associate with his fellows, whether he is fit to live.

It seems to me that the simplest, wisest thing to do would be to submit cases like that of the malformed idiot baby to a jury of expert physicians. An ordinary jury decides matters of life and death on the evidence of untrained and often prejudiced observers. Their own verdict is not based on a knowledge of criminology, and they are often swayed by obscure prejudices or the eloquence of a prosecutor. Even if the accused before them is guilty, there is often no way of knowing that he would commit new crimes, that he would not become a useful and productive member of society. A mental defective, on the other hand, is almost sure to be a potential criminal. The evidence before a jury of physicians considering the case of an idiot would be exact and scientific. Their findings would be free from the prejudice and inaccuracy of untrained observation. They would act only in cases of true idiocy, where there could be no hope of mental development.

It is true, the physicians' court might be liable to abuse like other courts. The powerful of the earth might use it to decide cases to suit themselves. But if the evidence were presented openly and the decisions made public before the death of the child, there would be little danger of mistakes or abuses. Anyone interested in the case who did not believe the child ought to die might be permitted to provide for its care and maintenance. It would be humanly impossible to give absolute guarantees for every baby worth saving, but a similar condition prevails throughout our lives. Conservatives ask too much perfection of these new methods and institutions, although they know how far the old ones have fallen short of what they were expected to accomplish. We can only wait and hope for better results as the average of human intelligence, trustworthiness and justice arises. Meanwhile we must decide between a fine humanity like Dr. Haiselden's and a cowardly sentimentalism.

HELEN KELLER.
Wrentham, Mass.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

gradenko_2000 posted:

"Muscular Christianity: The Relationship Between Men and Faith", Brett and Kate McKay

Historian Clifford Putler defines Muscular Christianity “as a Christian commitment to health and manliness,

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Is Stalin the closest any human came to actually being the cultural conception of Santa? Setting aside that Santa was originally Saint Nicholas. Factories above the Arctic Circle, sees you when you're sleeping, knows when you're awake, people constantly writing him letters begging for things,




mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 01:27 on Dec 18, 2023

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

may be interesting to some folx
Global Press Archive CRL Alliance Launches Open Access Liberian

www.crl.edu posted:

East View Information Services and the Center for Research Libraries (CRL) have launched the Daily Observer Digital Archive (DODA), the eighth Open Access collection produced under the Global Press Archive (GPA) CRL Alliance.

Comprising more than 35,000 pages, DODA is a comprehensive archive of the English-language Daily Observer, Liberia’s best-known independent national newspaper. Founded in 1981, the Daily Observer is notable for its coverage of the modern history of Liberia, from the Liberian Civil War through its current phase of development.
DODA joins seven other Open Access collections produced under the GPA CRL Alliance:

El Mundo Digital Archive
Imperial Russian Newspapers
Independent and Revolutionary Mexican Newspapers
Late Qing and Republican-Era Chinese Newspapers
Middle Eastern and North African Newspapers
South Asian Newspapers
Southeast Asian Newspapers

DODA will be followed by the release of a collection of Soviet-era Ukrainian newspapers in late December.

Since 2019, East View and the Center for Research Libraries have partnered in the GPA/CRL Alliance to accelerate the mission of the Global Press Archive. Through the Alliance, CRL defines and sponsors the creation of thematic and single-title collections on the GPA platform. The continuation of this highly successful academic-commercial partnership is a testament to CRL and East View’s shared values of diversity, equity, and inclusion, and reinforces the commitment to extend access to global newspaper collections to the widest possible audience.

Learn more about the East View Global Press Archive and the CRL Alliance at https://www.eastview.com/GPA

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/BaytAlFann/status/1744661833342947674

just a short thread on coffee and its history

I appreciate the formatting and effort. health to your hands.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


to support small business, duh.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

A Buttery Pastry posted:

American-style:
Fork in left, knife in right, cut off a piece of food for consumption
Lay down knife to indicate that you're a civilized person not about to attack other dinner guests
Transfer fork to your right, and stab the food before showing it in your face
Transfer fork to your left, and pick up the knife again for more cutting

European-style:
Fork in left, knife in right, cut off a piece of food for consumption
Stab the food and put it in your mouth/push the food onto the fork and shovel it into your mouth

Some American writers pretend Europeans place the tines down when pushing food onto the fork, but that's fake. I mean, I guess some upper-class freaks might be doing that, but that's hardly fair to lay on an entire continent.

Americans are monsters. wtf

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

lol... hehe
https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7339524005071736110

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


that guy needs the power to charge his fuckin phone

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

gradenko_2000 posted:

I just got back from vacation, and one of the places I went to was this place called Onuk Island, past the very tip of Palawan, just about closer to Sabah in Malaysia than the Philippine mainland





as I got off the boat and headed inland, it struck me that this was the sort of thing that got mentioned in Shattered Sword: that even if the Imperial Japanese Navy, by some turn of events, managed to beat back the USN carriers and attempt a ground invasion of Midway, it would have gone very poorly for them, because the IJN landing force would have to debark well short of the island itself. It'd be some 300 meters of wading through shin-high water as you slog across a sandbar while .50 cal MGs and light tanks planted on the base would be blasting away the whole time. I was barely carrying anything myself and it was a struggle - trying to do this fully clothed, with a full pack, would have been arduous. Trying to do this while under fire, without cover, would have been murderous.

I guess it's one thing to read about it in a book, and quite another to physically experience even just a small part of the point trying to be conveyed.

that's beautiful man. the beach seems cool too

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

a taste of paradise... but also a taste of hell

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

pow wow chow...

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Some Guy TT posted:

im watching the sympathizer and i have the most weirdly specific question imaginable reference is made to ivy league educated people always claiming to be part black was this ever actually a thing or at least was it a thing in vietnam

it kind of sounds like the author was just applying the more typical "my great great grandmother was a native american" family mythology bullshit to other races and completely misunderstanding why white people do that but im willing to humor the idea that american officers in vietnam pretended to be part black for some other unrelated weird reason

it would be mildly interesting to look up the novel and see if the author does it there or if it's added in.

iirc the guy shows a general in the show is known as "the crapulent major" in the book.


e: I watched half of the first episode last night. it seemed pretty decent and I intend to continue. I did read the book so I am interested to see how they will put it on the screen.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

I had to explain the difference between North Korea and North Vietnam to an American yesterday and it lowkey blew my mind

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

the only r. pipes I read was Russia under the old regime. I remember liking it but mostly read the first half. what else did he write?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Extremely hosed up behavior to put fiction in a novel.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Greeks stole dolma from Turks who conquered it from the Japanese original, sushi

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

i say swears online posted:

have some sattva, friend

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

any hobsbawm worth reading? i've have maybe 5 of them on my computer for 10+ years but never got around.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

pascha tonight... shoutout to the yiayas and babushki who stand and sing through the whole thing while everyone else is dying to sit down and look at phone

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply