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The follow-up to Underdogs is also probably the Matthew Good Band's single most iconic... it is a true titan of 90s Canadian alt-rock... not just in Vancouver, British Columbia, but across the country. BYOB, lemme introduce you to Beautiful Midnight:Wikipedia posted:Beautiful Midnight is the third album released by the Matthew Good Band. It is the band's most commercially successful album. The album won the award for "Best Rock Album" at the 2000 Juno Awards.[4] As you can see from the Wikiblurb, this is also the album where Good's trademark curmudgeonly rear end in a top hat of Canadian rock attitude really started to come out. He started his career as a musician writing angry politically charged folk music and never quite lost that aspect of himself. He was also living with undiagnosed bipolar disorder at the time and was constantly going in and out of manic states... Good hardly ate. He didn't drink, but he chainsmoked like crazy and rarely slept. It's around this time that the band started printed and selling the iconic "I hear Matt Good is a real rear end in a top hat" shirts: Anyways, track listing below... Beautiful Midnight is technically a concept album in that each song is supposed to represent a particular time of night. I've added the "times" in parentheses for each track:
for non-Canada goons, I will find alternate video links in another post... hold tight! also gotta run but i have more fun facts about this album i will post shortly... putting on my playlist, woooo
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# ? Feb 19, 2021 17:53 |
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# ? May 4, 2024 17:11 |
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just getting to this thread now. it's good! thanks op and other contributors. I must admit, however, this: Sally posted:the 25th best-selling Canadian artist between 1996-2016 made me chuckle it's not that it's unimpressive, but it comes across as such faint praise also thank you luvcow for posting the community bit, and I'm glad the weakerthans stuff has been posted, I feel like I've heard a couple of their tracks in passing but never really paid attention to them (whereas so far I don't recognize anything at all from the mgb)
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# ? Feb 19, 2021 19:47 |
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haha, i know, but it's still impressive when considered against more well-known Canadian artists like Celine Dion and Leonard Cohen. I mean, Matthew Good/MGB have outsold Rush, Drake, The Guess Who, and BTO according to the Canada 150: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7849410/canada-150-celine-dion-shania-twain-nielsen-charts
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# ? Feb 20, 2021 05:49 |
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More fun facts about Beautiful Midnight... an article from 2001 detailing its release in the USA, some background on Good's status as an rear end in a top hat, his refusal to support industry award ceremonies, and the decision to cut a bunch of tracks from Beautiful Midnight to instead put on singles from Underdogs:quote:
The US tracklist for Beautiful Midnight is as follows:
Also, "Hello Time Bomb", "Strange Days", "Deep 6ix", "Load Me Up", and "Everything Is Automatic" were all remixed by this dude named Chris Lord-Alge. Also also, that plastic soldier website comes through as a repository for Matthew Good videos... Hello Time Bomb video: http://mattgood.plastic-soldier.com/video-hellotimebomb.php Load Me Up: http://mattgood.plastic-soldier.com/video-loadmeup.php, though unfortunately it doesn't have the video with just the music... that said, it has the videos with commentary. One voice is Matthew Good but I have no idea who the other is--the director I guess? Interesting fun facts, though. The kids in the video came from Dave Genn's former school. Interestingly, I didn't know Much Music sometimes cut-off the horror knife shot at the end of the vid. Huh. The Future Is X-Rated: http://mattgood.plastic-soldier.com/video-thefutureisxrated.php Also also also... Geoff Lloyd left the band at this point. Not sure why... I'll have to dig around. Rich Priske joined as the new bassist and I am also a big fan of his work.
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# ? Feb 20, 2021 06:06 |
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I really liked Matthew Good Band around when Hello Time Bomb was being played on Muchmusic a lot and they're a great band and I think they hold up Thanks |
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I've posted about him before but here is an effortpost about an extremely slept on Canadian artist named Gregory Pepper from the very unassuming city of Guelph, Ontario. I first learned about Gregory Pepper because he was in a group with hip hop producer Factor Chandelier from Saskatoon, SK. Their group was called Common Grackle. I don't know if it's true, but I've heard that the band name was inspired from a sentence in an Audubon field guide. Audubon posted:Common Grackles often nest in small colonies, and several males may perch in adjacent treetops to sing their creaking, grating songs. The pairing of indie rock and hip hop production meant that they were originally trying for something Postal Service inspired, but I think they came up with something incredibly different. In 2010, they released The Great Depression on Fake Four and I think most people wouldn't immediately think hip hop upon listening, but its really well buried in the whole structure of percussion and cadence of each song. I think Pepper's lyricism is deeply cynical and trite and gross in a very likeable way. Here is a link to the whole bandcamp album: https://fakefour.bandcamp.com/album/the-great-depression But more specifically, here are some of my favourites from the Great Depression: Down With the Ship - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0OU-luyTYM The Great Depression (ft. Ceschi) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQfviud1GYk Thank God It's Monday (ft. Kool Keith) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBuNaEtk44I and incredibly BYOB song At the Grindcore Show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Hh7Benoo8 On tour, Common Grackle traveled with a full tour band (without Factor) and became notorious for playing songs from the Great Depression in wholly new arrangements, usually stylized into some completely different genre. For example, here's the Great Depression (above) played live in a cowboy/surf western rock style before album actually dropped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZEed_X-s2s After supporting touring for the album release, Gregory Pepper re-recorded all of the tracks from the Great Depression following a western style rock with a full band and released it in 2011, as The Great Repression. https://gregorypepper.bandcamp.com/album/the-great-repression Accordingly, here are same songs from the first album in their second styles: Down with the Ship - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv2bBx3p5eg The Great Depression - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sskzEuy1W_I Thank God It's Monday - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqEJkwxtpOg At the Grindcore Show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ISD6pkm_fo As far as I can tell, Common Grackle is long gone nowadays. They did release a single teaser song "Return of the Grack" in 2018 that was never followed up that is very fun and cycles through genres wonderfully and has catching lines like "Some changes haven't been saved, would you like to close anyway?". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrqVI_rcwFI Since Common Grackle, Gregory Pepper did a bunch of podcasting and writing orphaned songs to ultimately start releasing newer solo work as Gregory Pepper and his Problems, a name I think he has admitted to kind of regretting. He has released a ton of EPs and a self-titled full length, but I wanna jump right to his most recent release because I think it is really, really good and completely slept on, I Know Why you Cry, released on Feb. 14, 2020, by Fake Four. https://gregorypepper.bandcamp.com/album/i-know-now-why-you-cry Really cleanly produced and catchy tunes featuring some strings over really crude and funny and sad lyrics, it's a wonderful album from front to back. But, here are a personal couple select picks: Good Call - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qjk_m4ybxM I've Got a Bottle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TP8D9CJ1Sc Art Collector / Bored of the View - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR3QtMWOjgY and another very yob song Sublime Sun Tattoo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfeXQ3Unh-o Pepper is also a really fun and talented visual artist and, in conclusion, is good and cool. Thank u.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 15:58 |
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something interesting came out of guelph?????
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 17:06 |
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there’s actually two guelph artists I really like but the other is not alt rock and so I will have to save it for a future thread
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 17:53 |
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op have you heard of mother mother? i also like billy talent and vincent black shadow but irc they dont make new stuff anymore. |
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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo i really really hate mother mother there songs are 1) not something i enjoy, and 2) really really really good at getting stuck in my head if they were just songs i didn't like i probably wouldn't care! but since they're so good at hooking into my brain and living there i end up dwelling on their songs, and how much i don't like them, and how i can't stop them from playing in my brain
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# ? Mar 1, 2021 13:28 |
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biosterous posted:noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo i really really hate mother mother just give in and love them. Although I do hate when i get their songs stuck in my head. |
# ? Mar 2, 2021 01:08 |
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I used to listen to mother mother a bunch but i can't actually remember any of their songs off the top of my head and maybe i should be grateful for that
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# ? Mar 2, 2021 03:58 |
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i don't like livin' in a dirty town 'cause a dirty town brings me down! |
# ? Mar 2, 2021 04:03 |
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nut posted:I used to listen to mother mother a bunch but i can't actually remember any of their songs off the top of my head and maybe i should be grateful for that hayloft, infintesimal, lets fall in love, the stand, verbatim are all some of my favorites i have them in a play list. i also like emily hanes and the soft skeleton and so of course i like metric . those are bands though and not mother mother songs snergle fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Mar 2, 2021 |
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yeah metric is real good yo
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# ? Mar 2, 2021 05:24 |
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hey team, so i am not purposely ignoring this thread. abuse allegations have surfaced surrounding Good credible enough that his label dropped him. i'm currently pondering how i want to go forward. i still want to listen to and talk about Canadian alt-rock and was thinking of switching to another band (like The Weakerthans or Mother Mother) after going through MGB's discography, but now I am questioning that. maybe I'll wrap up the MGB stuff and not bother with Good's solo stuff? I dunno. I need a break from MGB, though. I'll post my final verdict on Beautiful Midnight tonight though... maybe Audio of Being... I did start listening to that a lot. having some complex thoughts about Good :/
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# ? Mar 6, 2021 20:27 |
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Matthew Bad. This is probably a highly unpopular opinion, but it is possible, and in a lot of cases necessary, to divorce the human from the music. Everyone loves a cult of personality and sometimes that personality is unbelievably toxic, but the person isn't the music. Tell me Michael Jackson's music suddenly sucked once everyone knew for sure he was a pedo. You don't have to like the person to like the music. |
# ? Mar 6, 2021 20:38 |
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Man, just found this thread and was excited to post... I have so many early B-side recordings (like the casettes), concert trivia, etc. Hadn’t heard about this until now. This thread has been a great read. If you decide to continue with MG, he’s one of the few artists I’ve really followed over decades since I also grew up with the music. I’d feel fine posting about stuff that’s free or that I already own. Totally understand if you want to switch to different groups though, I’m here for Mother Mother and Metric just the same. |
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Finger Prince posted:Matthew Bad. I tend to feel the same. I mean, so many famous people are assholes in some shape or form that it's kind of hard to go through life NOT liking something by someone who is vile. Michael Jackson is a prime example, as you stay. I still like the music he made. And beyond that, I still like Kanye West's music and Mel Gibson's films and think the Harry Potter books are pretty neat. Matthew Good is not his music. And Matthew Good Band was more than just Matthew Good. kaom posted:Man, just found this thread and was excited to post... I have so many early B-side recordings (like the casettes), concert trivia, etc. Hadnt heard about this until now. I'm gonna keep goin' and wrap up MGB's discography at the very least.
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# ? Mar 9, 2021 06:21 |
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nut, Common Grackle is really good. I've only been listening to The Great Depression so far, but it's a really loving rock solid album. Immediately likeable and catchy! The title track and Big Marquee are my faves so far, but Thank God It's Monday also rules. this is totally my poo poo
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# ? Mar 9, 2021 06:26 |
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I think Sam Roberts inherited Matt Good's schtick of underappreciated Canadian rocker with an eponymous band. |
# ? Mar 9, 2021 07:58 |
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matthew good: banned
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# ? Mar 9, 2021 15:11 |
hot cocoa on the couch posted:op just remember when it's getting hard to listen to just push and push and push 'til it hurts this idk if this counts but any excuse to post hosed up songs im obsessed with such as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdUSPvbkc7o all their zodiac songs are sick. year of the snake, rat and dragon especially ---------------- |
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# ? Mar 9, 2021 21:25 |
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Sally posted:nut, Common Grackle is really good. I've only been listening to The Great Depression so far, but it's a really loving rock solid album. Immediately likeable and catchy! The title track and Big Marquee are my faves so far, but Thank God It's Monday also rules. I am so glad!
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# ? Mar 9, 2021 21:40 |
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Re-impressions of Beautiful Midnight...
But drat. This is a really good loving album. Blasting it again has been gratifying. ***Sally Note: I always thought the line went: "when the world is screaming/I miss new wave/and real intense"... but as I double-check the lyrics for this post I am shocked to discover he is actually saying "real intent", so that's something new...
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 08:54 |
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this post also took a long tiem to get up because i just kept writing and writing about it and was trying not to gush too much in parts so i kept cutting stuff... ah well, it's out now. whew!kaom posted:Man, just found this thread and was excited to post... I have so many early B-side recordings (like the casettes), concert trivia, etc. Hadn’t heard about this until now. also, if you want to post about a lot of the early cassette stuff, I would be super pumped. I actually know very little about it... aside from that it exists, that he once played as The Rodchester Kings and that there's a bootleg collection of it floating around called History Teacher. Aside from that, I never really listened to it. I grabbed a rip of the bootleg once years ago and bounced off it hard because I wanted something more like Beautiful Midnight or Audio of Being and never really have it another chance.
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# ? Mar 12, 2021 08:56 |
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catching up... my original love for Beautiful Midnight remains the same. some hills and valleys, but the highs are extremely high and the lows are actually pretty solid. describing it just by how much I'd like it, I'd give the album's tracks a review that goes like this: Brilliant, Good, Brilliant, Really Good, Really Good, Really Good, Brilliant, Okay, Okay, Okay, Brilliant, Okay, Brilliant, Good. And that's pretty darn good. So a full four long exposure photos of cars driving out of for for Beautiful Midnight:
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# ? May 4, 2024 17:11 |
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Despite Good being outed as being a bigger rear end in a top hat than we all previously thought, I am still pretty stoked to relisten to and talk about this album. As much as I loved Beautiful Midnight, I was a far bigger fan of Audio of Being. It was a far more formative album as far as musical tastes were, and in my opinion, it's the best thing the Matthew Good Band put out. Wikipedia posted:The Audio Of Being is the fourth and final album by the Canadian rock group Matthew Good Band, released in 2001. It included two singles: "Carmelina" and "Anti-Pop". The album sold 73,000 units in Canada by March 2003 and was certified Gold the same month. As you can guess from the Wiki blurb, this was not a fun album for the band and is indeed the project that ultimately broke them up. As much as Good was annoyed that other band members were trying to add their own suggestions (and having played in bands, I totally get the idea of a vision being hosed with), I think he's dead loving wrong for being so down on this album for much of his career. As much as freeing himself and going solo paid off (I think his first solo album is probably his best work), the album where the best of the band was more involved is also probably their best creative work. So I dunno. Good was also going through some pretty wild manic phases by this point though. One interview I recall he talked about how he basically didn't eat or sleep during the process, he just smoked and drank coffee until it was done. Also the studio interference sounds annoying as hell, but art from adversity, right? At least these are all my pre-established opinions going into it. I've listened to this album a metric gently caress ton so I don't suspect my opinions will change too much, but it's beena couple of years since I've listened to it, so I'm fully prepared to get nostalgic:
(as an aside, I own the grey album. It's the one that says "In The" on the spine.)
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