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president tim kaine lol i mean can you even imagine
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Excelzior posted:I was gonna shitpost about how "the supreme court hasnt been legitimate since Marbury v Madison”
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Al! posted:ban teaching about black history, speech that promotes racial disharmony, communism, bad morals etc. welcome back to the 50s folks Assuming this isn't a SYQ, lol at the idea of a ban of "black history", which would require some sort of legal definition, ditto "racial disharmony" - in the US of all places. Banning immorality requires the court to take a position on morality, which is also pretty funny and unenforceable, especially in contemporary America. It's just very funny to think that those are things established from the top down by the judicial branch, it's a very legalistic and institutional (liberal) view of society and culture.
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Al! posted:supreme court's going to okay actual laws that ban speech that promotes racial disharmony, communism, bad morals etc. welcome back to the 50s folks
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As someone who spent time in the military this kinda thought always makes me laugh. The US military is made up of a poo poo ton of the rural rednecks they all hate and talk down to so much.
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The Pussy Boss posted:love when people talk about "rural" people like they're an alien species
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:yes, but by putting on a uniform those rednecks instantly transform into loyal servants of the liberal elite. lol the ironclad believe in institutions without any understanding of how they work, particularly any human element, is p funny also. They really think you punch in legal authority, or even technicalities, and get the outcome you want automatically. Like their idea to have electors defect or to take Trump off the ballet or any of these other ploys to "save democracy", which they think would produce inarguable result by fiat rather than either fizzling out and being ignored, or kicking off a conflict they would lose. The US capital police ignored orders on Jan 6. Not as obviously as Canadian police did during the trucker thing, but still. This should be a sign for them.
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Al! posted:president tim kaine lol i mean can you even imagine ¡vaya con díos!
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Tars Tarkas posted:Been this way forever, despite countless evidence that you can reach those people (heck, Obama did in 2008! and then dismantled the whole apparatus lol) and there are many times more of them than mythical centrists or moderate republicans. Now the wagons have been circled to the point where when candidates bring in people who don't normally vote in primaries everyone in the establishment gets mad and racist and mad. And racist. Even if we're just talking pure bloodless electoral strategy, if you grab any thread and pull it you have to come to the conclusion that Democrats just aren't an effective organization. I guess people who aren't willing to do that have to get bound up in this crackpot realism where we're fighting for the votes of moderate Republicans in the DC suburbs, and when that fight's lost...just bemoan that the world's going to hell because everyone is stupid?
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Tars Tarkas posted:Been this way forever, despite countless evidence that you can reach those people (heck, Obama did in 2008! and then dismantled the whole apparatus lol) and there are many times more of them than mythical centrists or moderate republicans. Now the wagons have been circled to the point where when candidates bring in people who don't normally vote in primaries everyone in the establishment gets mad and racist and mad. And racist. 2008  : my work here is done 
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HashtagGirlboss posted:I bet as a thought experiment if you described the Supreme Court to people using Muslim terms instead of English terms they’d recoil in horror, even if you didn’t change a single fact, just swap out judge for qadi and poo poo really makes you think
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They're not stupid, they have kept the left out of power, killed any active left movement after Bernie, coopted AOC, secured ironclad sinecures for the entire party elite, and based on Pelosi's trades, secured their individual fortunes beyond anyone's wildest dreams. They've very clever when going about what's absolutely essential to them. None of those things are threatened by the Republicans holding power, as long as safe seats remain safe, and hell they can fundraise more with Trump in office than Biden. The rank and file democrat supporters are stupid, if they believe the party has political goals beyond those that are indispensable, I'll grant you that, but as a patronage network to enrich part of the American ruling class, it's very effective. e: I mean, democrats are loving stupid, that's the point of this thread, but there's a baseline where their wiles kick in, and that's protecting the actual power structure and party discipline. Obama making a few phone calls and having everyone drop out to stop the Bernie campaign, was smart. Everything Obama did that was notionally part of a political project, pretty stupid.
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Willa Rogers posted:actually, salon went downhill after firing glenn for writing about rotating villains & such during the obamarama years. all the salons and AMERICAblogs and DailyKos' and all those "left" bloggers of that era showed their asses when obama got elected and they suddenly didn't care about a whole lot of things and started to find other things very cool and good after all. I think atrios is the only one who left the obama era with their credibility intact.
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The Pussy Boss posted:love when people talk about "rural" people like they're an alien species yeah, it's all "anthropological studies in dumb & racist humans, unlike us higher beings"
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Too late, heh. you're under my protection here, fwiw (prolly not a lot)
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Willa Rogers posted:lmao what a wise latina
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1glitch0 posted:all the salons and AMERICAblogs and DailyKos' and all those "left" bloggers of that era showed their asses when obama got elected and they suddenly didn't care about a whole lot of things and started to find other things very cool and good after all. yah, and a bunch ended up being paid shills for democrats thereafter, or like emptywheel turned into muellers-she-wrote. naked capitalism stayed p. good, imo, especially on finance & healthcare, but I always forget to go there these day & their engagement has really dropped.
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:and hell they can fundraise more with Trump in office than Biden. This is the real X factor that points to a lot of the most recent Dem suckage, not that they weren't awful before of course, but the ones who are in safe seats only see $$$ signs when people start talking about Trump winning again. "Ooh, we can just take all the fundraising emails from 2016-2020 and reword them slightly and then  !"
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:They're not stupid, they have kept the left out of power, killed any active left movement after Bernie, coopted AOC, secured ironclad sinecures for the entire party elite, and based on Pelosi's trades, secured their individual fortunes beyond anyone's wildest dreams.
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But why would they prefer to win this election over losing it?
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lol This is like Michael Richards doing that Chris Rock bit and trying to say he's not saying slurs anymore God I'm so old
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Nichael posted:one of the funniest bits of law school is class textbooks that do a scholarly analysis of the rationale of Holy poo poo can't imagine. Are they really bothering with creating a framework other than conservative politics ftw?
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:But why would they prefer to win this election over losing it? stumblebum posted:while the democratic party's actual purpose is not to win elections, and any given election is entirely expendable for the sake of throwing for cash, the increasingly blatant acts of electoral self-sabotage will still produce increasingly prominent heightening of the contradictions. these contradictions are likely not going to express themselves through any kind of truly threatening mass movement in the next couplefew decades, but it can still cause serious damage to the stability of the u.s. state, which does genuinely rely on mass electoralism to function ("mass electoralism" not being equivalent to "democracy" in any meaningful way) I'll venture to say that at this point, it might be better for them to lose the White House and flog #Resistance to raise money for state elections. They could even spend some of that money to do things that actually win elections instead of just pissing it away on ad-buys, if they're feeling frisky. Lots of credit for #StandingUpToTrump, no pressure to actually pass national legislation.
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:But why would they prefer to win this election over losing it? Sure they could make a lot of money fundraising after losing the election, but another thing that is absolutely essential to them is that people worship them and treat them with the dignity and respect their place in society demands. If they lose the election, they will lose face, and people will make fun of them. Since that's some thing they can't stand, I can't see them losing on purpose. The democrats don't like being clowns. EDIT: Well, they don't like being perceived as clowns anyway. Clip-On Fedora has issued a correction as of 04:50 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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Willa Rogers posted:they don't like being perceived as clowns, you say? nightmare blunt rotation
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Carefully removing my "Hamas #1" giant novelty foam hand and replacing it with an "IRGC #1" giant novelty foam hand
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Murderous Iranian Regime is a great band name
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houthini houthini houthini performance fleece
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Excelzior posted:I was gonna shitpost about how "the supreme court hasnt been legitimate since Dred Scott" but, let's be honest here : gwb hires cheney to find a vp and he comes back with himself as the only option ussc was asked who has the final say between them and congress and they invent judicial review both should be treated with the same contempt
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Homeless Friend posted:somebody make a new succzone thread as the freakin page number thing is dying, thank u you have the power
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