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Bedshaped posted:most embarrassing thing I ever did was try to show my ex hypernormalisation. Hell ya
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Bedshaped posted:most embarrassing thing I ever did was try to show my ex hypernormalisation. Why was that embarrassing?
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Feb 12, 2021 21:52
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Eric Cantonese posted:Why was that embarrassing? hypernormalization is what he calls his dilz
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Feb 12, 2021 21:53
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Eric Cantonese posted:Why was that embarrassing? He showed them Cube 2 Hypercube by mistake
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Feb 12, 2021 21:54
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Feb 12, 2021 21:55
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Eric Cantonese posted:Why was that embarrassing? springing a three hour movie that opens with a long shot following of the trail of blood from a dragged away dead body iirc on someone might not be the move
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Feb 12, 2021 21:57
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Does he mentions UFOs in this one again
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Feb 12, 2021 22:03
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Paffgen posted:springing a three hour movie that opens with a long shot following of the trail of blood from a dragged away dead body iirc on someone might not be the move if it works tho that is marriage material
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Feb 12, 2021 22:03
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RaySmuckles posted:part 1 was ok part 1 is the worst part keep watching
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Feb 12, 2021 22:07
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its good but lol at a few parts. like where Clinton comes to power and he's all "and apropos of nothing organised labour just melted away, it was crazy" or the part where he seems to be framing the correct response to brutal state persecution is never armed struggle but courageous individual action in the case where the CIA planted the leadership of an entire black panther cel, sold them explosives and then one brave woman pulled a gotcha in court.
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Feb 12, 2021 22:17
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bird. posted:some people have a gift for painting a picture and breaking out of banal and trite perceptions of the world taken for granted, and i dont think i'd agree with werner herzogs political philosophy if i knew it its probably real hosed up but his documentaries are still p magical
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Feb 12, 2021 22:20
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Lostconfused posted:Well in the opening you get "These films are a history of how we got to this place, and why both those in power and we find it so difficult to move on." Then he goes on about how some things happened with people brought up on individual ideals get confronted with power structures and political systems. Talking about Jiang Qing and Chai Ling makes sense to me and fits the theme. Talking about the Opium Wars and OxyContin was baffling to me even if there is a superficial connection with Deng. Comparing the KKK, Serbia, and ISIS also seemed very superficial to me. There is a lot of grist in Edward Limonov and the Yugoslav Wars why be so cursory?
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Feb 12, 2021 22:51
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Bedshaped posted:most embarrassing thing I ever did was try to show my ex hypernormalisation. i tried this and my ex said "i asked if we could watch anime not your propaganda" the breakup was for unrelated reasons
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Feb 12, 2021 22:58
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mila kunis posted:curtis' ideology is confused but thats ok he seems to believe that material conditions are the biggest influence on people's lives and i like the historical parallels he draws part 1 at 1:06 you see a british anti-immigrant rally from the 60s/70s and twenty feet from the KEEP BLACKS OUT sign there's a banner emblazoned with the words "FREE SPEECH" 
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Feb 12, 2021 23:02
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TheSlutPit posted:I think he makes some cogent criticisms of the left as it exists today, specifically with its tendency to frame modern class/power relations in the language of decades-old political movements rather than presenting a vision for the future. He's hardly hostile to leftist principles though. in more than a few instances, people are litigating fights long won and long lost drat near a hundred years ago
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Feb 12, 2021 23:19
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Regardless of what he personally calls himself, Adam Curtis's insistence that the material conditions of people's lives are more important than inner mental processes and his condemnation of Individualism make him far more of a Marxist than half the online "left". I'd certainly put more credence in his analysis than any "breadtuber" .
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Feb 12, 2021 23:45
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i say swears online posted:https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-we-need-new-civil-war-documentary-180971996/ Welp what can I say, that's pretty lovely
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i say swears online posted:https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/why-we-need-new-civil-war-documentary-180971996/ for a second there i was excited to watch a documentary about why we need a new civil war
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Feb 13, 2021 00:02
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Do some of the threads in the first episode pay off later? I understand where he might be going with Thornley, MK Ultra, Mao's wife etc. but a bit more lost in what that one dude's divorce or artificial intelligence have to do with things.
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Feb 13, 2021 00:22
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TrixRabbi posted:Do some of the threads in the first episode pay off later? I understand where he might be going with Thornley, MK Ultra, Mao's wife etc. but a bit more lost in what that one dude's divorce or artificial intelligence have to do with things. the dude's divorce is supposed to be illustrative of leftover elements of patriarchy which persisted in the new era of individualism
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Feb 13, 2021 00:29
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he draws an explicit link between the flawed 19th century scientific drive to taxonomise everything (played over archival phrenology footage) and 'artificial intelligence'... i love it
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Feb 13, 2021 00:54
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exmarx posted:he draws an explicit link between the flawed 19th century scientific drive to taxonomise everything (played over archival phrenology footage) and 'artificial intelligence'... i love it Tying the Gadfly to the inventor of Boolean logic was a pretty fun "whoa!" moment for me.
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:for a second there i was excited to watch a documentary about why we need a new civil war
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exmarx posted:he draws an explicit link between the flawed 19th century scientific drive to taxonomise everything (played over archival phrenology footage) and 'artificial intelligence'... i love it Ahhh. That makes sense and actually lol that is brilliant.
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Feb 13, 2021 01:25
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exmarx posted:he draws an explicit link between the flawed 19th century scientific drive to taxonomise everything (played over archival phrenology footage) and 'artificial intelligence'... i love it Someone recently mentioned "Seeing Like a State" and I am now again reminded of it. How societies needed to structure and organize everything to increase their control over it.
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Feb 13, 2021 01:28
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KaptainKrunk posted:the dude's divorce is supposed to be illustrative of leftover elements of patriarchy which persisted in the new era of individualism He also included that question "To be free you had to be ruthless?" Which seems to be a theme in the first episode that he presents people with a strong sense of individuality also had a strong personality and sometimes would be selfish or cruel.
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Feb 13, 2021 01:42
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Also that 'melody in the jungle' sound cue that plays over the story of the search for the remains of a failed slave uprising keeps playing over and over again in the later episodes he literally says, when it plays the first time, that the story is a discussion of the ghosts of colonialism
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Feb 13, 2021 01:53
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Bedshaped posted:most embarrassing thing I ever did was try to show my ex hypernormalisation. I just got my girlfriend hooked on this new one, I'll try hypernormalization next.
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Feb 13, 2021 04:05
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don't think I necessarily buy his assessment in his conclusion that china is in a tenuous position but I think that might just be a holdover from a lot of this being made before the chinese response to covid was clearly superior to the west
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Feb 13, 2021 04:08
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Bedshaped posted:most embarrassing thing I ever did was try to show my ex hypernormalisation. I had a coworker who I did not at all expect show me that movie after Trump won and her comment was "putin hosed us" and I had to just lol for a solid day
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Feb 13, 2021 04:10
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Li Lilly is an backstabbing bitch. Jiang Qing is my queen.
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Feb 13, 2021 04:13
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He does back off a bit on the "individualism is bad" a bit in the final episode but mostly because he comes to the conclusion that the primary force trying to get rid of it wants to turn society into a giant skinner box. It means he comes down with a more nuanced position of "individualism has some upside but is actively corrosive to collective action, though individualism is preferable to the nightmare society that the behavioral psychologists want to create". he does erroneously say that there were no protests against the Iraq war, which is a very strange thing to get wrong no Epstein but as a consolation prize he shits on russiagate for 20 minutes he glosses over who Nalvany in Russia actually is, maybe him and Mark Ames should talk moving Deep Dream sequence made my eyes hurt
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Feb 13, 2021 04:30
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bX3F7uTrg still think about this video lol
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Feb 13, 2021 04:38
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Feb 13, 2021 04:52
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Man, Curtis really bought into the whole Tupac-as-exceptiona-revolutionary-rapper hype, didn't he? That's disappointing. Or maybe it just fits better into his narrative...SpaceGoku posted:don't think I necessarily buy his assessment in his conclusion that china is in a tenuous position but I think that might just be a holdover from a lot of this being made before the chinese response to covid was clearly superior to the west China's response was superior due to being able to coerce people into submission. I don't see that as a sign of greater overall socioeconomic or sociopolitical health as much as a side benefit of one party totalitarianism.
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I'd argue it was Red mobilization that saved China. Getting tens of thousands of people in villages, towns, and cities organized and mobilized to deliver aid, test. I don't think the regime is all that weak because people don't want the chaos of the West, and the CCP has harnessed nationalism and muzzled the liberals.
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Feb 13, 2021 05:56
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Taintrunner posted:I had a coworker who I did not at all expect show me that movie after Trump won and her comment was "putin hosed us" and I had to just lol for a solid day lol
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gently caress yeah! Been waiting for this.
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