|
Eararaldor posted:Ah..... Because I’m in the Uk and not heard anything yet Fwiw WW1984 premiers on Sky Ticket on the 18th in Germany. If that's the precedent, non-HBO'd countries might be looking at mid-May?
|
#
¿
Feb 14, 2021 18:55
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 22, 2024 15:54 |
|
|
Why does Bruce Wayne still dress up as Batman in a post-apocalyptic wasteland? It seems like there would be no one left to protect his identity from, or to inspire.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 15, 2021 00:04
|
|
|
HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It's called the Knightmare because the Batman costume is a suit of armor. He is Batman. Like, metaphorically? Seems like he should be wearing the suit he wore to fight Superman.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 15, 2021 00:08
|
|
|
well why not posted:Watch the first 5 minutes of Batman V Superman and pretend you don't know what a Superman is. Bruce Wayne looks up as he clutches that kid and sees two kryptonians. Not Superman fighting Zod. Just two aliens making the city into scrap. How could he know that Superman was a benevolent force? Isn't Batman's thing being super prepared/the world's greatest detective? Seems like he could've looked into Superman at some point between the attack on Metropolis and trying to kill him.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 15, 2021 10:47
|
|
|
Shanty posted:It wasn't a question of being unprepared/a bad detective, because he does completely succeed in his mission to never let that happen again. He just needed to see supes in a different light. You can't really deduce your way into empathy, and Bruce basically locked his away in his mother's tomb. But the idea is that Bruce just sees "sees two kryptonians, not Superman fighting Zod." The military was aware of what was going on. That Superman was benevolent was known.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 15, 2021 11:19
|
|
|
McSpanky posted:That was brought up and accounted for, "if there is even a 1% chance he could become a threat we have to treat it as an absolute certainty". Bruce is jaded as hell after spending 20 years fighting crime in Gotham with nothing to show for it, most of his enemies were good people turned bad by terrible circumstances and corruption is rife at every level. He simply doesn't believe that someone with Superman's power will remain good and not become a civilization-ending threat some day. I guess this is my problem with BvS. I think it would've gone a lot further if, instead of seeing the Waynes get murdered yet again, the opening was an actual scene of Robin getting murdered. Every Batman loses his parents but not every Batman starts branding people so they can get murdered in prison and it feels like the audience is just expected to go along with this interpretation.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 15, 2021 11:46
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 22, 2024 15:54 |
|
|
KVeezy3 posted:Certainly, the death of Batman’s parents has been a staple of every Batman film, but we should recognize how Snyder does it differently and how dependent the entire structure of the film is on that opening. “Martha” memes aside, the theme of parental figures permeates the film. While Batman is having nightmares about his parents and his mother being a monstrous vampire, Superman is able to turn to his mother and (The idea of) his father to find a calm island in times of crisis. The film makes Lex Luthor into a Jr., and although Luthor Sr. is long gone, his presence remains an ominous specter over the film. Batman is both the point of view character who has understandable reasons to distrust Superman, even though the audience knows he's good because he was the hero of this first film, but also a vicious vigilante who's deeply troubled and condemns any criminal he comes in contact with to death. It's like Snyder wanted to have his cake and eat it too. At least the death of Robin would have given Batman a concrete breaking point that he could eventually work back towards.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 15, 2021 19:26
|
|