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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

My current photography project is to look out the windows of my house and seeing amazing conditions but not being able to go outside because I have a stupid 9-5 job and sunset is at 5:30. So I get mad a lot at all the stuff I miss.

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I fully extend the first segment of the front leg, line up the mounting plate with my chin, then extend the second segment until the foot hits the ground and lock it. That way I'm setting up the tripod roughly where I visualized the composition (which is complete poo poo).

Then I extend the other two legs because a one legged tripod is pretty useless.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Anyone else constantly drop their backpack too close to their shooting location and have to kick it out of the way to make room for the tripod legs? Or is this my own special brand of stupid.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I think there was some kind of guideline in ancient times where if a photo you liked showed up in the low effort thread you could crosspost or link to it in PAD and talk about it there.

So if the thread with the photo you want to talk about got locked, maybe you could do something like that. Or start a thread purpose built for the task. Or post wherever.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Sleepytime posted:

Speaking of ICM, this popped up today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2rGplgQ3cA

Andrew Gray's stuff rubs me the wrong way. It's ICM with about 69 hours rebuilding the scene in photoshop.

On one hand the results are generally nice, but on the other, he doesn't even really need a camera for what he produces. It's cool that he likes doing it but it's too much processing for my tastes.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

bellows lugosi posted:

all i want to do in life is drive around endlessly taking photographs

It's hilarious to me how many iconic natural landscapes have been taken from a car parking lot. Photographers are actually extremely lazy.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

The best way to learn any photographic genre is to go out and take pictures and post them here so people can tell you how you suck. After 10 years of this you might start to show some competency.

Also devour other people's pictures. Find some photographers that work in a style that resonates with you and try to figure out why you like them. It's fine to straight up copy them early on but be aware that long term that won't work.. either people will get annoyed at you or you'll branch off and put your own spin on things. Or your tastes will change and you'll do something completely different.

If you're a more social type local groups and paid workshops are viable, I guess. It's a good way to talk in person about pictures and if you pay for a workshop you'll get escorted to famous spots but you're gonna spend a ton of money for the privilege.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

If you're taking any pictures you feel are of value, you'll want to keep the original files forever. That way you can always go back and re-edit them or work with the most data possible to get the best results out of whatever your output format is.

I don't know what your hardware situation or picture taking habits might be but a cheap 1TB drive can hold over 200k photos from your camera. That seems easy to do to me in 2021.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Well that's what I meant, keep the original raw files unless you are absolutely sure you hate the pictures and never want to look at them again. If you ever do get "serious" you'll want to be editing the original and there are limitations do how much you can get out of jpegs.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

All my raw files are on a NAS and I have the catalog on my internal SSD. Lightroom stores previews in the same directory, so it's a good hyrbid approach. I have no issues with speed.. it's certainly not light speed (bottleneck is my gigabit network) but it's fast enough to get things done.

If you generate smart previews you can detach the original storage for a speed boost. There's some edits you can't do on smart previews but it's pretty flexible.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Anyone in here done a solargraph (translation: pinhole camera that takes an image over several months) and got experiences to share? I was thinking of setting one up a the summer solstice this year and run it for six months, so I got a couple months to screw around with implementation. Unfortunately there's not a lot of really concrete information, basically "buy photographic paper, put it in a can, make a small hole and tape it to a pole." I kinda want more detail than that.

My questions are:

Which paper? It "shouldn't" matter, just any B&W paper will do the job but this post suggests that different papers generate different effects: http://www.greggkemp.com/journal/papers-for-solargraphy. Anyone got a favorite paper? I'm guessing matte is best to avoid reflections inside the can.

Calculating a field of view. Field of view should be based on how far the paper is from the pinhole, right? What's the math for calculating it? Googling around it looks like a standard soda can with 5x7 paper will get 160 degrees fov so I probably shouldn't care too much, but I would like to try a 8x10 sheet.

"Developing." Conventional wisdom says you can't develop the paper, it'll obliterate the image. But there's people out there that have claimed to do it, like this one: https://www.flickr.com/groups/1003401@N22/discuss/72157623303552562/ with no specifics given. It seems like the best non-chemical solution is to take a picture of it with a DSLR. Scanners are the convention but they destroy the image quickly so one better hope they get it on the first pass. And I think it'd be really cool to keep the original.


There's only one mention of it on the forums, here:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=1&threadid=2864270&pagenumber=152&perpage=40&highlight=solargraphy#post389690409

Which has some interesting ideas. I guess I could just post in there too but this also seems like a good place to start.

edit - found a handy pinhole DIY site to help with the field of view calculation. https://www.diyphotography.net/the-comprehensive-tech-guide-to-pinhole-photography/

xzzy fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Apr 13, 2021

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

It's not either a pro or a con. It's just a depiction of the vision of the person that created it. I wouldn't chase a style trying to become anything, despite lots of blog posts floating around out there how if you want to "make it" you need to develop and stick to your brand. Let that poo poo develop naturally and watch it evolve over time.. one might settle in a certain spot and stay there forever, and that's cool. Or one might do a complete 180 every couple years and try something different. Everything is cool, focus on having fun taking pictures. If you ever find an audience the authenticity will absolutely stand out to them.

And yes, there are several people on this forum that are instantly recognizable by their composition, subject selection and processing.

As for the Ansel Adams part, I don't want to be him but I sure as poo poo will look at his stuff and take bits and pieces to try it out in my own photos.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Ah yes, "Lens Fucker," one of the most important manuals on the topic.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I wait for stuff to get pretty again. Around me we're in the flat period, all the cool winter scenes are gone and the foliage haven't filled out yet so everything I like to photograph looks really bad. The weather patterns aren't very interesting either.

It would be nice for nature to be inspiring every month of the year but that ain't happening unless one can afford to spend months traveling.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I've seen people mitigate that with a radial filter over the sun to smooth out the transitions a bit. There was a youtube video I saw that talked about it a bit but hell if I can find it now. But it involved tweaking texture/clarity/dehaze downwards a bit to blur the edges for a smoother gradient.

Can probably do it in photoshop too with a radial gradient. The idea there is to add your own color information to the area and fade it in to mask the banding.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I covered our living room wall with metal prints, and despite the glare I love the look. Borderless floating mounts just really work for me. I only have a couple paper prints behind glass and they look good, but the saturation is definitely less. I think they'd be better dry mounted with no glass, it feels like they deserve to have the paper texture visible.

For metal mounts, make sure you pick a company and stick with it, as I've tried out three and everyone has a different mount depth.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I know it but I haven't used it since 1995 when I graduated high school. It was effectively irrelevant then and now that everyone does everything on a computer it's a complete waste of a student's time.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

The catalog is a single file somewhere on your hard drive, if you can locate the version with your edits since May you will be able to open that catalog and it'll be as if nothing happened. If the raw files moved it might throw up a bunch of question marks on all your images but there's a "locate files" tool that is pretty good at tidying things up.

This is also why you never hit 'skip' on the weekly catalog backup prompt. It saves a checkpoint of your catalogs basically forever.

On windows the default location is going to be Pictures/Lightroom/Catalog Name/Catalog Name.lrcat. The 'Backups' folder is where all the backups are, in zip files. You can extract them and open them directly in Lightroom.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

The timing of a family visitation in the SW lined up well with peak fall color in Colorado so I took a few days to tour the state and man it's been an experience. Hanging out with other folks taking uninspired photos from landmark locations I thought would have entertainment value, but the endless fish stories and attempts to predict what spots look the best gets real tiring.

There was even a Peter Lik debate!

Don't think I could do this again, but I guess anyone that likes rocks and trees landscapes should do it at least once.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

It was nothing new, just the tired "he's a hack!" and "well he's rich and I'm not so.." type stuff. I was surprised that people still think about it.


No trash to photograph, but as people were taking pictures of a mountain reflection in a beaver pond, I was taking pictures of sticks in the water.

And I could never hope to pull off what Isaac Sachs does there. I couldn't sit there and wait for the perfect group to stand in the right spot.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Ughhhhh I got the "you have a nice camera, I know it's a long shot but can you do this wedding at the end of the month??" speech today.

I don't know how to shoot people, I don't really like it, and weddings are even more alien to me.

Also I'd need to learn the skill of demanding payment for the time.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I know lightroom is kind of a bad word around the internet lately and it's certainly justified because now they have actual competition, but if you're one of the goofs like me still paying for it, the new masking tools are slick as heck and are 100% worth a look.

Want to mask something from the background? Draw over it with the paintbrush mask, add a color range mask and select colors around the object, and boom done.

Certainly something you could be doing in photoshop but it's nice to only need one program.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Their medium format cameras got real popular real fast too. I think they're overkill, 100MP is just silly, but I suppose people that make their living off taking pictures might see value in it.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Merino is known for keeping you from stinking, it's unfortunate it doesn't work on Eric's photos.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

The flickr plugin is rear end, just good enough to make you think it's the answer but nowhere good enough to rely on.

I do it all manually, export to my cloud folder so I can have all my pictures everywhere then drag and drop into flickr.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Get some long underwear and a scarf, layer up properly and you won't feel the chill. Unless you grew up in warmth. Then you might be screwed.

But I fuckin' love photographing in the cold, I can tell when I'm having fun because I stop feeling the elements. Can't wait for a proper snow to finally hit.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Snow creates huge contrast with anything that does not have snow on it, so focus on shapes and lines and stuff. You don't have to make black and white photos, but it helps to think in those terms.

If you can get some fog or hoarfrost or freezing rain subjects should jump out at you all over the place. Frozen waterfalls are always fun.

If you have any nature preserves, coyotes and deer get much easier to find in the snow.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

To me, the explanation given by the company effectively ends perpetual licenses because the restrictions will guarantee that no one wants to pay for it. Sure, it's technically still available still but if you buy a copy on October 1 2023 and they launch Awesome New Feature on November 1, guess what, you have to buy a new copy to get it. And I assume this includes any updates for new cameras/lenses. Gonna be a small minority that's willing to sign up for that.

Their subscription rates aren't really that great a deal either, the LR+PS combo costs $4 less and you get everyone's favorite image editor out of it (which has good utility beyond processing photos). If you buy a year at a time Capture One is cheaper.. but again, you lose out on photoshop.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Another reason to be mad at Adobe:

https://toot.cafe/@baldur/109630505660962387

(every photo you sync to their cloud gets used as input for machine learning stuff, unless you opt out in the privacy settings)

Joke's on them using my pictures to train an AI, unless it's a tool to identify lovely photos.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Anyone in here like to plan out compositions involving the sun 7 months in advance?

I'm building up plans for the annular eclipse that passes through the western US this October and so far my favorite setting is Monument Valley. I'll make some backup plans in the region if I can't sort out access on the Navajo reservation. It's basically all BLM land out there so that part should be easy.

Just curious if anyone else in here does this sort of thing and has advice/anecdotes.

(planning the April eclipse next year is not going as well)

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I assume they'll immediately start up a new site and keep doing their thing. It'll be smaller and lower budget but they've been at it so long I don't know why they'd quit.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

PetaPixel? :barf:

The photography news community is in pretty bad shape isn't it.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I would never put my entire library in the LR cloud but I have done well with a hybrid setup, everything exists on my desktop at home and I only sync the "travel edits" and "my best stuff" catalogs to the cloud side.

It's been pretty seamless and I do enjoy the feature. I like to do some fast edits on the road with my iPad when the concept is fresh in my head and it'll be sitting there waiting for me when I get home to be refined.

But I've also never gotten a warning that all my poo poo is about to be deleted. That would definitely raise some eyebrows.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I use a synology too but that's not a full backup solution. Until you got a copy stored off-site your cat pics are at risk.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

No one likes my pictures except me (and allegedly my wife, I secretly suspect she's just being polite but then again she doesn't try to take anything down) so I decorate the gently caress out of my house with my prints because I like looking at them.

Totally justifies the $10k in gear I've bought in the last 13 years.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

What's a friend? Can you link me to one on KEH?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Spaced God posted:

I kinda wanna try selling prints but based on the like three redbubble sales per year I get I don't really think there's a market

I don't think it's possible to make a living off selling prints anymore, but you can definitely get an occasional dopamine hit if you're willing to market yourself. I was talking with a guy that carries a folder full of his shots into higher end furniture stores and offers to decorate their display areas. If any of the prints sell the store gets 20%. The logic is if someone doesn't mind spending several thousand on a fancy couch, a couple thousand on a giant print is nothing. His claim is his work is in a dozen furniture stores in the area and a handful sell per year.

There's also a story of John Fielder needing knee replacement surgery but he had no health insurance. So he offered to decorate the hospital with his prints in exchange for the surgery and they took the offer.

I don't know if I have the capacity to sell myself like that but I guess it works for people that can do it.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Dust chat makes me wonder.. are the new crop of AI denoise tools any good at cleaning that up? It would be cool to mash that button and be done with it.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I did my first workshop back in the spring and it was kind of bittersweet. I got to visit a world class location and get shown the best spots by a local who's work I really, really enjoy. So that's awesome.

But did I learn anything? Not really. It's like I know what makes a good photo (whether or not I can do it is irrelevant) so paying someone to tell me what works doesn't feel worth it. So it was mostly paying for a guided tour so I can go back in ideal conditions and bag the epic shots.

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

My 100-500 is my favorite landscape lens, narrow field of view for life. The image quality loss when photographing through 10 miles of atmospheric haze is a style choice!

Shame it's so heavy, it's a real love hate situation after lugging it on my back for ten miles.

Also good for birds and flowers I guess.

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