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Valtonen
May 13, 2014

Tanks still suck but you don't gotta hand it to the Axis either.

Miloshe posted:

So in the USMC from the first day of bootcamp you are forced to submit to rote memory institutionalized "knowledge" of the history of the Corps. Absolute horse poo poo that would make an intelligent 5th grader embarrassed to recite, such as the first commandant, highly decorated Marines, the names of battles like Chosin and Hue City. Apparently it's supposed to imbue a sense of tradition.

If there's anything comparable in conscripted forces I'd be interested to hear about it, especially those sharing land borders with Russia. Did you receive similar simplistic propaganda? Was it openly discussed who you were preparing to go to war with? What kind of unique national military history was taught and how?

Finnish tank conscripts have a ceremony of “handing down the traditions” which I will briefly explain: the older conscript class about to reserve out (all tankers independent of rank serve 12 months, a unique branch for regular FDF) makes a formation. The younger class makes a formation facing them. Background is usually the Stug 40 of our most famous tank ace, börje brotell. (12-15 kills with a stug, including IS2s) That is sitting right outside the häme panssaribattalion front door. Then the older class head honcho hands a closed scroll that contains ”traditions” ( propably a drawing of a dick) to the equivalent of the younger class. Instructors call that traditions have been passed. Ceremony ends.

Aside from that and knowing that börje brotell is a tank demigod, Thats about it. Oh, and like 4 lectures on why Finland needs conscription, and a propaganda video How we are totally qualified real soldiers.

Oh, and for training purposes the FDF always fights the Yellow Nation. Yellow Nation speaks Russian, drinks vodka and drives Russian tanks. And comes from the east. Go figure. Also at least in 2007 Yellow nation was very adept at SIGINT and radio discipline and camouflage was drilled like mad- movement to contact was radio silence, staging If possible with non-transmitting means (motorcycle runners) If radios on- yellow nation jamming and indirect is immediate and brutal.

U.S Army OSUT training included WAY more bad propaganda and indoctrination at least for tankers.

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