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Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

Barry Foster posted:

I was really leery about this as well and was getting a bit frustrated with the way my therapist kept bringing back my issues with the world back to me, but ultimately it's their job to help you, not the world.

[...]

Like, lots and lots and lots of people before us and around us have fought the good fight, not just relentlessly but with optimism and good cheer, and it's not like they're any less aware of the problems than we are. If you need to speak to a counsellor, it's because your problems are yours, if that makes sense? I can probably find a better way of putting that.

i think you put it very well. lets get a despair is counter-revolutionary, kids (dick for short) gangtag going

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Comrade Fakename posted:

Still pretty questionable. They wouldn't name their party the Northern Independence Generation for Green Environmental Revolution, would they? I don't think anyone think's there's any racial animus behind the name, but when it came to deciding it, the fact that the initials also spelling a racial slur for east Asian people wasn't a dealbreaker would be quite demoralising, were I east Asian.

Mmm, yeah that's fair enough actually

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

I am glad there is such a thing as trans visibility day, frankly giving them invisibility as a racial trait was OP and having only one day a year where they can be seen is a huge balance issue.

I want to post something on facebook, is this good, are they secretly terfs?

http://genderedintelligence.co.uk/tdov2020

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

Prospect posted:

As things stand, differential electoral turnout compounds the demographic drift: Ipsos Mori estimates that turnout in 2019 was 47 per cent for the youngest adults against 74 per cent for pensioners. Some of this is about the logistical difficulties of registering to vote if you rent and move frequently. Unfortunately, at the moment, the main “reform” in the air is not about narrowing this gap, but instead demanding extra identity checks against non-existent voter fraud—which, by demanding extra paperwork, would work to entrench it. We would do better looking at our antiquated electoral system while being under no illusion that mending it can fix the whole problem.

now that the democrats are pushing for uk voters to register, can someone into pop data let me know what increasing youth turnout to 74% would do? how many extra votes is that? feels like in an ageing society it might not even have that great an effect but happy to be gainsaid

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Noxville posted:

Its also more than a little revisionist, given the loud shrieking about unnecessary multiculturalism in the opening ceremony from the usual suspects.

The Daily Mail managed to pull of a particularly spectacular example of this, on the day after the opening ceremony you had one of their why-oh-why merchants (can't remember which one) complaining that the main couple in the pop music bit were mixed race and it was political correctness gone mad and that such relationships were rarely stable... two pages along from a long piece about OLYMPIC HERO(tm) Jessica Ennis-Hill's parents and how they were such a solid and stable basis for her success, celebrating the 30 years of marriage of this mixed-race couple.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I am glad there is such a thing as trans visibility day, frankly giving them invisibility as a racial trait was OP and having only one day a year where they can be seen is a huge balance issue.

I want to post something on facebook, is this good, are they secretly terfs?

http://genderedintelligence.co.uk/tdov2020

Not heard of the website but all those talking points are good :)

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Ravel posted:

I managed to buy a one bed flat and the housing association who own the freehold have just given me and every other leaseholder in the building a charge of 30k to pay for further fire remediation. Is anyone else in this situation?

Hey, sorry to hear that, it's a horrible situation to be in. This is a national issue, affecting hundreds of thousands of properties, so you're not alone. I would advise you to get together with all the other leaseholders and form an action group, so at least you can deal with the housing association collectively.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Breath Ray posted:

now that the democrats are pushing for uk voters to register, can someone into pop data let me know what increasing youth turnout to 74% would do? how many extra votes is that? feels like in an ageing society it might not even have that great an effect but happy to be gainsaid

If turnout among the cohorts 18-34 matched that of the 65+ cohort, the Tories would never win an election again.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!



Except like in my landlord meme, the freeholder's just grinning and pressing both buttons

blues thief
Apr 1, 2013

Comrade Fakename posted:

Labour seems to be coming out pretty strongly against the report, which is a nice surprise.

And with the Forde report still mothballed, it means about as much as their Trans Day of Visibility tweet.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Leasehold sucks in so many ways. There is a campaign to end it!

https://nationalleaseholdcampaign.org/tag/leaseholdscandal/

TRIXNET
Jun 6, 2004

META AS FUCK.
Leasehold is dumb and stupid.

I am privileged enough to have afforded my own wee one bedroom flat and being on the top floor I have sole access to the loft except due to the leasehold I don't have 'right of way' to that space as I only have 'right of way' to the flat itself.

I mean I throw all my old consoles up anyway who's going to know, also thinking about making my own wine up there.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Ravel posted:

I managed to buy a one bed flat and the housing association who own the freehold have just given me and every other leaseholder in the building a charge of 30k to pay for further fire remediation. Is anyone else in this situation?

By "charge" do you mean they've just sent you an invoice for £30k, or that they're putting a charge on the property?

I am very extremely not a lawyer, but do have what feels like a lifetime of battling the HA. Now my knowledge may well be out of date as the last major fight I had with them over major works charges was almost a decade ago (thank gently caress) but as I understand it the situation is that the freeholder can unilaterally invoice leaseholders for the cost of major works required to guarantee the fabric of the building, but with a number of caveats:

- The works must be proportional - they cannot use a leaky roof as an excuse to do works that *aren't* required to repair the problem.
- The leaseholders must be properly consulted on both the scope and expense of the works, and the tendering process must be transparent
- Works that come under the aegis of "maintenance" and "upkeep" *are capped at £10k per dwelling*
- They cannot make a charge for works required to bring the structure up to *new* safety requirements (although they can add it to the service charge)
- "Emergency" works - those required to prevent major failure of the structure or usability of the building - may be unlimited in cost (well, practically up to the replacement cost of the building, obviously)
- For works over £10k, they *must* offer the option of putting the cost as a charge on the property, to be paid back (interest free) if the lease is sold or renewed. For works under £10k, they can demand immediate payment, but if you can prove inability to pay it they have to offer a "reasonable" payment plan.

Now all of this is based on leases bought directly from councils, and leases bought from ALMOs and spun-off local authority HAs, purely private landlords get a bit more flexibility.

Now the problem is - assuming this is a cladding issue - freeholders have, with some success, mostly been able to argue that the remediation of the cladding is not a regulation issue and so is chargeable to leaseholders - that is, that the regulations have not changed and the cladding was put in place in accordance with those regulations, and so the work is cosmetic and cannot be capped or placed as a charge. You see the principle is that leaseholders are liable for expenses that raise the value of the dwelling but not for fixing fuckups made by the freeholder/builder, and they're effectively saying "Well nobody's going to buy your flat if it's in a roman candle, so fixing that means you make a profit" which is unfortunately extremely solid legally (obviously ethics never even enters the conversation).

If it's *not* a cladding issue things get a lot more complex and way beyond the level I'm happy giving even incredibly caveated advice on.

Very first thing to do - get the leaseholders together to talk about this. If there's not an existing leaseholder organisation, put one together ASAP even if it's just a Whatsapp group chat. Also find out if there's LHAs for other buildings owned by the same HA (snooping around Facebook is a great way of doing this) and try to get some communication going there. You may well find there's an LHA that's already in contact with the relevant organisations, which will save you a shitload of work.

Next step is to approach the Leasehold Advisory Service (https://clients.lease-advice.org/#/) they're a bit rubbish, to be honest, but are a useful stepping stone to more specialist advice (if you're in a union or have home contents insurance check if they have legal cover and if it covers this sort of thing, that can be much more useful). Then get ready for a fight, and never, ever, *ever* accept any deals they offer you until you're more or less on the steps of the court. When it comes down to it all they actually want is people quietly handing over money; being a pain in the arse can save you thousands of pounds.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Leaseholding is the main reason I'm holding out to buy a house that I'd actually own rather than a long timeshare on a flat. It's a ridiculous concept.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
It feels even shittier in Ireland where the leaseholds to random Dublin houses are owned by some English Lord and you have to bung them a couple grand to sort it out I guess? I refused to consider those properties

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

Jedit posted:

If turnout among the cohorts 18-34 matched that of the 65+ cohort, the Tories would never win an election again.

thanks, thats the most encouraging news ive heard all day. if anything young people have an advantage as theyre more mobile and can be registered to vote where it can make a difference. (ofc so can second home owners but they are outnumbered by students right?)

on the downside there are boundary changes and voter suppression via id

would be interested to understand how groups like momentum are approaching this

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

Breath Ray posted:

thanks, thats the most encouraging news ive heard all day. if anything young people have an advantage as theyre more mobile and can be registered to vote where it can make a difference. (ofc so can second home owners but they are outnumbered by students right?)

on the downside there are boundary changes and voter suppression via id

would be interested to understand how groups like momentum are approaching this

quoting myself so i can attach somethijng:

these look like four seats labour lost through complacency. without knowing the margins it's hard to know how fearful to be about the other constituencies they did hold

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radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Jedit posted:

If turnout among the cohorts 18-34 matched that of the 65+ cohort, the Tories would never win an election again.

Mathematically, that checks out. Which is why I have some sympathy for the Stacey Abrams approach (that, and she came over well on David Tennant’s podcast). Deliver the votes, and the policies will follow.

The root problem is the disengagement of UK youth from UK politics, because of the lack of reach of UK political media. Olds read the Daily Mail, get outraged and vote. Youngs mostly consume American-made media, to the extent that some seem to think if you dial 911 you will be talking to the feds. Nothing in that media presents any connection between voting and their lives; a mention of there even being a UK election on is rare.. To change that, you would need to actively engage with them. Which is, of course, easier said then done.

One comfort is the fact that the UK press is biased against you is as irrelevant as the fact that the North Korean press probably doesn’t like your politics either. Propaganda has to be read to work..

radmonger fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Mar 31, 2021

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

radmonger posted:

Mathematically, that checks out. Which is why I have some sympathy for the Stacey Abrams approach (that, and she came over well on David Tennant’s podcast). Deliver the votes, and the policies will follow.

The stacey abrams approach is far more "deliver the votes and the policies will gently caress you you get nothing"

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I mean, if you dial 911 on any UK phone it does switch to emergency line. Same with 112.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

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I AM THERESA MAY


Re youth turnout: worth remembering that a large part of the 2019 fuckery was voter suppression (lower turnout for winter elections, deliberately timed so that students wouldn't know which constituency they were in (also jfc did anybody else get soaked through to their bones every time they went out campaigning)). An unquantifiable part, in fact, since there's just no data on the student thing.

It was a proper savage kicking we got so yeah we'd have lost anyway, but worth remembering how big of a deal youth turnout is for the Labour vote. Specifically, worth Starmer remembering. I don't think he will.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

radmonger posted:

Youngs mostly consume American-made media, to the extent that some seem to think if you dial 911 you will be talking to the feds.

Gonzo McFee posted:

Honest tae loving Christ it'd be less offensive if it was written by Uncle Ruckus
UK Boondocks equivalent would be a good way of addressing both.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

e: lol the loving coward deleted the tweet that was a reply to, where he did the standard "Well 17 is over the age of consent in many states, so Matt Gaetz didn't do anything wrong" libertarian poo poo. Is there a right-libertarian anywhere in the world without an encyclopedic knowledge of age-of-consent laws? Is it an appendix in Atlas Shrugged or something?
Probably about two thirds of the way into the Galt speech, so that nobody else finds it.

Crayfish
May 7, 2009

Comrade Fakename posted:

Still pretty questionable. They wouldn't name their party the Northern Independence Generation for Green Environmental Revolution, would they? I don't think anyone think's there's any racial animus behind the name, but when it came to deciding it, the fact that the initials also spelling a racial slur for east Asian people wasn't a dealbreaker would be quite demoralising, were I east Asian.

gently caress me, your bloody post is what's demoralising.

You know we're intelligent enough to tell what an acronym is right? You know we don't turn to dust at the mention of the word nip? You're even allowed to nip out to the shops if you want! I don't mind! It's the context of the word! (Just don't call me one cheers)

I can't speak for all my Asian brothers and sisters, but I'm pretty sure they too have more important concerns than a tiny social-democratic party oop north sharing their name with a slur that tbh I don't even really hear that much anymore. (I usually only ever inadvertently get called it when someone apologises for saying something like it's a bit nippy in front of me lmao) And did you really have to spell out the n-word to make your point??

So in conclusion, gently caress right off with your cynical patronising liberal bollocks you utter oval office, poo poo like this is so loving unhelpful at a time when we're facing really quite serious bigotry and violence around the country.

Crayfish
May 7, 2009
And apologies for the angry post, I usually hate it when people post like I just did.
I've genuinely learnt a lot from lurking these threads over the years, but loving hell do some of you just post utter shite.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Hold my beer

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Wait is “nippy” as in cold a racist thing? :psyduck:

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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TACD posted:

Wait is “nippy” as in cold a racist thing? :psyduck:

According to google it's not and it's just a coincidence, but YMMV that's just my googling.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Crayfish posted:

And apologies for the angry post, I usually hate it when people post like I just did.
I've genuinely learnt a lot from lurking these threads over the years, but loving hell do some of you just post utter shite.

It's the UKMT promise.

Crayfish
May 7, 2009

TACD posted:

Wait is “nippy” as in cold a racist thing? :psyduck:

No it's not, but the room gets quiet when someone says it around me haha

Crayfish fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Mar 31, 2021

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
I had never heard of 'nip' as a racial slur before reading this post so at least someone learned something from the mess of this thread? :shrug:

And I completely understand the feeling that a life must have Meaning to have Worth. It baffles me that some people can be content with their perfectly normal lives whereas I have a need to justify my own existence (a demand that I wouldn't make from others). Except it never lasts long, because as soon as whatever I do becomes part of my normal routine, the feelings creep back and something else has to be added. For me it's related to isolation, but recognising that isn't exactly helpful - deep and meaningful connections to other people generally require the other person to reciprocate.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Meaning is wholly subjective and exists only within the person conceiving it, so a search for meaning can never be more than a search to scratch an itch of your own mind's creation. We aren't in perfect control of our minds so that's not necessarily saying much, but I do find it helpful to keep that in perspective. It might feel like it is necessary to connect yourself to something bigger than yourself, but the meaning you derive from that cannot ever be more than internally constructed validation of an already internally constructed sense of absence.

You can, if you take it on faith that other people and things are real, actually be part of something bigger than yourself, to be sure. But the emotional part can only ever be in your mind. So if you're able to get it I hope it makes you happy, but if you can't, I personally find it helpful to not feel as though you are lacking something transcendent, because I don't think you are.

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

OwlFancier posted:

The stacey abrams approach is far more "deliver the votes and the policies will gently caress you you get nothing"

‘Nothing’ would be so much of an improvement on the active hostility of the current status quo that if the only way of getting nothing was a bloody revolution. I’d consider it.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


TACD posted:

Wait is “nippy” as in cold a racist thing? :psyduck:

Is it not just "it's cold enough to make your nipples erect"? That's what I always assumed

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Crayfish posted:

No it's not, but the room gets quiet when someone says it around me haha

because you're part shark?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

forkboy84 posted:

Is it not just "it's cold enough to make your nipples erect"? That's what I always assumed

No it's that the cold is biting, like getting nipped repeatedly.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

To clarify catnip is also not a racial term, likewise turnip.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

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