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OwlFancier posted:For him to be right, there would have to be a signficant group in the labour party who think starmer being elected or not is an entirely secondary concern to purging the party of socialists. The Labour right think purging leftists and making themselves electable are one and the same, they have to get rid of the "stain" of Corbyn to make themselves electable This is because they are incapable of analysing the fact that New Labour failed on its own terms and that their ideology is simply not very popular
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Guavanaut posted:I had a delayed faster payment that was supposed to come through on the last working day of February come through this morning, hopefully it's just an end of month thing for you. Hopefully. I've asked her to send me the details of the payment and if it doesn't come through overnight, I'll go up the bank personally and see if they can find it. I doubt very much that there is more than one Dr Jaeluni GG* Asjil or Dr J Asjil or J G Asjil at my local branch with my exact sort and account nos! *GG god's gift 
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MikeCrotch posted:Unite have not made any voluntary donations since Starmer became leader but still pay affiliation dues (though they cut that as well iirc) Cracking. Even better than I remembered. And makes disaffiliation even easier.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Hopefully. I've asked her to send me the details of the payment and if it doesn't come through overnight, I'll go up the bank personally and see if they can find it. The sender can ask their bank to trace the payment, I would advise requesting that asap just in case. Should be a free service
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I need some new trainers because the current ones are literally falling to pieces, where's the best place to look that isn't Sports Direct?
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Convex posted:The sender can ask their bank to trace the payment, I would advise requesting that asap just in case. Should be a free service I think it may have been solved. Because of the name thing, there was a 2 step authentication request sent to the main signatory on the account (of which the person making the payment was unaware) who was on leave on Friday. Hopefully will be resolved today!
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The lead candidate to replace McCluskey as GS has talked a lot more about attempting to repair relations with the Labour right and retreat from the open hostility and frankly he's probably gonna win (considering he's nominated by the united left slate). I think you gotta be real cautious about seeing Unite as the saviour of socialism as it was a historic right union for a long rear end time and the vote share Coyne got at the last election shows that yeah control could slip back to a right slate - I think full disaffiliation probably would clinch that tbh
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kustomkarkommando posted:The lead candidate to replace McCluskey as GS has talked a lot more about attempting to repair relations with the Labour right and retreat from the open hostility and frankly he's probably gonna win (considering he's nominated by the united left slate). Unite have some general lovely positions - pro Heathrow 3rd runway and we had someone from Labour 4 Decrim on who said one of the worst experiences they ever had was trying to bring up sex workers rights at Unite conference and just getting a parade of people going "sex workers aren't workers, they know what they got themselves into"
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https://twitter.com/alexnunns/status/1366406062627319809?s=20kustomkarkommando posted:The lead candidate to replace McCluskey as GS has talked a lot more about attempting to repair relations with the Labour right and retreat from the open hostility and frankly he's probably gonna win (considering he's nominated by the united left slate). Disappointing to hear Coyne is the favourite to win. That's terrible.
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Julio Cruz posted:I need some new trainers because the current ones are literally falling to pieces, where's the best place to look that isn't Sports Direct? MikeCrotch posted:"sex workers aren't workers, they know what they got themselves into"  I'm not sure if that's better or worse than the "poor soiled doves" argument of the religious right/SWERFs/women's christian temperance union.I guess 'better' in that at least it's one that could be applied to everything, like Amazon warehouse workers also know what they got themselves into, so if you're going to take that route why bother with unions, dehumanize yourself and face to pissbottle.
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forkboy84 posted:Disappointing to hear Coyne is the favourite to win. That's terrible. The favourite is probably Turner who is the official nominee of the united left slate who control the majority of the executive council. But there was a big argument about his nomination because he emphasized de-escalating the stand off with Starmer and trying to work with him so the guy that lost to him in the nomination is also running anyway thinking that he's too weak. Coyne hopefully won't do as well as last time cause a big part of his campaign was "gently caress len" accusing him of personal misuse of powers but message does seem to have been received that the UL might need to tack slightly more to the centre after his success at the last vote.
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kustomkarkommando posted:The favourite is probably Turner who is the official nominee of the united left slate who control the majority of the executive council. But there was a big argument about his nomination because he emphasized de-escalating the stand off with Starmer and trying to work with him so the guy that lost to him in the nomination is also running anyway thinking that he's too weak. not sure him saying unite shouldn't protect its members and then unite winning said action is a great strategy to win
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goddamnedtwisto posted:That really doesn't follow at all. The Henry Jackson mutants know that Starmer is one of their own and is doing *exactly* what they want him to do. That’s the point; if he really is one of their own, then the undermining they are doing has to be incompetence rather than deliberate. Unless you are going for some real 11d chess stuff like undermining their own guys so the Leftists take back control so they can be properly discredited, or something.
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Grauniad maffs department strikes againNews! posted:It is believed to be the highest annual amount ever paid to one person in Britain and equates to £940,000 a day.
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radmonger posted:That’s the point; if he really is one of their own, then the undermining they are doing has to be incompetence rather than deliberate. I really don't get what you're trying to say here. The project of the right wing of the party is to obliterate the left wing of the party. They don't care about winning an election, they don't care about changing the direction the country is in, and they *certainly* don't give a single poo poo about actually helping anyone who owns less than two homes, or at least all of those priorities come a very, very distant joint-last with actually even ensuring the continued existence of the Labour Party. I've seen nothing, apart from some very mild grumbling, that I would call undermining *of Starmer and the project*.
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ItohRespectArmy posted:they're keeping him on ice until we reopen again so thousands can catch covid at his funeral. Philip isn't going to have a state funeral. He's said he doesn't want one.
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ItohRespectArmy posted:they're keeping him on ice until we reopen again so thousands can catch covid at his funeral. they're hoping he dies so that the harry and megan oprah interview won't air. the only bit thats been shown so far is him giving the press a bit of a kicking yet again
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Phil chat: It's his 100th birthday on June 10th. I expect they're hoping he'll get there.
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Jedit posted:Philip isn't going to have a state funeral. He's said he doesn't want one.
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josh04 posted:Hearing that Prince Phillip has been transferred to a better hospital where Doctors have upgraded his condition to "alive". Made this on Frinkiac earlier and all, but I decided to have lunch instead of posting 
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Dead Goon posted:So he's not dying like for real totally this time? Dunno, it's a bit mixed. Transferring him to Barts seems like a really, really bad sign - the hospital he was in should have been more than enough to treat anything he had that was treatable, it's not like the royals get sent to *bad* hospitals. The only equipment the King Edward would be likely to be lacking would be seriously specialist stuff, and even if he needed some world-leader doctor from Barts they could definitely put the doc in a taxi rather than the other way round, which suggests he needs very serious specialist care. At the same time - while they took pains to shield him from view as he was loaded into the ambulance for the transfer - the ambulance they loaded him into was a standard patient-transfer one, and the loading seemed to go pretty quickly which suggests he was in a wheelchair rather than a bed (those minibus ambulances can accept beds but it's a right pain to load them in)* and it seems like if he was right at death's door they'd have used a "proper" ambulance, or a specialist intensive-care transfer ambulance (which are the same size and shape, for the same reason, to allow the staff to work on the patient while the vehicle is moving if needed). So it's entirely possible that they're just overreacting because he is the Queen's husband and they've decided to chuck him to what is one of the best cardiac hospitals in Europe just because his angina was playing up a bit, or at least that's as possible as "They're gonna chuck the heart and lungs of a peasant in him to give him an extra couple of days". * I can't claim absolute expertise on this beyond my observation of them moving everyone out of the London Chest to Barts when the former was closed - my mum was the very last patient in the hospital, which was spooky as gently caress even *before* they started winding it down. By the time it was just her, me, and a couple of doctors and nurses clustered in one empty 8-bed ward it was proper Stephen King.
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kustomkarkommando posted:The favourite is probably Turner who is the official nominee of the united left slate who control the majority of the executive council. But there was a big argument about his nomination because he emphasized de-escalating the stand off with Starmer and trying to work with him so the guy that lost to him in the nomination is also running anyway thinking that he's too weak. Hang on a loving minute  that's just loving Farage again
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Got my first shot of vaccine! 10-12 weeks sure does feel different to the 2 weeks they were saying at the start, though. Please enjoy the next 36-48 hours... it might get a bit strange.  edit to clarify: My jab was last Thursday and i got all the residue of a decent bender but without the alcohol & fun. Just Another Lurker fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Mar 1, 2021 |
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Jose posted:Lol that other poll wasn't just an outlier any other leader
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It would not surprise me if in 5, 10 years documents reveal that Starmer was planted there to take the heat for the sheer destruction disaffiliating the unions from Labour would cause, and then disappear leaving the leadership free for a more palatable right winger to step in and scoop up the big donors. Whether he realises that's why he's there or not is entirely another matter. This will of course not work because the tories already exist. MikeCrotch posted:This is because they are incapable of analysing the fact that New Labour failed on its own terms and that their ideology is simply not very popular goddamnedtwisto posted:I really don't get what you're trying to say here. The project of the right wing of the party is to obliterate the left wing of the party. They don't care about winning an election, they don't care about changing the direction the country is in, and they *certainly* don't give a single poo poo about actually helping anyone who owns less than two homes, or at least all of those priorities come a very, very distant joint-last with actually even ensuring the continued existence of the Labour Party. I've seen nothing, apart from some very mild grumbling, that I would call undermining *of Starmer and the project*. Group 1 is the Starmer types who's only policy is that better things aren't possible so as not to scare off guardian readers. They probably genuinely believe that electoral success is possible if they just triangulate hard enough. For this example, they are the Wallet Inspected. Group 2 are the right wing whatsapp leak types who actively want to run the party as tory lite. They would be perfectly happy to be opposition for life, as long as it means they can keep up the grift of having free cars and a london flat and an office and assistants. They facilitate group 1 on behalf of group 3. For this example, they are also the Wallet Inspected (by group 3), but think they are the Inspectors (of group 1). Group 3 (who, if I'm honest, probably only exist in my paranoid conspiracy) are just straight up tories who are funding groups 1 and 2, and feeding group 1 fudged stats via group 2 to make them believe it might actually work. They want to watch the party implode and lose their spot as the main opposition. They are the Wallet Manufacturers for group 1 and Inspectors of group 2. Group 4 (formerly Group 4 Securicor) is a British multinational security services company headquartered in London, England. The company was set up in 2004 when London-based company Securicor amalgamated with Danish business Group 4 Falck. The company offers a range of services, including the supply of security personnel, monitoring equipment, response units and secure prisoner transportation. G4S also works with governments overseas to deliver security, and are therefore the Wallet Police. Group 5 is comprised of the unions, membership and party left, who are stood there in disbelief watching these idiots playing pass the wallet while the party burns. They haven't used wallets in years because they paypal local companies straight from their accounts (Wallet E-Girls?). E: changed a few bits Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Mar 1, 2021 |
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ItohRespectArmy posted:any other leader Collymore & Rashford in charge imo https://twitter.com/StanCollymore/status/1366340993797226501
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Jose posted:Lol that other poll wasn't just an outlier Boris Johnson is going to be mythologized to the same degree as Margaret Thatcher in my own lifetime and its pretty depressing.
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Sanguinia posted:Boris Johnson is going to be mythologized to the same degree as Margaret Thatcher in my own lifetime and its pretty depressing. Doubtful, all the people who love him are dying off.
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Jose posted:bbc having a normal one today What are Jews? We just don't know. 
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xtothez posted:Collymore & Rashford in charge imo Isn't Collymore a bit of a baddie? Like domestic abuse or something along those lines?
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TheRat posted:Isn't Collymore a bit of a baddie? Like domestic abuse or something along those lines? Yeah, he's hit the mother of his children and his then-girlfriend. He's expressed regret and done the "right" things afterwards but still not someone who should be held up as a hero IMO.
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