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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Already gone but I assume it was this:

https://twitter.com/shirleymush/status/1366356756344025089/photo/1

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Guavanaut posted:

Happy birthday, people with birthdays.

Which were the good soundbars that were decided upon itt?

Whatever the cheapest one Richer Sounds are selling is.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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josh04 posted:

There's no way of looking at giving Corbyn the boot in October that isn't an unimaginably catatrophic unforced error.

Until you realise there is a significant rump of Labour MPs and apparatchiks who unreservedly agree with Blair's "I'd rather see the Tories in power than a socialist Labour Party" line.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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radmonger posted:

That’s always going to be true for some historical definitions of the word socialist, for example those involving tanks and massive statues of Stalin. And I can certainly believe that there are those who would put Corbyn in that camp. Though I believe Blair claimed to have voted for him at both elections, so those people would be out-Blairing Tony.

But for you to be right, there would have to be a significant group in the Labour Party who thought _Starmer_ was unsupportably left wing. That, even in 2021, I still fail to believe.

That really doesn't follow at all. The Henry Jackson mutants know that Starmer is one of their own and is doing *exactly* what they want him to do.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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radmonger posted:

That’s the point; if he really is one of their own, then the undermining they are doing has to be incompetence rather than deliberate.

Unless you are going for some real 11d chess stuff like undermining their own guys so the Leftists take back control so they can be properly discredited, or something.

I really don't get what you're trying to say here. The project of the right wing of the party is to obliterate the left wing of the party. They don't care about winning an election, they don't care about changing the direction the country is in, and they *certainly* don't give a single poo poo about actually helping anyone who owns less than two homes, or at least all of those priorities come a very, very distant joint-last with actually even ensuring the continued existence of the Labour Party. I've seen nothing, apart from some very mild grumbling, that I would call undermining *of Starmer and the project*.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Dead Goon posted:

So he's not dying like for real totally this time?

Dunno, it's a bit mixed.

Transferring him to Barts seems like a really, really bad sign - the hospital he was in should have been more than enough to treat anything he had that was treatable, it's not like the royals get sent to *bad* hospitals. The only equipment the King Edward would be likely to be lacking would be seriously specialist stuff, and even if he needed some world-leader doctor from Barts they could definitely put the doc in a taxi rather than the other way round, which suggests he needs very serious specialist care.

At the same time - while they took pains to shield him from view as he was loaded into the ambulance for the transfer - the ambulance they loaded him into was a standard patient-transfer one, and the loading seemed to go pretty quickly which suggests he was in a wheelchair rather than a bed (those minibus ambulances can accept beds but it's a right pain to load them in)* and it seems like if he was right at death's door they'd have used a "proper" ambulance, or a specialist intensive-care transfer ambulance (which are the same size and shape, for the same reason, to allow the staff to work on the patient while the vehicle is moving if needed).

So it's entirely possible that they're just overreacting because he is the Queen's husband and they've decided to chuck him to what is one of the best cardiac hospitals in Europe just because his angina was playing up a bit, or at least that's as possible as "They're gonna chuck the heart and lungs of a peasant in him to give him an extra couple of days".

* I can't claim absolute expertise on this beyond my observation of them moving everyone out of the London Chest to Barts when the former was closed - my mum was the very last patient in the hospital, which was spooky as gently caress even *before* they started winding it down. By the time it was just her, me, and a couple of doctors and nurses clustered in one empty 8-bed ward it was proper Stephen King.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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TheRat posted:

Isn't Collymore a bit of a baddie? Like domestic abuse or something along those lines?

Yeah, he's hit the mother of his children and his then-girlfriend. He's expressed regret and done the "right" things afterwards but still not someone who should be held up as a hero IMO.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Bobstar posted:

Or it's a top-up meter and that's how much credit you have, enjoy!

I actually had something like that happen with my heating - some weirdness with them crossing up my account with someone with a similar address meant that the best way they could think of to rectify matters was to refund us both everything we'd paid over a couple of months then credit both our accounts with the full amount each of us had paid, so I basically got a free year or so of hot water and heat.

(This was after their phone app went haywire and took 70-ish £1 "verification payments" which they likewise refunded me in full and let me keep the credit - I find it hard to hold the fairly frequent little admin cockups the small firm that looks after our CHAP system makes when they're normally so quick and generous when correcting them)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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How does this count as either an exclusive or as news, given it's not anything at all in Johnson's power to do and UEFA have already said they're exploring the possiblity of hosting the whole lot in England?

e: That is the postponed Euro 2020, even UEFA can't force pubs to open. Given the original plan for Euro 2020 was to have it splattered across the entire continent, which was a loving stupid idea even before the pandemic, it's pretty inevitable that they're going to have to revert to having the whole tournament in one nation to at least pretend like it's not just one pancontinental superspreader event, and given that the semis and final were already going to take place at Wembley and England is the only country in UEFA to both have enough stadiums ready to go and a government dumb enough to let them all be used, it's only going to end up in one place anyway.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

I guess he could veto it.

Not really, at least not without putting in place the kind of quarantine and travel restrictions that he wouldn't put in place even at the very height of the deaths. If he actually told the FA and clubs they couldn't host it *without* it being part of wider measures the FA would be kicked out of UEFA and FIFA, who have rules against national governments meddling in the game which don't get enforced normally but if an opportunity to get the English out of your organisation presented itself wouldn't you take it?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

Americans already did it lol I have no idea if this is real?



A gridiron field is 120 yards by 60 yards if you include the endzones and space at the sidelines, so possibly. Don't make me get the envelope out to work out if the angled flight deck is wide enough to fit the entire field.

However to answer the question about real football at sea - minimum width of a pitch for an international match is 68m and weirdly this seems like a fairly hard limit on the beam of supertankers - there's only one ship wider than that still sailing and that's this thing:



which is a bit bumpy even for 70s football.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Jippa posted:

How much of the country do you reckon will have been vaccinated by june 2021 (if we get the euros)?

It's hard to say because all of a sudden we're having "supply problems" now that we're moving to second doses. Weirdly these "supply problems" don't seem to be affecting the first-dose headline figures, but whatever. Assuming that they *can* get second doses moving properly and the pace evens out to 2M each of first and second doses per week (an almost insanely optimistic figure but we'll go with what the gov are saying) with a 12-week gap, then in 14 weeks we should have 15M people who've had their first dose and 28M who've had both. A more realistic (but still optimistic) figure of 1M a week each is 14M with both doses.

(In reality I genuinely think they're just gonna go "welp first dose is good enough" so potentially we could have almost the entire adult population done by then, pretend like everything's over, and usher in the thousand-year Borisreich)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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https://twitter.com/sammisam147/status/1366517682544267272/photo/2

Listen I know cuck is a horrible term to be throwing around in political discourse, but loving hell.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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JoylessJester posted:

Aren't a number of British Holiday camps literally just barracks that were sold off in the 50s and 60s or have I made that up?

It's even better than that, they're WW2 POW camps. Billy Butlin had his camps commandeered at the start of the war to use as training and mustering centres (the not-camp at Bognor was allowed to stay open as an amusement park because even in war people need the occasional knobbly knees contest).

Being a smart guy, he offered to build the War Office a load more camps if they let him buy them back at a discount after the war was over, but they said they didn't need any more - but they did (or rather would) need some POW camps, which he gladly built for them. This why most Butlins are in traditional seaside resorts but 2 of them are in the arse-end of nowhere (Pwllheli in Wales and Ayr in Scotland - Filey was also built and used this way but the plan was always to build an actual proper resort around it, but at the time it was just a tiny fishing village).

e: Huh, the story I was told as a kid staying at Pwllheli was in fact slightly inaccurate, it was also used as a training camp, but by the Navy rather than the Army. How many lies are still waiting in my memory to be exposed?

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Total Meatlove posted:

Ayr is next to a major international airport and the major air corridor for transatlantic flights so it wasn’t in the arse end of the arse end of nowhere.

The amount of people taking transatlantic flights to Ayr in 1940 was pretty minimal, though.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Without googling to double check, Corbyn won across the board and would have won WITHOUT the £3 registered supporters (of which I was one) and the possibly tiny number of tories who joined (one of my brothers, a card-carrying tory did exactly this - in fact he did two, one in his wife's name).

Not only without the £3 supporters - he won by a margin bigger than the entire net addition of members from the moment he announced.

(The *slightly* savvier version of that theory points at the big upswing in members at the end of Milliband's leadership and claims they're all the Trot entryists, but that was just a result of changing the status of some affiliated union members - remember when that and OMOV was meant to be the final end of the left of the party?)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Don't forget "card carrying" as a political term comes from the Red Scare in the US to describe communists, partly to show just how depraved they were to be an actual official commie, but mostly because everyone loves alliteration.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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feedmegin posted:

Also most Americans aren't formally members of a party and don't carry cards. Communists doing that is Weird and Different to them in a way it isn't to the many people in this thread who do now or have formerly had a little red card of their own in their wallet.

Still do:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Speaking of the royals, there's a massive scrum of reporters outside Barts today. I saw sat vans for CNN, NBC and RT and lost count at 20 photographers/videographers, and there are satellite vans from three continents news channels parked all over the loving place. I assumed something must have happened as at least three live OBs seemed to be happening, but I guess it was just live reports on Big Phil still not being officially dead for the midday news? Utter insanity, it must be costing tens of thousands of pounds a day to keep people stationed outside a hospital where they will *definitely* not be the first to hear if he dies or gets better, just weird cargo-cult journalism, so they can say "we now go live to..." someone who just reads out the email that the press office sent the news room.

(I know this is the case for almost all television news - it was just particularly odd to see them all and realise they've been there for at least 3 days and most of them had probably been hanging around the other hospital for a week - even odder that for some reason they're all outside the KGV Building which is... probably not where he is (it's where the specialist cardiac wards are, but I bet he's in one of the older buildings for security reasons because there's no way they can partition off a room/ward for him in the modern building without loving everything up) completely blocking both pavements on a pretty busy road, rather than being outside the much more telegenic and roomy Smithfield entrance (where Benedict Cumberbatch jumped off in Sherlock; the phone box there has more tearful memorials than the William Wallace monument around the corner). I assume they think it's a more dramatic shot or something because there's always red buses and black taxis driving past)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Tesseraction posted:

Has anyone else received a REACT COVID-19 Testing Research study letter? I got one that asks me to get a covid test to take a snapshot of the country.

I'm assuming they're using it to harvest my incredible DNA in order to clone an army of extremely lovely posters but I'll volunteer regardless.

If that's what they wanted to do it's perfectly possible to DNA fingerprint poo poo, as long as it's fresh.

(This was a much funnier joke in my head, I promise)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Payndz posted:

Doesn't the personal allowance get clawed back from earnings over a certain amount, so once you earn over £125k or something like that you end up paying the basic rate on all of the PA's £12k+?

It tails from £100k to £125k - for every £2 over £100k you earn, you lose £1 of allowance. The thing is it's silly to play around with that sort of taxation once you get into 6+ figures because the majority of people getting paid that much - certainly everyone apart from athletes once you get into the millions - isn't being paid a salary direct from an employer, they're being paid in dividends, share options, and all the other fun ways that the rich use to avoid paying their share. Any government that genuinely wanted to claim to be progressive on taxation would be taxing all income equally, but JOB CREATORS.

kecske posted:

there will be some serious Hollywood Accounting going on for sure. Yes we made £100 million after other overheads but there's a March 31st working lunch prawn sandwich bill of £99,999,999 which I'm afraid simply means there's no profit for you to tax this year. Sorry!

As regressive as it is, that *is* one thing to be said for VAT. Amazon et. al. get away with paying basically zero tax in the UK by having to pay loans, dividends, licensing fees, and all sorts of other definitely real and not made up liabilities to a parent company tucked away somewhere with lower corporate tax rates. As corporate tax is based purely on profit, they can - completely legally (mostly) - claim to make no profit in the UK and so not have to pay tax. VAT and other sales taxes are basically impossible to avoid in this way (although there *are* ways of reducing the amount you have to pay but they come much, much closer to fraud).

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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peanut- posted:

Other than in a few exempt industries companies don't pay VAT. It doesn't cost Amazon anything, it costs Amazon's customers.

Arguably this is true of all taxation, just at various degrees of separation - compare to companies paying their staff in "tax-efficient" ways, or the multinational dodges I was talking about - if those loopholes were closed the money to pay those taxes would still be coming from customers.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Jose posted:

this finally got me to go and check the marks for mine and its pretty good. of the 3 modules 1 had 100% of its marks for the single bit of work, 1 had 60% for the single project and 40% of the group project and the marking on the single project was properly hosed so i only got 47%. The final module was split into 24% for a peer assessed but of owrk, 6% for group work and 70% for the main coursework. got 47/70 for the main coursework, 6/6 for the grouip and then got hosed on the peer review that i've contested

Check all of your "peers" to make sure Brown Moses hasn't used his CIA connections to infiltrate the group and have his revenge.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Failed Imagineer posted:

The annual Easter jizz roll always helped the community come together.

E: also the farthest an egg has been thrown without breaking is 323ft, which is kind of mind boggling, nearly a pitch length

Is that record still held by Gary Lineker?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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https://twitter.com/NevilleSouthall/status/1367413709472206850

I wonder if Big Nev will adopt me?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Angrymog posted:

Is calling Starmer Keith a common thing now, because there's a guy on the local pollytics FB page who does it, and I don't know if it's now common or if I should be making sure that he doesn't like some deviant flavour of Monster Munch.

It started back when he was still the shadow Brexit secretary because of phones autocorrecting it to Keith and/or people getting the Kier/Keir thing wrong, which made the Fubpees sad and so inevitably the shitpost left jumped all over it (especially as he *kept* pretending that the fact his parents had named him after Kier Hardie was in some way relevant). Then the big-brains started the "Actually calling him Keith is basically holocaust denial" takes and the Streisand Effect did the rest. I'd be surprised if there's anyone in any political space in the UK who *isn't* calling him Keith at this point.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Communist Thoughts posted:

Harry married a black woman and the UK is extremely racist

Don't forget the very specific form of racism that comes along with being really, really into royalty that is outraged that he married an American, the fact she's non-white is way down their list of complaints, plus the kind of classism and misogyny that is basically its own even more specialised form of racism that Meghan is actually a successful woman in her own right and - gasp - even had public relationships with men before meeting Harry.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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VideoGames posted:

I want to join a union but am not sure what the best one is. Has anyone had any experience with GMB or something similar?

I'm still with GMB - while the leadership is *very* melty, they've been pretty good for me, although I understand that's heavily dependent on your local organisation.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Private Speech posted:

All that said it feels like those complaints would be less pronounced if she were white british.

Well that's what I'm saying, there's a substantial amount of the commemorative-plate-buying public who would be happier with Harry marrying a dark-skinned posh British woman (and it says a lot that I'm *really* struggling to come up with an example) than, say, Taylor Swift. They want their royal women demure and devoted to their husband - the plastic princess thing that Hilary Mantel got so much poo poo got talking about. These are the ones that turned on Diana as soon as she divorced Charles, which is actually probably a majority of them (with her dating Dodi al-Fayed being the back-breaker for the rest).

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Holy poo poo, I've just renewed my driving license and it looks like a cheap forgery where they've Brexited it - the format is the same but they've changed the top line to remove the EU flag and just slapped "UK" on it, and added a completely pointless Union Flag next to the text lines

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Communist Thoughts posted:

I think this is extremely naive about the level of racism among the British imo

"I wouldn't care if she was EVEN BLACKER but she should act proper" is the kinda thing a racist taxi driver sez

I'm not talking your common-or-garden STANDS TO REASON types, I mean the kind of people who send the Queen birthday cards and can tell you the names of all her corgis. They're not really that online, but we're talking levels of fandom that make BTS fans look like dilettantes.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Guavanaut posted:

How old was your last one? I renewed mine about 5 years ago and it had the badly photoshopped completely pointless Union Flag next to the text lines as well as the EU flag with UK in the middle in the top left, but I'm sure that my one before that only had the latter.

e: Looks like it started in 2015 for reasons that can be summed up as "lmao the tories".

10 years ago, I'd post the two for comparison but :effort: to censor them enough.

Also somehow the (admittedly useful and impressive) option to transfer the digital photo I submitted for my passport to the new license has somehow put two stone on me and added eyeliner, I look like something between thingummy from Green Day and the bad guy from Highlander.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Lol, Troubles 2.0 is ramping up then. Thanks pricks, I can't wait to get my second vaccine and immediately get blown up on my first trip to the Arndale.

Get them to mix a little bit of semtex in with the virus then you'll be immune to bombs too.

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Dec 31, 2004

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:eyepop:

I remember being terrified of the Jessflaps Menace, which shows just how effective propaganda can be. Fairly sure I just voted RLB with no second choice when it actually came to it.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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I can definitely see the possibility of Labour going soft-fash (well less soft-fash than they are at the moment) after the locals. They've already signalled a willingness to attack the Tories from the right on economic policy, I can easily see them doing the same thing on culture war issues to try and chase the Nick Ferrari vote. I don't worry too much about them getting into power on that platform (as should be blatantly obvious to anyone not huffing their own centrist farts, you can turn the racism dial as far as you like and the flag-shaggers *just won't believe you*), but I'm terrified of what sort of thing that'll let Priti Patel get up to.

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u brexit ukip it posted:

Can someone smarter than me help me understand the article's explanation:


If it's just a trick of the brain, then how come you can capture it on camera?

The image tricks the brain. Easiest way to think of it is there's a mirror on the ocean that's reflecting the sky - your brain therefore sees sky "under" the ship and is convinced it's flying and disregards all other cues telling it otherwise. Cover the ship up and the "seam" between the sky and the reflection is much more obvious, cover up the reflection under the ship and the fact that you're missing the bits of the ship beneath the waterline becomes obvious.

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Dec 31, 2004

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happyhippy posted:

The pic is wrong.
The light from the ship isn't bending that much, we are talking about nanometer levels here.
The denser/lighter air bends the blue part of the light from the ship and surrounding water changing it so that it has the same color as the sky that meets the water from your position.
Blue light has a wavelength of 450 nanometers, the air is 'bending' it by a few namometers just.
The light from the ship is bending too by this amount.

I think that their entire explanation is in fact wrong because like I say you can see - particularly at the right edge of the photo - the "seam", which suggests that it's actually just a conventional mirage over the ocean reflecting the sky. The only way to be sure would be with a theodolite or something I suppose to work out where the actual horizon is.

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Z the IVth posted:

How long before they start bonking.

She's far too old, far too common, and far too not-looking-like-she's-related-to-him for that to happen.

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Dec 31, 2004

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crispix posted:

i've never been able to forget that clarissa dickson-wright said she had it off with an MP in the house of commons when she was an alcie

I think the Palace of Westminster has more loving going on in it than any workplace in the country apart from (there's a couple of ways to finish this joke but they're all too depressing)

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big scary monsters posted:

I've definitely seen this proposed before (outside of UKMT). Wasn't it one of the recommendations from Leveson 2 or something?

It's been proposed for about as long as there's been newspapers, and weirdly never seems to happen unless the court specifically orders it.

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