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treat
Jul 24, 2008

by the sex ghost
diamond hands all the way to the sun, hang on to it, never leave, never sell. like the real world stock market, it can only keep going up

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Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

I appreciate that there are certain fish that always have a set price, never going up or down. makes a good buffer to store your money in.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Woah, you can move the blocks in Archon Grid. And some blocks get rid of floor pieces! Neat. I'm pretty sure I'm like 95% of the way through the game and somehow just discovering this, hah.

I have no idea why you would ever want to, perhaps there is some combination of block movings that will unlock a secret? Right now it doesn't look like it though. How odd.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

The quickest path to the end involves a minimum of block pushing, and I think there's some pushing in the very involved path that leads to the obstacle course where you find the other curse orb and the holy goggles. Otherwise I think it's just for the confusion and the aesthetic of being trapped inside the hideous sokoban game.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


I did not know you could push the blocks.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Dabir posted:

The quickest path to the end involves a minimum of block pushing, and I think there's some pushing in the very involved path that leads to the obstacle course where you find the other curse orb and the holy goggles. Otherwise I think it's just for the confusion and the aesthetic of being trapped inside the hideous sokoban game.

I got all of those things and beat the level a dozen times before learning I could push the blocks, hah. Technically I did all of those things before realizing you could break some of the blocks too.

Clearly I was not thinking about blocks the right way. I just assumed they were impassable and went through the sewer instead, which takes you right to the room next to the items AND the boss with no block interactions at all.

GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Nov 11, 2021

Acerbatus
Jun 26, 2020

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
What weapons actually count as armor piercing?

the ZKZ (which i somehow got) does not appear to.

Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Nov 12, 2021

Hub Cat
Aug 3, 2011

Trunk Lover

Off the top of my head: AMG4, the Aws sniper, and the rocket launcher.
Might have added more since last I played though

Edit: And the Caseless AR I think.

Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Nov 12, 2021

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
The panasonic nailgun for some reason I don't quite understand seems to be.

Swilo
Jun 2, 2004
ANIME SUCKS HARD
:dukedog:
it shoots depleted uranium armor piercing rounds

I didn't realize the blocks were pushable for a while because sometimes they don't want to move, I brushed up against them a bunch and nothing happened so I wrote it off until I saw things that were impossible without manipulating them and bashed my face against them :shrug: also I swear they move faster if you're pushing into them while going backwards

MSPain
Jul 14, 2006

GlyphGryph posted:


Clearly I was not thinking about blocks the right way. I just assumed they were impassable and went through the sewer instead, which takes you right to the room next to the items AND the boss with no block interactions at all.

I thought you had to do the whole BS gorbino's quest block maze to get to those items. What sewer?

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
There's a back door to the room with the poison floor, looking at the final boss its the bottom left leg of that room right at the end. To get in through it, just head straight outside from the beginning till you get past the edge of the maze block, then turn around and drop down below it, there's a tunnel with a poison floor. You'll need some sort of traversal upgrade to access it though.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
This is the gorbino’s quest of life

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Beat HQ. Goddamn that guy is just a huge pile of hp, ain't he? I imagine there's some trick to it and that brute forcing it like I did wasn't the right solution, but it was a solution.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

GlyphGryph posted:

Beat HQ. Goddamn that guy is just a huge pile of hp, ain't he? I imagine there's some trick to it and that brute forcing it like I did wasn't the right solution, but it was a solution.

two solutions - either tranq him and fill him with daylight while he’s passed out, or get your stock holdings high enough to one-shot him with the transactional rifle

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Oxxidation posted:

two solutions - either tranq him and fill him with daylight while he’s passed out, or get your stock holdings high enough to one-shot him with the transactional rifle

I did tranq him! Then I just loving whaled on his body with various weapons until I found the one I had that felt like it was doing the most damage and did that for just way longer than is reasonable.

What's "daylight" mean here?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
it's a charming euphemism for "shoot him a whole fukken bunch"

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

GlyphGryph posted:

Woah, you can move the blocks in Archon Grid. And some blocks get rid of floor pieces! Neat. I'm pretty sure I'm like 95% of the way through the game and somehow just discovering this, hah.

I have no idea why you would ever want to, perhaps there is some combination of block movings that will unlock a secret? Right now it doesn't look like it though. How odd.

Yeah it's literally a block pushing puzzle. Which is a lot harder in first person when you can't look at it from the outside! Apparently this is a representation of the in-universe game Gorbino's Quest?

hbag
Feb 13, 2021

Acerbatus posted:

What weapons actually count as armor piercing?

the ZKZ (which i somehow got) does not appear to.

the ones that pierce armor, hth

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Oxxidation posted:

it's a charming euphemism for "shoot him a whole fukken bunch"

The radiation gun is the best way to do it.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Is he actually immune to the DNA scrambler, or does it just take a lot of hits to make it work?

E: Either way, unless the latest patch fixed something, don't worry about speedrunning HQ. It's the one map where you always get a C. You can get all four times though, including uncursed default loadout which is a huge ballache.

Dabir fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Nov 13, 2021

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Groovelord Neato posted:

The radiation gun is the best way to do it.

Presuming you have the upgrade that makes you immune to radiation because otherwise that sucker kills you just as quick. You still need to hit him with the radiation gun a lot so that the clouds of rads stack up a zillion times. ...you *may* need the pacifier to keep him sedated and in this one spot.

Or have a wheel of fortune fish in your inventory and use the transactional rifle to kill him in one hit, I GUESS.

Zeniel
Oct 18, 2013
You can honestly just fire it once and then let him keep hitting you and leave him in the cloud. It will eventually kill him. Then you just have to slowly move by bunny hopping to the exit.

Easiest way is to get the zkz and have fished up a $1M fish in the casino first. He won't even get near you.

Acerbatus
Jun 26, 2020

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Or use the corporate goggles after mall madness.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
The mall madness thing is frustrating to me because all the interesting stock stuff happens so early in the game before you had any real reason to look at it or touch it. I think I beat mall madness the first evening I played and didnt touch the stocks until after that because, well, I was busy doing missions.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
It’s faster to just do a fresh game. I was hinted to invest before mall madness and not complete the next level for a bit, went from like 5k to 100 million by just leaving my computer on for a bit.

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.
there's always money in the neuron activator bank

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


I was a big dummy and didn't realize the stock market changed with the missions (assumed it was random) so I had to fish to unlock House and other such high ticket items.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
I just spent ten minutes working the markets on Nightfish and Gloomoids to afford the house.

Averaging a 20x return on investment over the course of fifteen minutes gets you there pretty quick, since those fish tend to bounce constantly between being worth a fraction of a center and being worth $20-30 dollars (at least on my machine) its basically making money out of nothing, but man does it make a person with they could buy a thousand or ten thousand at a go instead of just a hundred.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

I just got lucky and caught a wheel of fortune to buy the house. Then I got even luckier and caught another one, slapped some extra fish on top to push myself over 1 mil.

E: Wait, no, I might have got 1mil somewhere else and used it to buy a wheel of fortune.

Acerbatus
Jun 26, 2020

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
me a week ago:

Acerbatus posted:


Too bad I'll never be good enough to get the ZKZ.

me today:



:supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn::supaburn:

I made it with a quarter of a second left after throwing my gun while bunny hopping

Orb Crabmelt
Jan 16, 2011

Nyorp.
Clapping Larry
love the animalistic grunts that play as the sfx for jumping in my favorite game of Biden's first term "Cruelty Squad"

vaginite
Feb 8, 2006

I'm comin' for you, colonel.



I got over a billion thinking it affected the zkz. Just using the eyes of corporate insight and buying dips, there’s a bunch of stocks that regularly drop down into the $20-30 range then go up over $1,000. I actually had to make a mouse click macro to do it.

It doesn’t affect the zkz it caps at a million. It was all a waste.

I also genuinely laughed the first few times I hit tab instinctively to bring up a map and it brings up the stock ticker instead. I think it’s intentional.

This game rules, it grabbed me more than any game has in years. It’s just so bizarre and funny, and genuinely fun and well designed too.

Zeniel
Oct 18, 2013
Managed to get all the weapons and upgrades yesterday. This game is a tremendous amount of fun.

ilikefood
Jun 28, 2008

vaginite posted:

It doesn’t affect the zkz it caps at a million. It was all a waste.

How do you know that? I thought the zkz instakills anything without armor at $1m

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Okay someone give me a hint as to how you get this zkz?

Actually, I've got all the levels know but am still missing a handful of guns and implants, but I don't want to just look them up.

Hints on all the following would be appreciated, assuming they aren't in Trauma Loop (which I haven't finished exploring yet):

Implants:
Row 3 Column 2
Row 6 Column 1
Row 6 Column 4

Guns and Tools
Row 2 Column 2
Row 5 Column 5
Row 6 Column 3
Row 6 Column 6

GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Nov 16, 2021

Acerbatus
Jun 26, 2020

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ilikefood posted:

How do you know that? I thought the zkz instakills anything without armor at $1m

Hence a billion being a waste


GlyphGryph posted:

Okay someone give me a hint as to how you get this zkz?

Actually, I've got all the levels know but am still missing a handful of guns and implants, but I don't want to just look them up.

Hints on all the following would be appreciated, assuming they aren't in Trauma Loop (which I haven't finished exploring yet):

Implants:
Row 3 Column 2
Row 6 Column 1
Row 6 Column 4

Guns and Tools
Row 1 Column 1 (or 2 if you ignore the offset)
Row 1 Column 2 (or 3 if you ignore the offset)
Row 2 Column 2
Row 5 Column 5
Row 6 Column 3
Row 6 Column 6

I assume you're counting from the bottom up for guns and from the top down for tools..?

ZKZ

In cruelty squad hqs hidden path, go right.



Implants:
Row 3 Column 2 Biojet. Trauma Loop, in the bottom. Good luck!
Row 6 Column 1 Goo Overdrive. House, in a public space.
Row 6 Column 4 Weathered Rain Hat. Idiot Party, outside of the party.

Guns and Tools
Row 1 Column 1 Fiberglass Fishing Rod. Sin Space Engineering, in a good place for fishing.
Row 1 Column 2 RPO-80 Sanitization System. Alpine Hospitality, in a cave.

Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Nov 16, 2021

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

Zeniel posted:

Managed to get all the weapons and upgrades yesterday. This game is a tremendous amount of fun.

Some guy in my friends list wrote this game off as a meme game after 30 minutes or playtime, judging by the review. Kind of a shame because yeah I had a lot of fun playing this for the 30 or so hours I did. I’d gladly buy a level pack DLC.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Acerbatus posted:

Hence a billion being a waste

I assume you're counting from the bottom up for guns and from the top down for tools..?

ZKZ

In cruelty squad hqs hidden path, go right.



Implants:
Row 3 Column 2 Biojet. Trauma Loop, in the bottom. Good luck!
Row 6 Column 1 Goo Overdrive. House, in a public space.
Row 6 Column 4 Weathered Rain Hat. Idiot Party, outside of the party.

Guns and Tools
Row 1 Column 1 Fiberglass Fishing Rod. Sin Space Engineering, in a good place for fishing.
Row 1 Column 2 RPO-80 Sanitization System. Alpine Hospitality, in a cave.

No, from the top down for both categories.

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Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Mr. Pardiggle posted:

Some guy in my friends list wrote this game off as a meme game after 30 minutes or playtime, judging by the review. Kind of a shame because yeah I had a lot of fun playing this for the 30 or so hours I did. I’d gladly buy a level pack DLC.

I've been singing this game's praises since its release and one of the two people I got to buy it refunded it pretty quickly (the other is digging it but has some issues playing it because their computer is ancient).

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