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ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

Coydog posted:

FYI The Sienna takes the same TRD 3.5 inch lift that the trucks do.

Wait, what? The Sienna is built on the Camry platform. I seriously doubt it has any suspension parts in common with a Tacoma or Tundra.

And for all you tire lettering obsessives, KO2s are not available with white letters in 215/75R15.

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ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

They let you anywhere near an asbestos mine?!?!? Whoah, I'd have turned around and got the gently caress outta there.

kastein posted:

Man I wouldn't go near that poo poo. I don't even want the dust on my car, I gotta work on that thing sometimes.

New Idria asbestos seems to have much lower toxicity than other forms of asbestos. The fibers are much more soluble so they do not persist in the lungs. For further reading, start here: New Idria Serpentinite: A Land Management Dilemma.


The high-grade asbestos deposits are indeed fenced off.

ryanrs fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Mar 9, 2021

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

ryanrs posted:

New Idria asbestos seems to have much lower toxicity than other forms of asbestos. The fibers are much more soluble so they do not persist in the lungs. For further reading, start here: New Idria Serpentinite: A Land Management Dilemma.


No, it's still chrysotile asbestos. There really isnt a safe level of asbestos exposure so I wouldnt be going anywhere near it. The fact you can still get that close to the main open cut mine would have done my brain in but for the industrys rear end in a top hat attempts to keep itself a thing and not recognise the dangers in the USA.

glyph
Apr 6, 2006



ryanrs posted:

And for all you tire lettering obsessives, KO2s are not available with white letters in 215/75R15.

Time to go to 235s then.





Also, thanks for the link about the lost germans in death valley (in the OP). I didn't know I wanted to spend my morning reading that, but here we are.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Darchangel posted:

I further suggest that it be "TuRD Off Road"


I volunteered to cut a vinyl U to do that on my boss’s Tacoma but he didn’t have a sense of humor about his precious truck

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

glyph posted:

Also, thanks for the link about the lost germans in death valley (in the OP). I didn't know I wanted to spend my morning reading that, but here we are.

Here, have some more! China Lake Mountain Rescue Group newsletters with rescue writeups.


CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

No, it's still chrysotile asbestos. There really isnt a safe level of asbestos exposure so I wouldnt be going anywhere near it. The fact you can still get that close to the main open cut mine would have done my brain in but for the industrys rear end in a top hat attempts to keep itself a thing and not recognise the dangers in the USA.

Yeah, I didn't realize it was an actual asbestos mine until after the fact. I doubt I'll be going back to the area. I was scouting for hunting spots, but the serpentine habitat doesn't have much game. I saw some quail, but that was it.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
"Serpentine, Babou! Serpentine!"

Archer taught the game how to hide, so as to make it the most dangerous game.

kinkouin
Nov 7, 2014

ryanrs posted:

Yeah, I didn't realize it was an actual asbestos mine until after the fact. I doubt I'll be going back to the area. I was scouting for hunting spots, but the serpentine habitat doesn't have much game. I saw some quail, but that was it.

Either way, hope you somehow cleaned the Sienna off somehow in case any lingering dust.

Better not to gently caress around with your chances with asbestos :smith:

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
y- you mean that isn't spice melange?!

ought ten
Feb 6, 2004

glyph posted:

Time to go to 235s then.





Also, thanks for the link about the lost germans in death valley (in the OP). I didn't know I wanted to spend my morning reading that, but here we are.

That was really cool. Hooked me right in. And I didn't realize until the end it was the same guy who found that Groom Lake spy plane, although it makes total sense in retrospect.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

quote:

Death Valley Germans

Before I go do stupid stuff in an unfamiliar area, I try to read reports from local search and rescue groups. It's morbid, but very instructive to read about how other people died. I actually do this.

For example, in the Southern/Eastern Sierras, dangerous activities are: playing in the Kern River, falling down steep rocks esp in ice/snow, suicide, getting lost hiking in the desert.

This is why I immediately contacted the Kern County Sheriff over ham radio when I found that abandoned Civic. The car was unlocked, so I went through his stuff: new car very clean, lives in LA, recent immigrant, no hiking/camping/hunting gear whatsoever, no food/water, brand new metal detector in the trunk. Empty White Claw and an e-cig on the passenger seat.

Well, drat! That's just about every red flag I could think of, so I contacted the sheriff and set up camp nearby in case I needed to give additional info from the scene to the search & rescue people (location was a couple hours from any town, so not quick to get to).

As it happened, the guy was safe. But I was glad I had read previous rescue reports so I knew not to gently caress around and report it immediately. So many deaths happen because people don't recognize when they're in a life-threatening situation. This was good practice.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


ryanrs posted:

Before I go do stupid stuff in an unfamiliar area, I try to read reports from local search and rescue groups. It's morbid, but very instructive to read about how other people died. I actually do this.

For example, in the Southern/Eastern Sierras, dangerous activities are: playing in the Kern River, falling down steep rocks esp in ice/snow, suicide, getting lost hiking in the desert.

This is why I immediately contacted the Kern County Sheriff over ham radio when I found that abandoned Civic. The car was unlocked, so I went through his stuff: new car very clean, lives in LA, recent immigrant, no hiking/camping/hunting gear whatsoever, no food/water, brand new metal detector in the trunk. Empty White Claw and an e-cig on the passenger seat.

Well, drat! That's just about every red flag I could think of, so I contacted the sheriff and set up camp nearby in case I needed to give additional info from the scene to the search & rescue people (location was a couple hours from any town, so not quick to get to).

As it happened, the guy was safe. But I was glad I had read previous rescue reports so I knew not to gently caress around and report it immediately. So many deaths happen because people don't recognize when they're in a life-threatening situation. This was good practice.

So what was he up to?

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

Humphreys posted:

So what was he up to?

He thought he'd go metal detecting at a historical mining site (not allowed in national forests, btw). But that was only the start to his adventure. The sheriff's office got the first call about an abandoned vehicle a week before I found it, on a different part of the trail. He had high-centered, then got a ride out from someone else.

We think he returned later with a truck and tried to tow his car out. It worked right up until he towed his cast aluminum oil pan over that big rock. Then I guess he unhooked and left it again.

Hopefully he had better luck on the third try. But we're pretty sure he didn't die out in the Mojave.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


ryanrs posted:

He thought he'd go metal detecting at a historical mining site (not allowed in national forests, btw). But that was only the start to his adventure. The sheriff's office got the first call about an abandoned vehicle a week before I found it, on a different part of the trail. He had high-centered, then got a ride out from someone else.

We think he returned later with a truck and tried to tow his car out. It worked right up until he towed his cast aluminum oil pan over that big rock. Then I guess he unhooked and left it again.

Hopefully he had better luck on the third try. But we're pretty sure he didn't die out in the Mojave.

HAHA thats hilarious.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

No, it's still chrysotile asbestos. There really isnt a safe level of asbestos exposure so I wouldnt be going anywhere near it. The fact you can still get that close to the main open cut mine would have done my brain in but for the industrys rear end in a top hat attempts to keep itself a thing and not recognise the dangers in the USA.

OPEN CAST ASBESTOS MINE? FUUUUUUUCK NO. There's a place in Quebec actually named Asbestos due to the mine there, the area has the highest rate of mesothelioma in Canada. They only closed the mine in 2012 too so lots of people are still finding out what they've got every year. It's horrible.


What isn't horrible though is this rad van.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

After a year of doing literally nothing / fake-WFH, my boss asked me to do a bunch of actual work (the jerk!). So I've been doing that. In the meantime, the van has been parked.

Minivan status:
- there is an oil or atf drip onto the exhaust, probably from loving up the seal when inserting the CV axle into the transmission.
- everything else works or is minor enough that I don't remember

Gonna take off the passenger front wheel and knuckle and see if I can locate exactly what is leaking.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

Yep, it's the seal around the axle I replaced.





Not sure if I have to remove those four bolts, or not. Should be obvious when I have the new seal in hand, I guess.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

Am I correct that this pink stuff is gasket, and I really don't want to take out those bolts? I feel like I will regret pulling that part.



e: service manual confirms you just pry out the old seal and hammer in a new one, using special expensive toyota tools.

ryanrs fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jun 7, 2021

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Probably rtv of some flavor. Get a little seal puller and you can probably put the new one in with the correct sized "big rear end socket."

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

Suburban Dad posted:

Probably rtv of some flavor. Get a little seal puller and you can probably put the new one in with the correct sized "big rear end socket."

This or take it to the plumbing aisle of a hardware store and find a suitable piece of pvc/*etc plumbing to drive the seal in.

*I realize that in 2021 a pvc cap probably costs about the same as the genuine Toyota driver.


E: don't pull the metal bracket. Pop the old seal out with however much force you feel appropriate.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

While I'm waiting on that oil seal, I need to fix my front strut boot problem. I have new OEM rubber boots to protect the strut, but they don't fit my KYB replacement strut.



In these pics, it looks like the boot is a little too short, but I think that's because the strut is at full extension. The bigger issue is that the boot ID is 12mm larger diameter than the strut OD. Even if you use a hose clamp, there is so much extra rubber it bunches up and really doesn't work.

So I made a spacer! It's 3D printed with Markforged Onyx (nylon with chopped carbon fiber). This is what I've been speccing when I want a functional part that is legit strong and tough.











and yes, this was all so I didn't have to disassemble the struts to put on the correct KYB boot.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

That markforged stuff is legit. Some coworkers and I almost went in on one of their printers to try and make money on build to order stuff. We would have ended up just making lots of parts for ourselves and complaining about Scott using more than his fair share.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

I know enough about myself not to make big capital investments like that, ha ha. The downside is I have to pay $$$ to get them printed. Here's how the pricing broke down for these parts:

Each strut needs 2 half-circle spacers, so I needed 4 total.

Each spacer:
75 x 50 x 37 mm
40.7 cm^3 volume
$26/ea in qty=4

That's with 80% infill, which to be fair, I cranked up until I hit the magic $100 minimum order.

If I were ordering 100 parts, costs would be:
$15/ea for 80% infill
$13/ea for 30% infill

For comparison, if I wanted 4 parts in anodized 7075 aluminum, they would have been about $100/ea. (But I think Onyx is a better material than aluminum for this part, even if the price was the same.)

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


I honestly wouldn't have worried about it.
90% of traditional shocks just have a metal sleeve that loosely fits over the shock body, and have done for at least 50 years.
Not that I don't approve of making one's own parts and fixing anything one perceives as being not good enough, of course! Can't hurt to overbuild a bit.

edit: a Creality 3D printer is at or below around $300 now. I really want one, but I blew $600 on a Kickstarted 3D printer/laser/light-duty carver two years ago that... hasn't materialized. I'm hoping it still will, but I'm afraid it's a lesson in backing 3D printers on Kickstarter. Delivery was supposed to be Oct 2019, and they raised $1.3 million, but apparently vastly underestimated production realities. Apparently their prototype wasn't nearly as production-ready as they thought (or claimed.)

Darchangel fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Jun 8, 2021

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

I found a guy selling a Monprice 3D printer on Craigslist for $50 because he couldn't figure it out. I got it running quickly and replaced the bed. It's not as nice as the latest Prusa or whatnot, but it's a working 3D printer for under $100 with a decent build volume. Check and see if someone near you spent too much on a fancy toy and wants to unload it.

e: Some resin 3D printers are selling for under $300 nowadays. When I have the room, that's going to be an upgrade I get.

Safety Dance fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jun 8, 2021

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Safety Dance posted:

I found a guy selling a Monprice 3D printer on Craigslist for $50 because he couldn't figure it out. I got it running quickly and replaced the bed. It's not as nice as the latest Prusa or whatnot, but it's a working 3D printer for under $100 with a decent build volume. Check and see if someone near you spent too much on a fancy toy and wants to unload it.

e: Some resin 3D printers are selling for under $300 nowadays. When I have the room, that's going to be an upgrade I get.

Regarding resin printers: be well aware of the post print processing. Prepare for mess.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

I ripped out the old seal and tapped in the new one, which went in slightly crooked and might leak, fml. If I have to redo it, it's $15 and a couple hours of wrenching.

If it doesn't leak, then I'll get an alignment (again, I keep having to undo the strut). Then a longer test drive, reinstall the skid plates, and possibly go on a trip this weekend!

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

It does not leak!

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




*yet*

:) Nice work.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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ryanrs posted:

It does not leak!

Congrats. I hope it stays that way.

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe
You're outta the woods in 500-1000mi!

Congrats on a mostly uneventful fix!

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.

glyph posted:

Time to go to 235s then.





Also, thanks for the link about the lost germans in death valley (in the OP). I didn't know I wanted to spend my morning reading that, but here we are.

Same, but evening and holy poo poo I'm never driving anywhere again. Just gonna stay home safe and sound. At least I need to start taking my inreach with me every time when I go riding.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

No, you should definitely go to the desert. Research beforehand, bring the inreach, and try not to be too stupid. It's worth it!

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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ryanrs posted:

No, you should definitely go to the desert. Research beforehand, bring the inreach, and try not to be too stupid. It's worth it!



Seconding this. Just be sure to plan your route ahead and learn to read a map. So many of these stories are about people blindly driving in to a situation and not turning back when they should.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
Sorry, that’s just hyperbole. I like spending both motorized and non-motorized time outdoors. But there’s something about that story that makes me think “there but for the grace of god…” even though we always have a plan wherever we go, let folks know, have a map (and take a picture of the map - my phone is waterproof), carry plenty of water and generally don’t do what looks to me like a number of VERY DUMB things these unfortunate folks did.

The inreach is really for dirt biking which, uh, you can really get some places although on the east coast it’s much more “did you crash bad enough you can’t walk the ten miles to civilization” rather than “lol if you made a series of unfortunate but understandable single errors you will now die” like some of the west coast is.

Anyway, I’m enjoying this thread and your ridiculous (in a good way) van.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

Took it for a long test drive along the spine of the Santa Cruz Mountains from 92 to 152. Starts off as smooth 50+ mph twisties, then steadily degrades as you head south, until it's rutted dirt road as you buzz the rednecks at Ormsby. Then down Hecker Pass into Watsonville, up 1, and up and over 17.

It was a good shakedown test, and the van passed! So I guess this means I officially own a lifted offroad minivan, which is amazing.

Before and after shots of the lift:



Measuring from the ground to the top of the fender arch, I gained 3" in front and 1.5" in the rear, which will make a big difference offroad, I think. Note that my old springs were sagging, so it's more like +1.5" over stock, not 3". Driving dynamics were notably similar to an unladen truck. Not great, but not punishing, and didn't feel unpredictable or dangerous.

Josherino
Mar 24, 2021

ryanrs posted:

Took it for a long test drive along the spine of the Santa Cruz Mountains from 92 to 152. Starts off as smooth 50+ mph twisties, then steadily degrades as you head south, until it's rutted dirt road as you buzz the rednecks at Ormsby. Then down Hecker Pass into Watsonville, up 1, and up and over 17.

It was a good shakedown test, and the van passed! So I guess this means I officially own a lifted offroad minivan, which is amazing.

Before and after shots of the lift:



Measuring from the ground to the top of the fender arch, I gained 3" in front and 1.5" in the rear, which will make a big difference offroad, I think. Note that my old springs were sagging, so it's more like +1.5" over stock, not 3". Driving dynamics were notably similar to an unladen truck. Not great, but not punishing, and didn't feel unpredictable or dangerous.

This is the thread I never thought I needed.

My Fiance and I were just talking about off-roading vans to take out throughout the desert area.

Seriously great stuff.

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Dec 10, 2006

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ryanrs posted:

It was a good shakedown test, and the van passed! So I guess this means I officially own a lifted offroad minivan, which is amazing..

This is quality content. Looking forward to seeing more adventures.

ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011


Top of Hull Mountain, above Lake Pillsbury.

The trip to Mendocino National Forest went well. I'm heading out again soon, so here are just a few pics. I'll probably do a larger effortpost later.

Some minivan action shots climbing Hull Mtn.


Much of the forest was burned.


Some area burned only superficially with little damage to mature trees.


Other places have changed, but are still recognizable.


3 days was not really long enough to see what's going on in the forest. I'm going to try to go out again this weekend for 5 days.

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VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.
I had the same Sienna (1997, 2 doors on passenger side, one on the drivers side) ... even the same color, and it'a a very good vehicle.

The only issues I had was that the brake pads would need to be replaced more often than I was used to.

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