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Hugh G. Rectum posted:if there's one benefit to living in the bay area, it's that apple maps actually works really well here for some mysterious reason. so odd. yah its great here but it was so annoying going back to my rural midwestern state and having Apple Maps try to constantly route me down unpaved backroads instead of going two streets down for a normal road.
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Bloody posted:tbh the hardest goog product to dump has been maps. there's somehow no viable alternatives other than pulling out my phone and using apple maps does apple maps still exist?
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Ansible Adams posted:yeah ddg/bing maps is dogshit ddg uses apple maps i think
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Soricidus posted:why is google so bad at punishing blatant seo? thanks i hate it
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fart simpson posted:it probably works better outside china it does not
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how much of search degradation could also be attributed to content being locked behind a bunch of garbage bullshit javascript?
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Achmed Jones posted:it does not nah
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Shaggar posted:does apple maps still exist? on iPhone yes on web it doesn't seem to
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and yeah apple maps seems basically unusable outside of the US but it very much suits my needs. Thankfully
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:how much of search degradation could also be attributed to content being locked behind a bunch of garbage bullshit javascript? i think the crawler is basically a full browser these days i think the arms race between google/seo is probably the main thing.
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Bloody posted:and yeah apple maps seems basically unusable outside of the US but it very much suits my needs. Thankfully i have found apple maps really nice here in paris because google can not for the love of god design their maps so that i see the street names clearly. once you realise that google's map rendering design is geared towards showing you sponsored locations and whatever, it's impossible to unsee how little useful information there is another alternative is maps.me - the downside (or upside) is that you need to download the full map for the region you are in, but then it stays in your phone and works offline as well. you don't get updated public transport schedules but at least in tokyo the app told you what trains you needed to take to get to your destination also some forest trails were shown way better than on google maps
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i switched to apple maps after goog navigation told me to "turn right at the Starbucks"
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like can you even just try to pretend you're not selling my location to everyone? thanks
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rotor posted:like can you even just try fundamentally antithetical to the google culture
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and what are you going to use? google is literally 90%+ of the search market. bing yandex baidu and yahoo are all worse in many ways. they can be good if what you are searching for was removed from google for copyright or trademark reasons. And there are some overzealous takedowns that remove a huge amount of unrelated content if a brand name or acronym is even mentioned on a page. if your search is terrible it is probably because you are signed in and things are over optimized based on your history. either lock down your privacy settings and delete your search history or sign out and use safari or FF because chrome still has cookies you can't delete. and putting individual terms in quotes is neccesary with a lot of things but that is with all search engines these days
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google maps isn't quite as good as maybe 5-6 years ago or thereabouts, but still better than the competition. but i know that someday they'll drop the hammer and completely screw it up somehow bing maps is good for their birdseye view (photos taken from low flying airplanes), something which google maps used to have but then ditched in favor of their gloopy dogshit looking 3D crap (though sometimes I've seen embedded gmaps things that still have it, old api version or some poo poo?) and lately i've found bing maps has a lot of street view photos on little side streets google hasn't covered. thanks microsoft for tossing a bunch of money in a furnace, i guess?
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mediaphage posted:lol all you want but they’ve dumped a poo poo load of cash into improving it. i use it as much as possible these days and rarely have an issue with it. i don’t even have it on my phone. this is a relatively populated area tho. it sent me through a back route that took three hours because it thought there would be traffic delays in a town. but traffic congestion clears up pretty fast in rural nz towns... Apple maps. ftw.
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:it sent me through a back route that took three hours because it thought there would be traffic delays in a town. but traffic congestion clears up pretty fast in rural nz towns... yes good thing google maps has never sent anyone down a wrong path and should be judged from that forevermore
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lampey posted:sign out this is the best advice in the thread so far
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mediaphage posted:gotta assume baidu has a map app? yeah baidu maps works well
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i kinda think a map app in china that uses english or whatever is doomed to fail. outside of a few tourist places, the translation of place names is extremely inconsistent, non standardized, and no local will know where you're talking about
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transliteration would be ok, but completely different names helps absolutely no one.
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lampey posted:and what are you going to use? google is literally 90%+ of the search market. bing yandex baidu and yahoo are all worse in many ways. they can be good if what you are searching for was removed from google for copyright or trademark reasons. And there are some overzealous takedowns that remove a huge amount of unrelated content if a brand name or acronym is even mentioned on a page. i use duckduckgo and it is perfectly fine
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wish you’d duckduckgo back to gbs
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youtube is inescapable because the few creators i am willing to go there for do not post their videos to other places gmaps is inescapable because there is no viable browser alternative somehow
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wasn’t bing maps going for that at one time? fake edit: map quest.
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holy poo poo was google maps a revelation after dealing with garbage like mapquest
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SO DEMANDING posted:holy poo poo was google maps a revelation after dealing with garbage like mapquest full page load every time you clicked the arrow to move the map lol
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rotor posted:this is the best advice in the thread so far unironically there is a huge difference using youtube or google search or google maps logged in and logged out in a non chrome browser
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last april google finally ended support for the version of google earth that works with microstation - they dropped it hard enough that it can't contact their servers anymore so now we can't use it to import georeferenced aerial photography into engineering plans, that's kind of a big deal lol
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i learned just yesterday that you can now pull esri services directly into autocad (apparently they used to hate each other). does microststion have anything like that?
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SO DEMANDING posted:holy poo poo was google maps a revelation after dealing with garbage like mapquest it used to be so sick
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President Beep posted:i learned just yesterday that you can now pull esri services directly into autocad (apparently they used to hate each other). does microststion have anything like that? yeah but you've gotta pay them money
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:yeah but you've gotta pay them money oh, you don’t want to do the super jankity thing whereby you make a new burner email every 30 days so that you can just keep making new free trial accounts?! wow fail. e: oh, looks like it’s only 21 days now. dang. President Beep fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Mar 13, 2021 |
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i once paid money for google earth the app you downloaded so that i could zoom around better than the webpage version it was that cool to me once upon a time
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it blew my loving mind when I first saw it in 2007. i still love it. 
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yes I too remember 2007
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an extremely cool feature of google earth was the ability to pull a GPS track off a Garmin device and import it straight in so you could see your little hike on the terrain. Google's abandonment of their sort of maximalist approach to design has been really sad, every service you can watch good useful features just drop away for seemingly no reason
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MrMoo posted:transliteration would be ok, but completely different names helps absolutely no one. they don’t just transliterate though, everyone seems to translate random words and transliterate everything else. like my old office building wrote its address in english as High Tech Park Nan 7th Road, where Nan means South
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President Beep posted:it blew my loving mind when I first saw it in 2007. i still love it. yeah i used to spend ages on it and do things like plan mtb trails or really dig down into towns or places i’d seen in a documentary or which had interesting history or that a novel was set in for eg. it really seemed like a miracle that was a bit earlier though, like 2002/3. at that point i thought google was a cool bro that were like ryan phillipe in antitrust or something instead of a broke brained panopticon
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