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Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


There is a wrestler named Blake Troop

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JUNGLE BOY
Sep 23, 2019

https://twitter.com/RighteousReg/status/1719045132614533152/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1719045132614533152&currentTweetUser=RighteousReg

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

In the ton ten weird things on this show this might not even rank, but an incredible moment. What a show.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe
Smh the money mark has to be an on camera authority figure, huh

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

rotinaj posted:

Smh the money mark has to be an on camera authority figure, huh

Yes but he is excellent in this role, just look.

https://twitter.com/mongo_ebooks/status/1642204576701980679

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe
Love to see a money mark authority figure who the wrestlers are not allowed to touch or menace in any way

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
Easy paycheck. Was laughing at Cardona confronting Billy and then backing away from a physical confrontation, NWA is fully of pros that know how to get that mark owner money. Billy will be champ by end of 2024

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

posting powder is too strong for billy. he cannot be trusted with this technology

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
https://twitter.com/HuSTLer314STL/status/1719734022513799561

If someone wants to brave PWI to confirm feel free but this is in line with the last numbers we got when people made fun of Empower doing 3,500 buys. The full roster PPVs after that did ~350.

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
You'll all feel silly once the CW deal and all the new NWA affiliate promotions bump that number up to 250 for the next PPV. 275 at least if Billy challenges for the belt himself

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


If Billy gives himself the belt, I will sincerely think about buying the immediate next PPV. Bonus if it's him defending against Cardona as payoff for that promo

esperantinc
May 5, 2003

JERRY! HELLO!

Chris James 2 posted:

If Billy gives himself the belt, I will sincerely think about buying the immediate next PPV. Bonus if it's him defending against Kamille as payoff for that promo

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
I wouldn't buy the PPV that sounds boring but I'd be searching extra hard for Billy interviews 2 weeks before the show.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Chris James 2 posted:

If Billy gives himself the belt, I will sincerely think about buying the immediate next PPV. Bonus if it's him defending against Cardona as payoff for that promo

In a perfect world, Cardona will come out accompanied by Nick Cave with a live mic making fun of Billy Corgan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X1LThFfA8U

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

The funny thing is I watched this full segment on YouTube and the full thing is even worse

I swear it is all over the goddamn place who is a heel and who is a face, and Billy's delivery is what it is, and the entire thing is just so, so bad

MassRafTer posted:

https://twitter.com/HuSTLer314STL/status/1719734022513799561

If someone wants to brave PWI to confirm feel free but this is in line with the last numbers we got when people made fun of Empower doing 3,500 buys. The full roster PPVs after that did ~350.

Would this be the first time ever that a "major" promotion, at least in terms of brand name, had more IRL attendees than theoretically worldwide buys?

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

I think I need to watch that show.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Edit: misremembered

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

https://twitter.com/ConfirmedShoot/status/1720875044916654179

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Cocaine spot?

Tampa Bae
Aug 23, 2021

Please, this is all I have
I want to see what their idea of "flooded with social media posts over the cocaine spot" means because there couldn't have been more than 3 people complaining about it

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
You can find the full article here there's a lot of funny notes.

The funniest is that Billy Corgan self financed the reality show, the NWA will receive no money for it and the CW is keeping the ad sales. The CW is mainly interested in getting the rights to air Billy Corgan's wedding as part of the deal and that's why they agreed to air Powerrr. So as anyone with a brain saw, this deal was very funny without the cocaine spot.

The spot:
https://twitter.com/orangecrushart/status/1718752090229551571

JUNGLE BOY
Sep 23, 2019

NWA should bring in Scorch as a manager

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
It's fun to look at that spot and being able to tell who's done coke before and who's not

syzpid
Aug 9, 2014
A wrestler I follow does the occasional NWA show since they are in Georgia. They sometimes share the next episode of Powerrr, and I had to say something. They are having 4 matches with title holders but 3 of them are non title. Only Max is defending their Title. I don't think i have seen a card before with 3 non title matches. WTF?

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
With NXT going to the CW there's lots of theories flying, did WWE stooge off the cocaine spot to gently caress the deal (seems unlikely and WWE was probably in negotiations for more than a few weeks) will the NWA still be on the CW, etc.

This is my favorite theory:

https://twitter.com/Hanzi83/status/1722006504545390847

I don't care about any facts, I now believe Billy Corgan demanded that spot to make it seem like his promotion was too edgy to be on TV.

bartok
May 10, 2006



What was the storyline reason why the Sinister Minister James Mitchell was snorting coke on camera during an NWA PPV?

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
Billy Pumpkins never disappoints

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3d1HrBH5DM

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


For however entertaining it can be onscreen, wrestling definitely keeps finding ways to prove why it's one of a kind off it :rubby:

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Haus of Wrestling with a long article on fallout from the CW deal and other problems and then and incredibly long EC3 response to complaints from other talent.

https://www.hausofwrestling.com/202...rship-exclusive

The high points:

-WWE was in negotiations with CW before Samhain but negotiations picked up after
-Billy Corgan withdrew and did not want to discuss the situation yesterday
-Some talent feel Billy is hard to get in touch with unless it is the day of the show due to his Pumpkins commitments
-Billy handles contracts and creative, Pat Kenney acts as his Johnny Ace
-Billy gives talent "tests" to prove their loyalty such as jobbing out popular acts or being overly critical to see how they take it
-Older talent less likely to receive contracts than younger talent because he wants in on the ground floor

https://twitter.com/Nick_Hausman/status/1722321437313188131

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
EC3's response screed is quite a thing

quote:

Haus of Wrestling reached out to NWA Worlds Heavyweight Champion EC3 for his thoughts on what we were hearing and were sent the following response, which he has requested we print in full. For clarification, the first point he made was regarding me apologizing for contacting him later than I said I would because I was walking my dog, Willow.

1) no apology necessary

2) This has never been communicated to me via talent or otherwise, and I communicate with all. A truly professional wrestler should be prepared for anything at anytime. They should be able to perform based on whatever opportunity is provided. “Plans in advance” OFTEN change.
There isn’t one wrestling company that this isn’t the case for.

While sometimes knowing in advance can be beneficial, perhaps in envisioning long form character arc and story told, a lot of the best moments and actions come when capable talent are put on the spot and trust their skills and intuition in the moments.

The day of the show provides AMPLE time if a talent requires to verbatim script a promo or “put together a match.” Neither should take long especially if/when a talent is confident in character, work, and ability.

Personally, I prefer to have a direction, then allowed the open canvas to create how I achieve that direction. I know WHO I AM and WHERE I WANT TO GO. I think others should trust themselves to do the same. It’s how good stories are told.

EX: Tonight on NWA POWERRR (6:05) I have a promo segment that I was informed of day of the show. I was given the destination that is taking us. I conversed with the talent involved on their goals and mission and end business for the segment. Then I had 5 hours till it was filmed. I was pleased with how it turned out.

By being present in the moment, you are always prepared for anything.

Continued in a moment have to do something

2) infrastructure is great and required on all facets of a growing business. Infrastructure is more imperative on a BUSINESS END than a CREATIVE END.

True creativity is a collaboration, and talents should be absolutely thankful they have freedom to explore as creatives because before they know it, they will work their asses off to one day maybe get an opportunity to BE A MUTE.

I don’t know what facets of growth are being held up that we would require a bakers dozens of low level Hollywood writers who have never seen wrestling, never been in a fight for anything, or never had an experience in athletic victory/defeat.

If it’s about promotional material or who is “being pushed” it’s not rocket science on who that is, but it’s also a HUGE OPPORTUNITY for a talent who might not be, to put themselves out there, show why they are special, and capture that. Simply by utilizing the team we have, from socials, to peers, a talent can send a promo to the team, get it aired. A talent can try an idea they have, film it, it can air. A talent can EASILY (and this is rare) TALK TO THE BOSS and pitch ideas.

I watched our boss sit and listen to a bunch of promos from extras (who don’t really have a shot), watch a bunch of practice matches from extras (who aren’t TV ready) and offer that to all.

Just because a talent is there, and semi being utilized, doesn’t mean anything is handed. Entitlement and complacency will have them, what, Anonymously bitching to the internet?

Post a seminar I did, I spent hours discussing non contracted talents with WPC so we can provide them legitimate feedback, again, even if they aren’t close to TV ready.

Why? Because we love this and share the same ideals that people deserve opportunity and the truth. I don’t think people understand the rarity of a boss who would put that time in. Took me a long time to find one.

Again, back to creative, I’d prefer one’s overall vision accompanied by a handful of trusted, experienced, smart “wrestling people” to see it through.

Again though, hindsight 20/20 sometimes there can be too much freedom and people do dumb things.

I hope that answer was sufficient.

4) I know only my business, and my business alone as far as contracts and older talent etc. I’m very happy with mine as I get to represent and grow the brand, while also challenge myself with other creative endeavors in wrestling and beyond. While NWA is my home, I can spread our, and my own, brand on multiple fronts.

This industry is a constant test. Being “frustrated by tests” is, just, something I’d never say or complain about (to the internet.) If I am challenged to do something, in lieu of frustrated complaining, I’d channel that frustration to take whatever test I’ve been given, and get better by accepting the challenge. Even if it’s just a “F-U” to the person who put me through it.

It’s not “gaining approval.” It’s showing competency and will. It’s showing you want it. It’s showing you have value. It’s showing you’re worth investing in.

If that’s too much, don’t come. I have countless people reaching out to me daily trying to get in.

And also, as I’ve said to the locker room before, I am ALWAYS AVAILABLE if anyone ever wants to or needs to have a conversation. I don’t know if I’ll be right, but I will give my best effort and opinion in complete confidence.

Four things - there is no point 3. If you have a problem with that, meet me in the Rant Room

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe
All that is nice but what does EC3 think about big seasoning

Dr. Zoggle
Aug 12, 2006
Go Blue!


remember to add ALL CAPS to random words if you really want to add SEASONING to your post about YOUR DUMBASS BOSS not being a piece of poo poo

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




https://twitter.com/weekendateffys/status/1724541957832110449

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Their production is horrible, they will sometimes just air PPV matches and recaps instead of filming new shows, or air really horrible footage from Pumpkins concerts instead of doing tapings. I'm excited to see it get worse.

https://twitter.com/WrestlingHaus/status/1725217444623761560

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

MassRafTer posted:

Their production is horrible, they will sometimes just air PPV matches and recaps instead of filming new shows, or air really horrible footage from Pumpkins concerts instead of doing tapings. I'm excited to see it get worse.

https://twitter.com/WrestlingHaus/status/1725217444623761560

Why didn't anyone ever tell me Billy Pumpkins looked like Karl Pilkington?

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

1glitch0 posted:

Why didn't anyone ever tell me Billy Pumpkins looked like Karl Pilkington?

Not sure who either of those people are so that's why I didn't tell you.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
https://twitter.com/Fightful/status/1725590491171901526

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
NWA's budget is so small that they did the old TNA turkey suit match but couldn't afford a suit so they had to use a turkey hat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Liz0CAagY48

Completely awful match but I've seen so much worse in the NWA this year. Also they made the incredible choice of putting their few fans underneath the hard cam and never ever shooting them with the ringside cameras to make the show look even weirder.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

MassRafTer posted:

NWA's budget is so small that they did the old TNA turkey suit match but couldn't afford a suit so they had to use a turkey hat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Liz0CAagY48

Completely awful match but I've seen so much worse in the NWA this year. Also they made the incredible choice of putting their few fans underneath the hard cam and never ever shooting them with the ringside cameras to make the show look even weirder.

How the hell can Billy S. Pumpkins not afford a turkey suit.

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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


He puts his budget towards his concerts and has nothing left over for the wrestling show

Honestly probably the smart choice

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