Altitude sickness is not real! (Bioshock Infinite)

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inscrutable horse: May 20, 2010; Parsing sage, rotating time

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code:

* 1 can of beans		  439 calories
* 4 pears  			  404 calories
* 6 apples			  570 calories
* 4 bananas			  420 calories
* 1 bag of potato chips		  531 calories
* 11 bottles of soda (33 cl)	 1529 calories
* 2 bags of popcorn		  840 calories
* 6 hotdogs			 1896 calories
* 1 loaf of bread		 1278 calories
* 3 cotton candy		  306 calories
* 1 chocolate cake		 3392 calories
* 1 bottle of "red"wine		  625 calories
* 1 flask of "bourbon"		  582 calories
* 1 bag of peanuts		  680 calories
* 4 bars of chocolate		 4600 calories
* 3 cups of coffee		    3 calories
* 2 sandwiches			 1098 calories
* 1 pineapple			  452 calories
* 2 oranges			  172 calories
* 1 bottle of whiskey		 1517 calories
______________________________________
Sub-total			21334 calories
Episode 2 total			54755 calories
Episode 1 total			 2918 calories
Total				79007 calories

I thought the episode started a bit slow, but it was obviously a case of good things coming to those who wait. I was kinda horrified by the astonishing amount of sodas Booker hoovered up, which lead me to this little titbit: "ACS researchers have found that the LD50 of sugar � that's the lethal dose of a sugar that would kill half the population of a test group � is 13.5 grams per pound of body weight, consumed all at once." Which does make me wonder how close Booker is to that limit, or if he hasn't passed it already.

# ? Mar 29, 2021 19:31

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# ? May 5, 2024 06:16

Captain Hygiene: Sep 17, 2007; You mess with the crabbo...

inscrutable horse posted:

I thought the episode started a bit slow, but it was obviously a case of good things coming to those who wait. I was kinda horrified by the astonishing amount of sodas Booker hoovered up, which lead me to this little titbit: "ACS researchers have found that the LD50 of sugar – that's the lethal dose of a sugar that would kill half the population of a test group – is 13.5 grams per pound of body weight, consumed all at once." Which does make me wonder how close Booker is to that limit, or if he hasn't passed it already.

He's saved by them being pretty small bottles, it adds up to about 3.6 liters. Using Mountain Dew (The Sugariest Soda^TM) as my estimator:

He'll be alive even chugging them all at once. He may not feel so great, but it's a far cry from the lethal dose of 2700 grams assuming he weighs 200 lb.

e: that's a lotta salt :aaaaa:

# ? Mar 29, 2021 20:28

Foxfire_: Nov 8, 2010

Not that much salt since it's also about a full day of calories. 27% of daily salt limit in 87% of daily calories.

Mountain Dew: A Low Sodium Diet (tm)

# ? Mar 29, 2021 22:30

Captain Hygiene: Sep 17, 2007; You mess with the crabbo...

Oh yeah, I just would not have guessed even a notable fraction of the daily amount from soda of all things.

# ? Mar 29, 2021 22:49

im saint germain: Jan 30, 2021; i've come from the future to tell you all we have to stop party rock before it returns

I wonder if those sodas are caffeinated--if so, maybe he could overdose from that.

# ? Mar 31, 2021 04:50

Unreal_One: Aug 18, 2010; Now you know how I don't like to use the sit-down gun, but this morning we just don't have time for mucking about.

im saint germain posted:

I wonder if those sodas are caffeinated--if so, maybe he could overdose from that.

Even if they're Mtn Dew level caffeinated, you need at least 1 bottle/kg of Booker to get into the lowest lethal value reported, 3-4 bottles to get into ld50 levels.

# ? Mar 31, 2021 05:32

White Coke: May 29, 2015

How many calories do the vigors use? They could explain why Booker needs to eat entire cheese wheels, knife and all.

Something else that occurred to me was, have they mentioned Jesus at all? God has gotten mentioned a few times, much less than the prophet but I don�t think Christ has gotten mentioned by anyone in Columbia.

# ? Apr 2, 2021 00:17

DreadUnknown: Nov 4, 2020; Bird is the word.

Booker must be related to Corvo, they both stuff their maws with everything they see, cans and all.

# ? Apr 2, 2021 01:33

im saint germain: Jan 30, 2021; i've come from the future to tell you all we have to stop party rock before it returns

White Coke posted:

How many calories do the vigors use? They could explain why Booker needs to eat entire cheese wheels, knife and all.

Something else that occurred to me was, have they mentioned Jesus at all? God has gotten mentioned a few times, much less than the prophet but I don�t think Christ has gotten mentioned by anyone in Columbia.

That may be because Jesus would complicate the phony trinity the game pushes as it goes on. On the other hand, cutting God out wouldn't work as well, since then it'd just be a really obvious cult, instead of a Christianity-coopting one.

# ? Apr 2, 2021 03:12

marshmallow creep: Dec 10, 2008; I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

They've mentioned the Lamb multiple times, so they have basically replaced Jesus in the cult while using some of his iconography. Basically, you don't need the original Jesus, because we got New Jesus in the tower.

"Mom, can I have Jesus?"
"We got Jesus at home."

# ? Apr 2, 2021 03:47

sb hermit: Dec 13, 2016

I think it's a bit more subtle. Comstock is simply The Prophet, and Columbia's religion is based on seeing him as divinely ordained (in the protestant Christian faith) as such. In as much as Christianity tends to extol the teachings of Jesus (and the New Testament) more than older parts of the bible, you can see this as a natural progression as such, where Comstock is simply getting a lot more focus in Columbua. He is definitely not replacing Jesus.

At least, this is how I see it. The theology in this game is only surface deep, from what I can remember.

# ? Apr 2, 2021 04:41

Kangra: May 7, 2012

It stops just shy of being a direct criticism of Mormonism, but I can almost believe that aspect was unintentional.

In much the same way that the racism only pops up when specifically written in and isn't shown as integral to the society, the religion is treated the same way. I think the very first pilgrim you talk to might be the only person who seems to be genuine. Nobody else in the city seems to actually have any convictions.

# ? Apr 2, 2021 07:26

Hel: Oct 9, 2012; Jokatgulm is tedium.
Jokatgulm is pain.
Jokatgulm is suffering.

I feel like if you are going to have racism in your game you really need to try and avoid it ending up just shoving more racism into the faces of people who already suffer from it in their daily lives.

Also i finally listened to the podcast, it's pretty interesting. Did anyone offer to translate "Japanska Krigspelet" yet? Otherwise i could give it a go, assuming it's this one : https://www.doria.fi/handle/10024/157035

# ? Apr 2, 2021 09:20

sb hermit: Dec 13, 2016

Kangra posted:

It stops just shy of being a direct criticism of Mormonism, but I can almost believe that aspect was unintentional.

In much the same way that the racism only pops up when specifically written in and isn't shown as integral to the society, the religion is treated the same way. I think the very first pilgrim you talk to might be the only person who seems to be genuine. Nobody else in the city seems to actually have any convictions.

I didn't want to directly make comparisons between Columbia's religion and, say, Mormons and Muslims, since I don't know enough about their respective religions to make a defensible statement, so I didn't mention it in my post. I agree that it doesn't attempt to criticize but it certainly draws parallels.

There's more that I want to write but it'll have to wait until more of the background is established.

# ? Apr 2, 2021 18:42

SelenicMartian: Sep 14, 2013; Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

First we put on pants with ghosts in them, and then it all gets silly.

# ? Apr 5, 2021 15:46

inscrutable horse: May 20, 2010; Parsing sage, rotating time

code:

* 2 cans of beans		   878 calories
* 5 boxes of cereal		  9165 calories
* 2 pears  			   202 calories
* 6 apples			   570 calories
* 1 bag of potato chips		   531 calories
* 6 bottles of soda (33 cl)	   834 calories
* 2 hotdogs			   632 calories
* 2 cotton candy		   204 calories
* 4 bottles of "red"wine	  2500 calories
* 1 flask of "bourbon"		   582 calories
* 2 flasks of coffee		    10 calories
* 1 bar of chocolate		  1150 calories
* 1 sandwich			   549 calories
* 2 pineapples			   904 calories
* 4 oranges			   344 calories
* 5 bottles of whiskey		  7585 calories
* 5 bottles of beer		   760 calories
______________________________________
Sub-total			 27400 calories
Episode 3 total			 21334 calories
Episode 2 total			 54755 calories
Episode 1 total			  2918 calories
Total				106407 calories

As Booker's unofficial, unlicensed, amateur nutritionist, I find it concerting that his alcohol intake has increased dramatically lately. Equally distressing is his newfound and unbridled habit of drinking brine by the crate-load; all that sodium can't be healthy! On the plus side, it's good to see him eat a variety of fruit on a regular basis. Overall, he's still grossly over-eating, and no amount of exercise will counteract this.

# ? Apr 5, 2021 20:17

Captain Hygiene: Sep 17, 2007; You mess with the crabbo...

I need a mod that makes Booker's belly slowly expand into your lower field of view when you look down over the course of the game.

# ? Apr 5, 2021 20:27

marshmallow creep: Dec 10, 2008; I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

A separate ledger for all the alcohol Booker is consuming. He processes it drat fast though. He is blind after three drinks and ready to go with 30 seconds. His liver is Herculean.

# ? Apr 5, 2021 20:59

Kangra: May 7, 2012

He was a citizen of Columbia who was also a 'progressive', he was surely chock full of remorse already.

# ? Apr 5, 2021 22:50

NGDBSS: Dec 30, 2009

For all we know Booker may have one of those really pronounced cases of polyphagia that were recorded with :nws:

Tarrare or Charles Domery.

# ? Apr 5, 2021 23:06

Akratic Method: Mar 9, 2013; It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

So was the "progressive" just lying and waiting for you to turn around so he could hit you with that rear end-bat? Or was he really a civilian?

# ? Apr 6, 2021 01:56

Space Kablooey: May 6, 2009

NGDBSS posted:

For all we know Booker may have one of those really pronounced cases of polyphagia that were recorded with Tarrare or Charles Domery.

Maybe that's why Booker is in debt, he's struggling to pay his restaurant bills

# ? Apr 6, 2021 16:27

White Coke: May 29, 2015

Kangra posted:

It stops just shy of being a direct criticism of Mormonism, but I can almost believe that aspect was unintentional.

In much the same way that the racism only pops up when specifically written in and isn't shown as integral to the society, the religion is treated the same way. I think the very first pilgrim you talk to might be the only person who seems to be genuine. Nobody else in the city seems to actually have any convictions.

People say the aesthetics of this game are like Disneyland, but it really is like a theme park, where you see get your social commentary set pieces and that�s it.

FLDS using a flying city to travel around the world collecting wives would be an interesting premise for a game.

# ? Apr 6, 2021 20:34

Maigius: Jun 29, 2013

Nobody in Columbia cleans their toilets. They were really gross looking

# ? Apr 6, 2021 21:05

im saint germain: Jan 30, 2021; i've come from the future to tell you all we have to stop party rock before it returns

Maigius posted:

Nobody in Columbia cleans their toilets. They were really gross looking

They had to ban scrubbing bubbles from Columbia because ne'er-do-well children kept dumping it into the baptismal pond/drain/sole entrance to a floating city(??? such a stupid idea)

# ? Apr 7, 2021 03:56

im saint germain: Jan 30, 2021; i've come from the future to tell you all we have to stop party rock before it returns

"C'mon Father, wrap up the sermon and move on to the next guy, I gotta get flushed back into town before my 10AM shift starts"

# ? Apr 7, 2021 03:57

SelenicMartian: Sep 14, 2013; Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

They have the best birds in Columbia.

# ? Apr 12, 2021 15:17

inscrutable horse: May 20, 2010; Parsing sage, rotating time

code:

* 2 boxes of cereal		  3666 calories
* 2 pears  			   202 calories
* 3 apples			   285 calories
* 2 bananas			   210 calories
* 5 bottles of soda (33 cl)	   695 calories
* 3 hotdogs			   948 calories
* 1 cotton candy		   102 calories
* 10 bottles of "red"wine	  6250 calories
* 1 flask of "bourbon"		   582 calories
* 1 bar of chocolate		  1150 calories
* 8 cups of coffee		     8 calories
* 1 pineapple			   452 calories
* 4 oranges			   344 calories
* 1 bottle of whiskey		  1517 calories
_______________________________________________
Sub-total 			 16411 calories
Episode 4 total			 27400 calories
Episode 3 total			 21334 calories
Episode 2 total			 54755 calories
Episode 1 total			  2918 calories
Total				122818 calories

I always wonder if I should count the white oats with the cereals, if it doesn't skew the numbers unfairly. But then Booker sucks down a crate of wine like a vacuum cleaner, and I realize that in the small scheme of things, let alone the grand one, it doesn't make any difference.

# ? Apr 12, 2021 16:32

marshmallow creep: Dec 10, 2008; I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Hammering 4 flasks of bourbon (8 oz each is typical, 49% ABV), our boy has consumed approximately 27.2 "drinks" of alcohol.

With the wine, he's consumed 16 bottles I think? That's typically 750 ml and 13.5% ABV, or 95.01 "drinks" of alcohol. The calculator threw an exception because the number of ml was too big.

So that's 122.21 drinks since he stepped into Columbia. Impairment begins at or around .08%, and death is likely at .3%. According to this calculator and some reasonable assumptions, our boy is at 3.24%, or a bit more than 10 times the lethal level.

"Bioshock Infinite: Alcohol poisoning is not real!"

# ? Apr 12, 2021 20:16

Akratic Method: Mar 9, 2013; It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

He'll probably hit the LD50 for even caffeine by the end of the LP, honestly.

edit: Pretty sure the subjects of worship were Washington, Franklin, and Jefferson. Not sure how your grasp of US history is but they were all from the same time period, the very start of the country, and Lincoln was quite a bit later. Given Columbia is basically the worst racist paleoconservatives it tracks pretty well that they love the ~*founding fathers*~ who have been dead long enough to pretend they loved the same stuff without them arguing, and hate the guy that beat the Confederacy and ended slavery.

Akratic Method fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Apr 12, 2021

# ? Apr 12, 2021 20:27

NGDBSS: Dec 30, 2009

Nonsense, I remember playing Beerquest on my TI-83 back in high school and that taught me that more alcohol is always better!

gently caress, graphing calculator video games were the nerdiest possible genre. How much use do they still get these days?

# ? Apr 12, 2021 20:44

inscrutable horse: May 20, 2010; Parsing sage, rotating time

I'm just as impressed by his champion bladder control as with his cast-iron liver.Looking at my spreadsheet, Booker has hoovered down:

16 bottles of wine (750 ml)
7 bottles of whisky (700 ml)
5 bottles of beer (330 ml) and
4 flasks of "bourbon" (236 ml)

The spreadsheet also reveals that his "favourite" food is apples (21 consumed), his favourite drink is soda (28), his least favourite foods are sardines and pickles (1 each), and his least favourite drink is "bourbon" (4)

# ? Apr 12, 2021 20:44

im saint germain: Jan 30, 2021; i've come from the future to tell you all we have to stop party rock before it returns

I knew it!!!

edit: whoops quoted the wrong post lol whatever. I just wanna see Booker consume enough stuff to die five times over

# ? Apr 13, 2021 02:52

Captain Hygiene: Sep 17, 2007; You mess with the crabbo...

Bioshock Infinite Ingest

# ? Apr 13, 2021 02:54

Kangra: May 7, 2012

Now it makes sense. Booker is burning a whole lot of calories toting all that loose change around.

# ? Apr 13, 2021 02:57

Kibayasu: Mar 28, 2010

I had forgotten all about bird poop house.

# ? Apr 13, 2021 16:26

SelenicMartian: Sep 14, 2013; Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

What's your favourite combination of Hair, Blood, and Nails?

BONUS CLIP

# ? Apr 19, 2021 14:29

Akratic Method: Mar 9, 2013; It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

Impressive morale on these troops. If I shot a man in the gut and he told me to piss off then went on with watching a movie I might pause to reassess whether I was truly equipped for that fight.

# ? Apr 19, 2021 15:25

Cythereal: Nov 8, 2009; I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

SelenicMartian posted:

They have the best birds in Columbia.

Did they have to put what sure as hell sounds like 'threatening to rape a woman is treated as a joke' in the game, with the thinnest possible veneer of 'We swear we weren't talking about rape!' in the game?

This game is blindingly tone-deaf and even makes leaning on the fourth wall feel obnoxious rather than funny, so I can guess, but still.

# ? Apr 19, 2021 15:51

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# ? May 5, 2024 06:16

Space Kablooey: May 6, 2009

SelenicMartian posted:

What's your favourite combination of Hair, Blood, and Nails?

I'm going to pick neither.

# ? Apr 19, 2021 15:55

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