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e: God damnit, update on previous pagecode:As for coffee, according to my spreadsheet, Booker has had the equivalent of 46 cups of coffee. I'm guessing he's got quite the caffeine buzz going.
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inscrutable horse posted:As for coffee, according to my spreadsheet, Booker has had the equivalent of 46 cups of coffee. I'm guessing he's got quite the caffeine buzz going.  He's probably right in that bullet time sweet spot, but he should probably start backing off a bit with the amount of game left.
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Apr 19, 2021 18:56
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Elizabeth is one of the few things I've heard much about regarding this game. Specifically, as noted in the video, that she's a Disney princess. Is she a tough, badass young woman? A damsel in distress who needs a male figure to do anything? A superpowered weapon of mass destruction? Why, she's any or all of those, whatever the plot needs right this second! Specifically she popped up in a 'The most misogynistic video games that want you to think they're feminist and progressive' article from a few years back, IIRC.
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Apr 19, 2021 19:33
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Oh this is interesting to me. I thought that the impression of Elizabeth was a generally positive one and I assumed this was the case still after all these years. I was looking forward for finally having Elizabeth towing along in the lp, but now I'm actually interested in knowing exactly how they screwed up her character.
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Apr 19, 2021 20:27
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As a further point of curiosity, there's 7700 kcal in one kg of bodyfat. So if Booker's insatiable appetite goes straight on to his body, he's gained 19 kilos since the start of the LP.
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Apr 19, 2021 20:59
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Space Kablooey posted:Oh this is interesting to me. I thought that the impression of Elizabeth was a generally positive one and I assumed this was the case still after all these years. Imagine Belle from Beauty and the Beast pouting at you when you exploded people's heads.
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Apr 19, 2021 21:02
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inscrutable horse posted:As a further point of curiosity, there's 7700 kcal in one kg of bodyfat. So if Booker's insatiable appetite goes straight on to his body, he's gained 19 kilos since the start of the LP. This is probably for the best; if he continues increasing his weight quickly enough, he can avoid reaching the LD50 of caffeine and other consumed substances.
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Apr 19, 2021 21:04
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While she is helping you blow said people's heads
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Apr 19, 2021 21:05
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Fedule posted:This is probably for the best; if he continues increasing his weight quickly enough, he can avoid reaching the LD50 of caffeine and other consumed substances. Certainly a novel survival strategy, staving off death by increased bodymass.
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Apr 19, 2021 21:10
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I've been thinking all along, this whole game is basically Crank except with calories instead of adrenaline.
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Apr 19, 2021 21:18
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Man, it really hits home in Elizabeth's intro how disappointing a lot of the writing and design turn out to be, I think the core sci-fi concept at the heart of the game is rad as hell and leads to a ton of interesting touches about the setting. There's a real good game idea buried in there, it's just a shame that what we got in practice was so much half-baked writing and commentary alongside pretty repetitive gameplay.
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Apr 20, 2021 03:00
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By the way try not to think about how heavy water actually is.
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Apr 20, 2021 03:54
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I know this is low on the priority list, but if most of Monument Island is abandoned, how does Elizabeth get sent food? That bird robot?
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Apr 20, 2021 04:37
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Dinner platter strapped to a rocket chair.
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Maigius posted:I know this is low on the priority list, but if most of Monument Island is abandoned, how does Elizabeth get sent food? That bird robot? Her food is the bird robots. She eats three a day
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Apr 20, 2021 05:29
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According to the papers on the loading screen today (yesterday for most of you) was Booker's birthday, so Happy Birthday, Mr. DeWitt. Go ahead and eat all you want!
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Apr 20, 2021 06:14
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You say that as if he wasn't going to do that already.
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Maigius posted:I know this is low on the priority list, but if most of Monument Island is abandoned, how does Elizabeth get sent food? That bird robot? She opens a tear to a cake shop and grabs food.
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I wonder how hot Booker is? He hasn't slowed down since he started his culinary adventure, so it doesn't seem like he's gained any appreciably weight. Seems to me, then, that he must be catabolising it all at a fantastic rate, and seeing as his weight is (maybe) staying the same, the product must be heat. Is there some sort of calculator for this?
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Space Kablooey posted:Oh this is interesting to me. I thought that the impression of Elizabeth was a generally positive one and I assumed this was the case still after all these years. If I remember the article right, it's something along the lines of 'The plot revolves around Elizabeth but it's never about her - it's always about the men in her life, and her relationships with all of them are explicitly or implicitly abusive and/or exploitative.' That despite all her power, she's just a plot device for the character growth of other [exclusively male] characters and has no agency or even importance in her own right, she only matters insofar as she matters to male characters. Disney Princess Syndrome, again.
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Cythereal posted:If I remember the article right, it's something along the lines of 'The plot revolves around Elizabeth but it's never about her - it's always about the men in her life, and her relationships with all of them are explicitly or implicitly abusive and/or exploitative.' That despite all her power, she's just a plot device for the character growth of other [exclusively male] characters and has no agency or even importance in her own right, she only matters insofar as she matters to male characters. Yes- also referred to as the "Dadification of Games," the process of making the player care about your story by giving the grizzled male protagonist a young innocent female child, with no real agency or importance in the story except to give the player something to be heroic about. The Last of Us and The Walking Dead are the other really famous game series that fall into this trope. I don't think I'd mind this so much if the toxic nature of this bond were ever seriously explored or deconstructed... or if the writers using it knew when to stop using it and let the "princesses" develop into their own characters with their own agencies, methods, and goals, instead of just making them into their dads. Like, to the letter, in every way that matters except gender.
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Captain Hygiene posted:
I'm about 200 lbs and drink 4-6 cups of coffee on most days and now I'm getting worried
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One of the first tips you get after Elizabeth joins is that you don't have to protect her in a fight. After playing scores of games where you spend your time looking after your teammates (Last of Us, Daikatana, WoW, Star Fox) this got an audible sigh of relief when I saw it.Cythereal posted:Elizabeth is one of the few things I've heard much about regarding this game. Specifically, as noted in the video, that she's a Disney princess. Is she a tough, badass young woman? A damsel in distress who needs a male figure to do anything? A superpowered weapon of mass destruction? This seems true for Last of Us. But I think it's a bit more nuanced in Bioshock Infinite. Yes, the protagonist certainly frees Elizabeth and takes an initial leadership and dad role. But I'll save my future commentary for later. The nature of of the medium (computer games) certainly does not help.
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It's lost to time as far as I know but there was a Tim Rogers review of Bioshock Infinite (wordcount: 21,000) which among other observations speculated that Elizabeth's invulnerability was a late-undertaken decision following years of failed attempts to have a version with a vulnerable Elizabeth not be garbage to play. It was a very good review. Two chapters of it were just analysing the box art. E: Unrelatedly, I love the complete lack of any correlation between the size of a pile of money and the number of coins in it. The vending machines look like they spill out a whole bunch of coins from being hit with Possession but it's usually only like 5 per machine. Meanwhile, an individual coin on one of the trams was actually worth seven. Fedule fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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sb hermit posted:I'm about 200 lbs and drink 4-6 cups of coffee on most days and now I'm getting worried A cup can mean a lot of things. But moreover if there's an 2500% difference between 'safe' and 'lethal' I've got my doubts about that calculator.
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:A cup can mean a lot of things. But moreover if there's an 2500% difference between 'safe' and 'lethal' I've got my doubts about that calculator. How dare your impugn the veracity of the first search result for "caffeine lethal dose"
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Regarding the Founders (the term Founding Fathers supposedly being invented by future president Warren G. Harding in 1916) and slavery, they had a very self serving view of it, where they knew they were hypocrites and were embarrassed to own slaves, but they really liked being rich. So they consoled themselves by blaming the British for introducing slavery and forcing upon them the burden of "civilizing" and "caring for" their slaves, but also thought that slavery would die out as it became less economically viable, hopefully after they were dead. And were it not for the cotton gin it might have happened that way since the primary cash crop grown by slaves was tobacco which really depletes the soil. And with the economic revitalization of slavery came stronger defenses of it, not as a necessary evil that will pass away but a moral and political force for good to be expanded as far as possible. The first seven states that seceded and formed the CSA were the ones that could grow cotton widely, the four that joined them were dependent on selling off excess slaves since the international slave trade was banned, and the slave states that stayed in the Union had much smaller numbers of slaves both in absolute numbers and as percentages of the population (and if you retroactively count West Virginia then none of the states that seceded bordered a free state). What someone in 1912 thought the Founders thought about slavery I don't know though.
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Apr 21, 2021 06:04
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I guess the cake isn't a lie after all.
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So all the water just keeps falling off the edge of the beach? No wonder pretty much nobody is in the water, the current must the wicked strong.
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All that water would be sooo heavy, it's a wonder they got it to float. Also I don't see any waves, so I'm wondering on the point of renting surf boards.
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Maigius posted:All that water would be sooo heavy, it's a wonder they got it to float. Also I don't see any waves, so I'm wondering on the point of renting surf boards. They address the weight issue in one of the recordings when they talk about the "science" behind making the city float.
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So I haven't had the time yet to futz around with the forum's BBcode to set up my usual table, but Booker was one cheese wheel away this time from breaking his previous record.
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Space Kablooey posted:So all the water just keeps falling off the edge of the beach? No wonder pretty much nobody is in the water, the current must the wicked strong. Maigius posted:All that water would be sooo heavy, it's a wonder they got it to float. Also I don't see any waves, so I'm wondering on the point of renting surf boards. They call it 'surf board rental' as a euphemism for 'suicide booth'.
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The guy sitting in the lifeguard tower, not lifeguarding, might be the only reasonable person so far. You probably don't see whoever he was looking at because they already flowed off the edge. It makes no sense that the water falling off the edge never either stops overflowing at some point or drains entirely. The only thing that would explain it is water being pumped up from the beach floor, but then you'd see the streams bubbling up. You'd think they'd get the city of floating islands to be at least a bit more realistic than the highly-pressurized-underwater-town when it came to physics, but I guess the rocket to the city at the beginning says it all
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I do love that sequence where the extremely obvious undercover agents are trying their best to pretend they are Perfectly Ordinary Citizens.
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Near the end of the video, did you drink a bottle of champagne and two bottles of gin without getting drunk at all? Booker isn't just gaining a tolerance... Booker is... changing...
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Judge Tesla posted:I do love that sequence where the extremely obvious undercover agents are trying their best to pretend they are Perfectly Ordinary Citizens. Their mistake was doing too much menial labour. And you know if it was just shooting people Booker might have a point to make about how they're going to get out but the shotgun decapitations and skull grinding with the sky rail hook could probably be described as needlessly monstrous.
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 Reality is collapsing in on itself, and Elizabeth opens a door to the Persian Carpets Dimension.
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