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Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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There is a ton of different bike manufacturers, both current and historical which all had their different focuses both in brand itself or in model lines, be it racing, consumer every day transport or niches like off-road desert racing.

I just wanted to make a thread for posting the more out there examples for fun/shaming/discussion.

Like this one



What is it?
That's a Cagiva V-Raptor 1000. Suzuki TL 1000 engine in a package designed by Miguel Angel Galluzzi, same man that designed the ducati monster.


More info about the model can be found here among variable quality of motorbike journalist spiel.
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/cagiva/raptor-1000/2000/
https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/cagiva/cagiva_v%20raptor%201000.htm
https://www.visordown.com/reviews/motorbike/raptor-1000-2000-2006-review

and it was also available as a boring normal naked variant.

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Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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Another nice example, shown on the forums before.

The Aprilia moto 6.5

Designed by Philippe Starck, who have among an insane amount of other stuff designed the lovingly crafted "golden turd"




More info about the bike can be found here
https://www.mcnews.com.au/aprilia-moto-6-5-starck/
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/aprilia/moto-6.5/1995/

Supradog fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Mar 17, 2021

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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Did you know De Tomaso also made bikes?

Bikes with a good number of cylinders?


The Benelli 750 Sei


"During the 1960s and 1970s, de Tomaso acquired a number of Italian industrial holdings. As well as the Ghia and Vignale coachbuilding studios, he earned control of the Benelli and Moto Guzzi motorcycle firms, the Innocenti car company (founded as an offshoot of the British Motor Corporation to build Minis in Italy), and, in 1975, the celebrated sports car maker Maserati, which he rescued from bankruptcy with the assistance of the Italian government. Over time, however, he sold many of his holdings; Ghia was sold to Ford (who would make much use of the name) in 1973; Innocenti and Maserati were sold to Fiat (which closed the former) in 1993."

More info about the bike here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_Sei
https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-italian-motorcycles/benelli-sei-750
https://caferacergarage.eu/benelli-sei-the-first-6-cylinder-motorcycle-story/

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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More rare than wonderful, a 1987 Honda CB350sg

From what I can find out this was originally a south america only model(like the honda nx400 falco) that was gray market imported into the uk like the honda bros, then found its way up here north.
Hard to find actual info about it on the web since the model came and went pre-internet.

I did find the specs which are nothing real special. Air cooled, 6valve parallell twin, about 190KG wet. 17liter tank, 34HP. Commuter/basic transport bike. Mix and match of honda parts used on other bikes from that era.

Interesting dash though, I like the blue contrast on the clocks.


More images in this for sales ad.

Supradog fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Apr 5, 2021

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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THE CHECK PANEL

From a 1980 Suzuki GSX1100ET

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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Kind of in love with the bastard child of the 80s interstate cruisers, the killed by politics Honda GL 650 silver wing. Got upgraded to 650cc to overcome it's 500cc variants shortcomings and tax killed it.

It helps that this little silver nugget is clean and have been cared for.







A one year only model wonder.

More info about the model here
https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_gl650_83.htm

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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A Yamaha xz 550 with an aftermarket round headlight, led indicators and for some strange reason a low side plate?.

Anyways. It's a pretty rare 2 year only good speced bike from the early 80s
v-twin
Water cooled
Shaft drive
213kg wet
17 liter tank
65hp

The major issue is some really finicky first year model carbs. Apperantly very sensitive to fuel quality and any debris or gumming up.
Parts availablity for model specific stuff is also zero. Good luck getting anything for the 2+2-1-2 exhaust.


Looks good though.

Supradog fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Oct 16, 2021

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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One of the last of a dying breed

2 stroke 250cc
V-twin
55 hp
17 liter tank
6 gears
167kg wet
The Aprilia rs250

Street legal variant of their 1993 gp250 winner, minor revisions up to the last road legal ones in 2004. Still produced for race use later apperantly.
Picture is of a 1997 colour way.

Lots of detailed info here

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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SOFT DAMP

(Post your best silly stock logo/bike tech marketing slogan)

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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New fairing text alert. 92 rgv 250.

https://www.finn.no/mc/all/ad.html?finnkode=261739770
More images here(and moon language)

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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More info for the unfamiliar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_RGV250

I'd like to try one sometime. Buy and own and live with? Noope.

250cc vtwin. Between 8000- 11000 it jumps from 30hp to 60hp.

I need a barn for all the misc interesting bikes I wanna own.

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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A little brother bike.
When you had the Yamaha vmax there was also the FZX 750.
In-line 4 from their fz750 with 10 less hp and more midrange. 220kg 85 hp.
Only in freedom land for 2 years as a 700cc version because of taxes. Sold like crap in the us ofc and lived on in euro land for a decade.

Spec urls:
https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_fzx750_86.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_FZX750

It has a funky 140/90 - 15 rear tyre.





Some fan in Norway is selling a pack of 3
More images and moon language here:
https://www.finn.no/mc/all/ad.html?finnkode=297603244

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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I've never seen a remote main/reserve fuel switch on a handlebar before.

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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Its from a Fazer branded 700cc version of the above bike, looks like both versions had that switch.

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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If I understood your concern correctly, given the age of the design I assume its kick start, and some over complicated mechanical solutions was incorporated by the German engineers. Or you need to kick twice to get it to start as it won’t be at t/Bdc on the second kick.

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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Here is an Unicorn. A German engineers fever dream.





Why do I say fever dream?

quote:

Some technical compromises had to be made to accommodate the G450X’s unusual clutch arrangement. One consequence is that the engine's crankshaft rotates backwards instead of forwards, as is typical.

quote:

With the design brief specifying both low weight and the improved handling brought by a longer swingarm, the required space was liberated by moving the multi-plate clutch to the right-hand side of the crankshaft. As a consequence, the clutch basket drives the gearbox, instead of the other way around.

quote:

On enduro bikes made by established competition, the front drive sprocket is located forward of the swingarm pivot, meaning that drive chain tension changes dynamically according to rear suspension movement. In turn, this means the drive chain must always incorporate a certain amount of slack. BMW solved this problem using its Coaxial Traction system, with the front drive sprocket located on the same rotational axis as the swingarm pivot. This is facilitated by the swingarm’s locating shaft running through a hollow gearbox output shaft. This arrangement allows the drive chain to be run with minimal slack (around 5mm, as opposed to the typical 25 to 35mm). This reduces chain lash without danger of overstressing the gearbox output shaft bearings, and reduces overall stress on the gearbox assembly.

Although lighter in overall weight, the engine/gearbox arrangement has some inherent disadvantages. Mounting the clutch assembly on the crankshaft means the clutch rotates approximately three times faster than is typical, and the concentric location of the front drive sprocket and swingarm pivot means that the routine task of front drive sprocket replacement requires removal of the rear swingarm.

All quotes from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_G450X

Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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an update from the youtube channel made for this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp_QR9H1aa4

edit: Slavvy, any local knowledge on this insanity? is he known in aus/nz?

Supradog fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Feb 14, 2024

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Supradog
Sep 1, 2004

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Digging the temp and fuel gauge



From a 1986 Yamaha FZ750.


Choice Quotes from wikipedia about it 80s race tech.

quote:

The FZ750 uses an all-aluminium, liquid-cooled, transverse-mounted, four-cylinder engine. The complex cylinder head is constructed in two halves, with dual chain-driven overhead camshafts operating 20 valves, 3 inlet and 2 exhaust valves per cylinder.

quote:

The engine width is minimised by placing the starter clutch, alternator, water and oil pump behind the engine and are driven via a secondary shaft.

quote:

An electrical reserve fuel system simulates a conventional fuel reserve by cutting power to the fuel pump when fuel in the tank reaches a certain level, reserve fuel could then be engaged from a switch. In this way the fuel pump never runs dry.

quote:

A variable-resistance gauging system is used to monitor engine oil contents with an associated warning light.


Supradog fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Apr 1, 2024

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