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Angry_Ed: Mar 30, 2010; Grimey Drawer

pieuvre armement posted:

Julian assange has not actually been convicted in a court of law so to avoid semantic arguments let's all agree to refer to him as an alleged big old creep

I have my doubts that someone who said "They are collaborators, they deserve to die" about Afghani civilians helping the US and dumped the private conversations of Turkish citizens with little-to-no redactions of names (and when called on it called the accusers "Edrogan Apologists") is not a creep, but fair enough.

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Angry_Ed: Mar 30, 2010; Grimey Drawer

BougieBitch posted:

Glenn gave them an ultimatum of "let me publish this story or I quit" and they said "bye bitch", which fits my definition of "let him go", not sure what you are working off of here.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-intercept-resigns/

https://theintercept.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-resigns-the-intercept/

Your argument about "unsourced" relies on the same logic as a kid turning in a paper with "wikipedia" as the only thing in the works cited page - if you are stating things as facts without trackable sources, it's unsourced, period. If "wrote an article that didn't meet the standards of sourcing for a paper that he cofounded, and then quit in outrage over 'censorship', then published the article on his personal blog, proving that actually it was just straight up lies and slander" sounds better to you then we can say that, but if anything I think it sounds WORSE - his sources are the political enemies of the subject's father, it would be MORE ethical to write something completely unsourced than to publish an embellished hit piece and treat it as fact

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/article-on-joe-and-hunter-biden-censored

Let's take it from the very top - who is able to corroborate that the emails were from Hunter Biden's laptop? Last I heard, the source of that is Guiliani and some "laptop repair guy" who has no receipts, and yet the very first sentence of his article states that as if it were an undisputed fact.

It's honestly so much more damning when you look closely at it, like a fractal of unjustified outrage and low standards.

Is your complaint here actually just that you might have to Google a phrase like "Glenn Greenwald blog 2005" to find the specific things people are talking about, because the majority of people making posts here are USPOL thread regulars who have already gone through this revolving door like 5 times and saying "okay do it again but slower" is just not interesting.

This is especially funny (or horrifying) considering Glenn Greenwald used William Barr's hacked together summary of the Mueller Report as a reason that he was totally right that Russia Did Nothing Wrong and Trump was Unfairly Persecuted. Apparently the US Intel apparatus is good when it produces a result he agrees with (even though that result was not what Barr said it was)

Quotey posted:

There's also things like the Pentagon Papers, Sony emails, DNC/Podesta emails- all reported on in mainstream press.

Weird how you'd omit the Panama Papers from this list :thunk:

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Angry_Ed: Mar 30, 2010; Grimey Drawer

FlamingLiberal posted:

Interesting that Glenn keeps doing the same kinds of things as right-wingers

I distinctly remember that guy getting harassed by RW You-Tubers for being gay and while the platform temporarily suspended those people (eventually), they weren't banned

Now Glenn is going after him from a different angle

also who gives a poo poo if someone has leftist views that had rich parents? I'm sure there are plenty of them.

How can they be for socialism if they themselves are made from capital :hurr:

- Glenn Greenwald

Also he said Tucker Carlson is a socialist so I guess socialism is bad today but will be good again next time he's on Tucker's show.

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Angry_Ed: Mar 30, 2010; Grimey Drawer

Sanguinia posted:

If you lend credibility to fascists and their platforms and their agenda in order to maintain your principles in Liberal values, you are a charlatan because those values in incompatible with the people who you're giving credibility to. Glenn is not some bastion of leftist ideals, he's a hack. He lauds and befriends open white supremacists and actual nazis while attacking Liberals and even actual Leftists, that is not principled criticism, its an agenda. He has leftist credibility and he uses it to empower the worst human beings in the world, including people who want him dead for being gay.

That's why I say Glen is a nazi. Not for rhetorical flourish, not for a gag. He uses power from whatever source he can get it completely cynically to increase his own power and wealth and to attack people he deems lesser than himself for being outsiders to his ideology. That's fascism.

Also he defending the 1/6 Insurrectionists and made fun of AOC for being frightened during an actual threat to the life of herself and other congresspeople (to the point he basically called her a liar).

Dude's a loving Nazi (or Nazi-sympathizer) just by that even if we don't get all the way into the weeds on how he ardently defended an entire Nazi hate group and illegally wiretapped witnesses. Or that time he supported the Oath Keepers. Or that time he agreed with Donald Trump that the election was rigged... etc.

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