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Unrelated but lol https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1372604301164613641?s=21 https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1372632832879816705?s=21
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Fighting Trousers posted:Disclaimer: I am not queer, nor have I made more than a passing study of queer history, but it seems like that a big facet of the 90s mainstreaming of gayness centered on "we're just like you, straights, only we love/are attracted to members of the same sex. We are not a threat!" Making gayness non-threatening meant embracing the gender binary. And I think that for a lot of people, being out meant saying "I am gay; I love men" and really latching on to that in a way that made the gender binary almost a necessity. I feel like this kind of thing might go hand in hand with TERFs, certainly gives me White Feminism vibes.
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Beelzebufo posted:There's definitely overlap, and it also includes the weird almost sacrilization of gender. A big one I know is things like saying that someone can't be gay if they are in a relationship with a trans-man. Despite all the claims to gay men having a unique "culture" that is somehow harmed by the inclusion of transmen, at the end of the day it always boils down to whether you suck dicks. It might as well be a cult of penis-worship. I mean, that's patriarchy in a nutshell, the obsession and worship over size and potency and symbols thereof at the expense of literally everything else. Gender essentialism is a special kind of poison.
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Mar 23, 2021 14:06
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I think it's kind of an occupational hazard with the rockstar reporter persona; he reported on things no one else was because the establishment didn't want people to hear about it, because that's what gets you attention, having someone no one else has from a platform that actually has credibility. Unfortunately that's both an addictive thing and a limited one, there's only so many big scoops to be had... unless you get sucked into the right ring propaganda machine, which is made to present the appearance of doing that on a daily basis. An array of righteous causes and colourful supervillains all with bombastic presentation and shifting just enough to keep your interest, with something for every strain of brainworms.
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Mar 24, 2021 16:40
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tom kite posted:Lol I just remembered biden also denied supporting the iraq war There's a thing with a lot of older and stupid politicians that they haven't really internalised that the internet is a thing. That literally everything they do and say that's captured on camera is available to the entire world at a moment's notice. They still think they can lie freely about what they do and don't support and what they have and haven't said and done, and by the time the fact-checkers catch them out no one will care.
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Mar 25, 2021 08:24
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Sodomy Hussein posted:This thread has been one heck of a honeypot. Attracting brokebrains in D&D isn't exactly a feat.
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Mar 25, 2021 17:44
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letthereberock posted:I get that, it just feels like white-male writers and media figures turning out to be terrible is becoming a really common thing. I don’t even like citing things anymore because I have this irrational fear that I’ll refer to some article for stats on indoor smoking bans or some poo poo only to immediately be hit with “oh you think a guy who says trans people should be put in camps should be a trusted resource for anything!?” Just assume it's an inevitability sooner or later and get ready to go 'ah poo poo, my bad, let me look for something else'.
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Mar 26, 2021 14:14
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Beelzebufo posted:I think a lot of these dudes were just the same type of predatory opportunists that infect other leftists movements. They like the acclaim and respect they earn by being the leader of the revolution or w/e, but as soon as the focus shifts beyond them or their comfort zones, they react angrily. Something similar probably goes the same way with would-be progressive women, hence the whole white feminist-to-TERF pipeline. (and both at once with Male Feminists, see the Sinfest guy)
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Mar 29, 2021 07:56
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In retrospect, Hillary Clinton platforming Jack Thompson may have been an early warning sign of her actually being an idiot. The whole violence/tits in video games moral crusades always have been a magnet for the grifters and unhinged outrage peddlers going after the softest possible targets. What you might call the Handmaid's Tale alliance of white feminists and religious right, before the latter completely gave up the pretence. (outside a few particularly out of touch old fucks in Australia) Panzeh posted:I think freedom of speech arguments are much more interesting when broken down into more specific, coherent principles like "we need to have a wider space for discussing tactics" or "we need iconoclasts" rather than "everyone should have the right to speak everywhere whenever whatever", the sort of vague libertarian-ish arguments go nowhere because the libertarian uses this formulation to avoid taking any real stances one way or the other. And it's not like it actually matters anyway. The left is targeted on catch-22s meant to discredit them no matter who they are (even if they have to make up poo poo like 'bro-adjacent') and the right and centre just completely ignore it.
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Mar 30, 2021 05:01
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Fishhook theory continues to deliver. Though as said, terminal contrarians tend to end up aligned with fascists sooner or later just because fascists most openly don't give a poo poo about making any sense at all beyond owning the libs. vvv: see above. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Mar 31, 2021 12:53
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The whole point of the 'They're taking it too far!' discourse is that one can swing between a supposed ally of LBGTQ+ people and horribly regressive rhetoric because 'too far' is a personal and ambiguous definition.
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Mar 31, 2021 14:09
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At best, he's being dangerously, uselessly flippant and stupid. Vulnerable people need and deserve consistent allies and unconditional recognition.
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